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Lostie! 18-01-2017 11:24 PM

I don't even think she is nasty, more hot-headed. She definitely goes OTT when angry when it would be better to walk away but she's usually responding to some sort of provocation. Even tonight people are suggesting it came out of nowhere but that's just not true, first it was because there had been a row about her and nobody was telling her what actually happened and later she flipped after Bianca decided to make a little comment.

She definitely has problems with anger (and her inability to rise above stuff) but I don't see actual malice and mean-spiritededness in her (unlike someone like Nicola who is less outwardly aggressive but more subtly spiteful).

There's sense to a lot of what she says but the way she puts it across doesn't really make people inclined to sympathise.

Stormy 18-01-2017 11:47 PM

I think she is hypocritical and very rude.

She insults anyone who butts into her conversation, but then she's always butting in to other conversations with her unwanted opinions and/or insults.

She accuses the girls of being 'gang-handed' when they defend each other, but she's ok to have a go at James for daring to wake up Jedward (who didn't even mind being woken up). In fact she wasn't even in the room, she purposely followed Jedward out to the kitchen to defend them. She went looking for trouble.

Today, after I saw her just let Spencer get away with antagonizing her, she proved herself even more vile. There is no doubt to me that she is a bully who picks on the weak.

She walked away from Spencer twice...yet if Chloe or one of the girls just look at her wrong, she's loses her mind. This is the sign of a massive bully. They attack the weak and run away from the strong.

Pathetic.

Look at James C. He is a hundred times more mature and intelligent than any one of them in that house, yet he is respectful and dignified. He garners nothing but admiration and respect from all of the house. Kim should learn from him.

wendywillow 19-01-2017 07:50 AM

"you're horrible horrible vile disgusting woman"
"what did I say?"

Kazanne 19-01-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 9161271)
I don't even think she is nasty, more hot-headed. She definitely goes OTT when angry when it would be better to walk away but she's usually responding to some sort of provocation. Even tonight people are suggesting it came out of nowhere but that's just not true, first it was because there had been a row about her and nobody was telling her what actually happened and later she flipped after Bianca decided to make a little comment.

She definitely has problems with anger (and her inability to rise above stuff) but I don't see actual malice and mean-spiritededness in her (unlike someone like Nicola who is less outwardly aggressive but more subtly spiteful).

There's sense to a lot of what she says but the way she puts it across doesn't really make people inclined to sympathise.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

y.winter 19-01-2017 08:44 AM

She's terrible with anger management and putting things in perspective. She lashes out at people for just breathing and scolds them for being "nasty little bitch", which is quite a paradox saying it while you swear and verbally attack (which I often find more nasty and offensive then the thing that "triggered" it at first).

Yes, on paper she has loads of one liners, but I don't find it amusing to watch. It's rude and out of order. She gets away with it for being a 74 years old woman.

sampvt 19-01-2017 09:14 AM

Its been suggested before but early onset dementia seems to be the problem here. She hears but does not listen to anyone. Usual traits for dementia.

user104658 19-01-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 9161666)
Its been suggested before but early onset dementia seems to be the problem here. She hears but does not listen to anyone. Usual traits for dementia.

I've now just finished the episode and the last few minutes have me utterly convinced of this tbh. From when she's trying to get past the security woman, saying "excuse me" (I don't think in that moment she realised it was security there for her) and then the whole bit where they're walking up the stairs ("Oh luvvie :( " "These people" "they're making my life hell"). It looks EXACTLY like dementia. I think they need to remove her, ASAP, not for the affect on the show but for her own health and because frankly it's so exploitative that it's just straight up repulsive.

jaxie 19-01-2017 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 9161271)
I don't even think she is nasty, more hot-headed. She definitely goes OTT when angry when it would be better to walk away but she's usually responding to some sort of provocation. Even tonight people are suggesting it came out of nowhere but that's just not true, first it was because there had been a row about her and nobody was telling her what actually happened and later she flipped after Bianca decided to make a little comment.

She definitely has problems with anger (and her inability to rise above stuff) but I don't see actual malice and mean-spiritededness in her (unlike someone like Nicola who is less outwardly aggressive but more subtly spiteful).

There's sense to a lot of what she says but the way she puts it across doesn't really make people inclined to sympathise.

I think that's a pretty fair assessment really. I think she is getting a lot of provocation.

jaxie 19-01-2017 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9161678)
I've now just finished the episode and the last few minutes have me utterly convinced of this tbh. From when she's trying to get past the security woman, saying "excuse me" (I don't think in that moment she realised it was security there for her) and then the whole bit where they're walking up the stairs ("Oh luvvie :( " "These people" "they're making my life hell"). It looks EXACTLY like dementia. I think they need to remove her, ASAP, not for the affect on the show but for her own health and because frankly it's so exploitative that it's just straight up repulsive.

I think you are confusing her being a bit drunk for dementia tbh.
Being drunk also makes you a little confused or vague and she was definitely slurring her words a little.

Liam- 19-01-2017 09:39 AM

She's ruining the show, before she went in it was fun and unpredictable what would happen, but now I tune in wondering who Kim is going to argue with next, she's a spiteful, vindictive woman and the sooner she goes, the better.

user104658 19-01-2017 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9161694)
I think you are confusing her being a bit drunk for dementia tbh.
Being drunk also makes you a little confused or vague and she was definitely slurring her words a little.

She's been like this since she went in, though.

jaxie 19-01-2017 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9161703)
She's been like this since she went in, though.

Of course it's her plan. But the Alcohol makes her erratic. She doesn't come over as having dementia to me she has too much awareness and clarity. My grandmother had dementia and I'm just not seeing it. People with dementia are more confused and they imagine things. Kim knows exactly what is going on. In the very early stages my grandmother would do things like trying to boil the electric kettle on the gas stove. There is a lot of short term forgetfulness.

jet 19-01-2017 10:33 AM

I wonder how her interviews with Emma and Rylan will go...

Emma: You were a brilliant HM Kim!
Kim: Don't start on me, you little bitch!!!

Rylan: You were a force to be reckoned with in there Kim
Kim: I'll not take a lecture on how I've got to behave in that house, you chicken livered chinless wonder!!!

Vicky. 19-01-2017 11:52 AM

She is coming across quite horrible.

I think shes a great housemate though

Vanessa 19-01-2017 11:53 AM

She makes me laugh :joker:

Crimson Dynamo 19-01-2017 11:57 AM

People need to joke around with her and not take her seriously - she just wants to feel included

muchadoaboutnothing 19-01-2017 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 9161699)
She's ruining the show, before she went in it was fun and unpredictable what would happen, but now I tune in wondering who Kim is going to argue with next, she's a spiteful, vindictive woman and the sooner she goes, the better.

All the more reason to keep her in.

Robodog 19-01-2017 12:45 PM

Kim's Logic:

Everyone is a coward

But if they DO say anything - they all get called a gang of bullies


In Kim's world - you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't - you cannot win !

She must be very unhappy inside to project such impossible and hard terms on everyone around her

Seems like everyone is wrong - except Kim

Liam- 19-01-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 9161970)
Kim's Logic:

Everyone is a coward

But if they DO say anything - they all get called a gang of bullies


In Kim's world - you are damned if you do, and damned if you don't - you cannot win !

She must be very unhappy inside to project such impossible and hard terms on everyone around her

Seems like everyone is wrong - except Kim

:clap1:

Glenn. 19-01-2017 12:50 PM

She's a queen

ebandit 19-01-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9161911)
she just wants to feel included

poor lass..........is just misunderstood..................

Mark L

Nancy. 19-01-2017 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 9161699)
She's ruining the show, before she went in it was fun and unpredictable what would happen, but now I tune in wondering who Kim is going to argue with next, she's a spiteful, vindictive woman and the sooner she goes, the better.

Sounds exactly like Nicole.


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