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Niamh. 10-05-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9301261)
Well it is usually religious reasons, so logic has already left the building... :omgno:

Yeah but is there even religious reasons not to be organ donors in most religions? Like I was brought up a Catholic and I never heard of it being against gods wishes to donate an organ :laugh:

Kizzy 10-05-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9301251)
You would still have a choice though, you could choose to opt out

That is not a choice.... You choose to do things or not, it shouldn't be presumed by a lack of action that you are complicit.

And should the system fail, will it be presumed you opted in or out?

Niamh. 10-05-2017 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301275)
That is not a choice.... You choose to do things or not, it shouldn't be presumed by a lack of action that you are complicit.

And should the system fail, will it be presumed you opted in or out?

It is a choice though, it's the same choice as now except the new way saves more peoples lives.

Re the BIB, I have no idea and honestly I couldn't care less. I'm sure a family member could decide if that were the case. And if you have none? well you're never going to know either way anyway because you're dead

Kizzy 10-05-2017 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9301277)
It is a choice though, it's the same choice as now except the new way saves more peoples lives.

It's not the same choice as now... If you opt in it is purely your decision, by having to opt out if you don't act then you are presumed complicit whether or not you were.

To have a organ ready for transplant it has to be harvested and prepped asap, one worry would be that you would be being prepped for organ removal before you yourself were dead, if you were not sufficiently viable. :/

Niamh. 10-05-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301282)
It's not the same choice as now... If you opt in it is purely your decision, by having to opt out if you don't act then you are presumed complicit whether or not you were.

To have a organ ready for transplant it has to be harvested and prepped asap, one worry would be that you would be being prepped for organ removal before you yourself were dead, if you were not sufficiently viable. :/

So what? It makes more sense this way because this way it saves more lives

I have nothing to say on your second paragraph because I have zero knowledge on that

Kizzy 10-05-2017 04:17 PM

How about applying the question to official documents instead, say your tax or nat ins ones? I'd say that was a better way.

Nothing is certain, except death...and taxes :)

user104658 10-05-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301305)
How about applying the question to official documents instead, say your tax or nat ins ones? I'd say that was a better way.

Nothing is certain, except death...and taxes :)

Can't say I've ever filled in anything about tax or NI, though. You only really do those documents if self-employed, otherwise it's all PAYE and you never see any of it (other than on your payslip).

Scarlett. 10-05-2017 04:33 PM

Honestly, I like the idea that when I die, I could be saving another persons life, it's comforting. I don't need my organs when I die.

Kizzy 10-05-2017 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9301319)
Can't say I've ever filled in anything about tax or NI, though. You only really do those documents if self-employed, otherwise it's all PAYE and you never see any of it (other than on your payslip).

Council tax?...

Niamh. 10-05-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301305)
How about applying the question to official documents instead, say your tax or nat ins ones? I'd say that was a better way.

Nothing is certain, except death...and taxes :)

As far as I'm aware I cant opt out of taxes . . . Unfortunately [emoji23]

jaxie 10-05-2017 06:05 PM

I think it's a great idea and the way all countries should approach the issue. Asking people to carry a donor card is like asking people to consider their own death and not many people want to think about that.

user104658 10-05-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9301331)
Council tax?...

I've never filled in a form for that either, they just plonk a big fat bill on the mat :joker:

user104658 10-05-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9301368)
As far as I'm aware I cant opt out of taxes . . . Unfortunately [emoji23]

Naw, you need to be into double digit millions before you can do that :joker:

Niamh. 10-05-2017 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9301382)
Naw, you need to be into double digit millions before you can do that :joker:

Aint that the truth


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