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jaxie 20-05-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9311004)
I am aware what balanced means.... That is specifically my point however, that our media has been shown say the BBC for instance to be particularly unbalanced in favour of the tories since he call for an election.

The media has a duty to print facts, they can misrepresent, spin and present information in different ways... but they cannot lie.

Explain how claiming most voters are uninformed is a balanced argument of anything?

jaxie 20-05-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9311009)
Nothing but personal remarks and indignation. I won't rise to your bait.

I've stated the reasons qualifying my opinion, if you actually want a discussion then I suggest you try to form a counter argument to them otherwise give up if you haven't got anything else to add to the topic aside from trying to take it off topic because you dislike the opinions within it.

I won't respond to any more of your posts on the subject unless you are actually interested in discussing it.

You really are amusing when you deflect. :shrug: How is saying most voters are uninformed a balanced argument of anything? You've given no reasons at all. See the highlight, that's deflecting. It's fine if you can't respond.

jaxie 20-05-2017 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9311007)
'the person' ( from your quote)

You cannot personify the media.

What a strange and completely off subject thing to come up with. So someone reporting for the media is not a person? :think:

Tom4784 20-05-2017 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9311013)
You really are amusing when you deflect. :shrug: How is saying most voters are uninformed a balanced argument of anything?

I'll ignore the hypocritical insult.

As for your question. I'm not a media product. Kizzy was speaking about the lack of balance in the media, not individual people. She told you this and you responded to the post so I don't really understand why you're still confused on the matter.

My opinions is that the vast majority of voters ARE uninformed and (like I said before but you ignored in favour of the 'I AM OFFENDED' tactic) the reasons why I believe that is because the dominant tactics in almost all of the recent elections are shallow and ultimately uninformative. Theresa May has been saying 'Strong and Stable' at every chance she's given because people respond to it in spite the fact that you don't need to look hard to see that her administration is anything but. They've demonised Jeremy Corbyn to the point that the uninformed believes him to be some sort of terrorist traitor because people don't bother to fact check. Tell the voting public what they want to hear and they will respond regardless of the facts. The same can be said for the previous two elections, the referendum, every US election ever and more.

Policies and hard facts aren't sexy. The public in general don't respond to anything that isn't a buzzword, headline or soundbite.

jaxie 20-05-2017 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9311029)
I'll ignore the hypocritical insult.

As for your question. I'm not a media product. Kizzy was speaking about the lack of balance in the media, not individual people. She told you this and you responded to the post so I don't really understand why you're still confused on the matter.

My opinions is that the vast majority of voters ARE uninformed and (like I said before but you ignored in favour of the 'I AM OFFENDED' tactic) the reasons why I believe that is because the dominant tactics in almost all of the recent elections are shallow and ultimately uninformative. Theresa May has been saying 'Strong and Stable' at every chance she's given because people respond to it in spite the fact that you don't need to look hard to see that her administration is anything but. They've demonised Jeremy Corbyn to the point that the uninformed believes him to be some sort of terrorist traitor because people don't bother to fact check. Tell the voting public what they want to hear and they will respond regardless of the facts. The same can be said for the previous two elections, the referendum, every US election ever and more.

Policies and hard facts aren't sexy. The public in general don't respond to anything that isn't a buzzword, headline or soundbite.

Except you didn't ignore what you call a hypocritical insult (pot, kettle), you keep on replying. :shrug:

Tom4784 20-05-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9311037)
Except you didn't ignore what you call a hypocritical insult (pot, kettle), you keep on replying. :shrug:

I'll take the fact you ignored the answer to the question you asked as a white flag on your part. You are not interested in discussing anything.

Kizzy 20-05-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9311022)
What a strange and completely off subject thing to come up with. So someone reporting for the media is not a person? :think:

In essence no, not when they are representing their publication.

jaxie 20-05-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9311040)
In essence no, not when they are representing their publication.

I'll have to tell my friend who works in journalism she's not a person at work, not sure what she will make of that. :shrug:

jaxie 20-05-2017 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9311039)
I'll take the fact you ignored the answer to the question you asked as a white flag on your part. You are not interested in discussing anything.

You really can take what you like as what you like. I'd love to discuss anything with you, Dezzy, anytime when you aren't making wild statements with no substance then defensively berating me for pointing it out.

I don't really have a whole day to waste though and I'm hungry. :wavey:

Kizzy 20-05-2017 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9311045)
I'll have to tell my friend who works in journalism she's not a person at work, not sure what she will make of that. :shrug:

You're twisting again.

My point of course was whatever her personal opinions they are not always the ones expressed during your journalistic reporting.

Tom4784 20-05-2017 12:47 PM

It's the same in any work place, while working you represent your company.


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