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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9316602)

It's absolutely horrible. A terrible way to die. How do you forget a baby? Surely you would see her when you got out of the car, when you locked it?

He clearly didnt though, alot of times I'm almost to the door of work before I hit the lock button on my key

There was a case like this a couple of years ago, then it turned out the guy did it on purpose though :(

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9316629)

There was a case like this a couple of years ago, then it turned out the guy did it on purpose though :(

Jesus :/

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9316310)

There are cases like this every year where people leave their children in the car. I think if you have a normal morning routine - like driving straight to work you go on auto pilot especially if the baby was quiet and sleeping.

Absolutely heartbreaking, the guy will never get over it but just awful for the baby.

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9316312)

Yeah, those were my thoughts as well. I've often drove the wrong way on my days off from working because my body and mind are so used to going a particular direction

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9316472)

It happens, tragically, not all that uncommonly and is a well known psychological phenomenon. Basically it does involve having a heavily ingrained autopilot routine and then deviating from that routine (like being supposed to drop someone off) and then usually a distraction of some kind... People then just default to their usual routine.

It actually happens to me the other way around quite a lot. Youngest has only recently started doing two full days at nursery, she used to only do afternoons, so I'm used to her being around in the morning. A couple of times I've had a couple of seconds of panic when it's really quiet and I can't find her before I remember she's out. And once I was doing the garden and left the front door lying open (clearly knew she was at nursery when I actually left it open), went upstairs for a while, came backs down and saw the door lying open and totally crapped myself for a minute thinking she would be out on the road :umm2:.

The brain works in strange ways. It's more based on routines and patterns than people realise... You spend more than half of your life not actually thinking about what you're doing at any one time.

Yeah, your mind gets into patterns of doing things if you repeat them over-and-over. I've noticed this a bit with me recently.

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9316644)

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...in+ross+harris

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7458216.html

God thats horrific.

What a tragic story. This is so awful for both the baby and the dad.

I left my dog down at the horse yard one day and didn't remember I'd left him until I got a phone call from the stables saying, "the last we saw of your dog was him legging it up the road behind your car. Did he catch up with you?"

By the time I found him, he had crossed a busy dual carriageway and run along a very busy highway. Fortunately he was okay but I never worked out why I forgot him that day. I was obviously distracted in some way.

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9316357)

I don't know how anyone could even go on after that happening, it's horrific enough to have to deal with losing a child but knowing it was your fault on top of it would be too much

Well it's not really something I would like to find out, but in all honesty stuff like that is hard to predict as people handle tragic moments in different ways, some carry the grief for the rest of their lives, and others do decide what I think you was implying and just can't take it anymore and end it because they can't cope with losing the child.

Hopefully this guy will be able to go on.

I have mixed feelings really, I understand it was a mistake and the guy will be devestated it's unimagineable. Then again you can't blame anyone but him - it was his duty of care to make sure the baby got to the care givers.

I feel it's cruel to attack him like I am sure other places will but imo he'll feel incredibly bad already no need to add to his suffering. Let the court decide idk

It was neglect, lots of people have routines and lots to do and remember every day.

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9316786)

It was neglect, lots of people have routines and lots to do and remember every day.

The point is that it happens when it's NOT part of the usual routine, though. If the person involved has genuinely no idea that they're leaving a child in a car then it's not neglect... neglect is conscious. For example, leaving a child somewhere believing that "they'll be fine" without considering the danger, or simply not giving a ****. That's not the case here.

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9317050)

Yes... And my point is many have routines and they still remember to do things.

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9317064)

Yes... And my point is many have routines and they still remember to do things.

As I'm sure this man does 99.99% of the time. It's is a freak psychological occurrence but it happens to everyone. Absolutely everyone, to some degree. The only difference is that usually when it happens it's something minor that doesn't end in tragedy... Like accidentally putting your keys in the fridge and then having no idea what you've done with them. Or a customer of mine - drives into town every day, Parks in the same place - on a nice day decided to walk in, then an hour later he was in a panic convinced that his car had been stolen... when he hadn't brought it in the first place.