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Crimson Dynamo 09-06-2017 06:05 PM

The bare acts are that Scotland has better politicians at the moment


more credible, more truthful and more dedicated to the job in hand

they are also seen as so by the people unlike that shower in England who nobody likes or trusts

user104658 09-06-2017 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9347451)
The bare acts are that Scotland has better politicians at the moment


more credible, more truthful and more dedicated to the job in hand

they are also seen as so by the people unlike that shower in England who nobody likes or trusts

I will agree to be fair, the Scottish Conservatives simply ran a much better campaign than May. Yes there was a heavy focus on Indy issues but also, a generally more positive and progressive message in their campaign material, almost totally at odds with May's "Austerity and terror!" material. Of course it might just be flashing lights and empty promises but whatever it is, it seems to have been more effective.

user104658 09-06-2017 06:26 PM

To add to that, I would also suggest a reason; politics simply works better on a smaller scale focussing on local issues. There's a very strong argument for devolution of regions across England, in my opinion, with London handling only the major issues.

Crimson Dynamo 09-06-2017 06:37 PM

The SNP are the only people who have been round my house in 15 years. They have a regular stall in the village square once a month (in all weathers). I have actually met my MP in town, they sent me 3 personal letters in an envelope in the last 8 weeks.

They have signs and banners in fields all around the valley. They make an effeort to earn the vote around here and people respond, forget if they are left or right, they make an effort.

If i was to say who was next it would be conservatives. Yes I know parties target seats but it is worth noting that hard work will get you votes.

user104658 09-06-2017 06:42 PM

I'm sure I said on another thread... Or maybe this one... Labour are currently invisible in Scotland. The unionist vote was always going to mainly go Tory because the Labour candidates were just sitting on their hands.

Jack_ 09-06-2017 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 9347046)
Eh? How do you work that one out? Even if every seat in Scotland went to labour in 2015, the tories still would have had a majority.

I get what you are saying about this election though, but keep in mind less than a quarter of Scotland's MPs are tories, in England more than half are tories.

Okay that's a fair point, but at least Labour wouldn't have been in as weaker position as they were this election. Don't worry, I hate the English more than the Scots.

It's just annoying that if the 9 seats the SNP lost to the Tories had stayed yellow, the latter would only be on 309. The 44 seats the SNP then had, combined with Labour's 261, the LD's 12, Plaid's 5 and the Green's 1, would've been enough to vote down a Tory minority government, and hopefully pass a Labour Queen's Speech.

But I lay the blame for this as Scottish Labour's piss poor campaign. Much like many others, Dugdale should've got behind Corbyn.

Alf 09-06-2017 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 9347508)
Okay that's a fair point, but at least Labour wouldn't have been in as weaker position as they were this election. Don't worry, I hate the English more than the Scots.

It's just annoying that if the 9 seats the SNP lost to the Tories had stayed yellow, the latter would only be on 309. The 44 seats the SNP then had, combined with Labour's 261, the LD's 12, Plaid's 5 and the Green's 1, would've been enough to vote down a Tory minority government, and hopefully pass a Labour Queen's Speech.

But I lay the blame for this as Scottish Labour's piss poor campaign. Much like many others, Dugdale should've got behind Corbyn.

Does that mean you hate the Scots or not? I can't tell.

Jack_ 09-06-2017 07:03 PM

Well I didn't, but now they've elected some Tories :whistle:

Nah

Crimson Dynamo 09-06-2017 07:09 PM

have you seen the "head" of labour in Scotland?

without being nasty

No one takes her seriously, not least wee Burnie

http://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/5660234/


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