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Garfie 20-07-2017 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469140)
He had Simone one minute telling him Andrew was a money-grabber, but put that to one side. Then Andrew takes all the money and proves Simone right. You can't blame Raph for being annoyed.

In Raph's head though I think he was more upset about Andrew evicting Sam (as the other second-chance housemate) because it defeated the purpose of BB (public decides).
Simone didn't say he was a money grabber - she said he needed the money as he didn't have a 'pot to piss in'. I think Andrew was more upset about her revealing his personal circumstances than anything else. I don't believe he is a money grabber for taking an opportunity that arose- if he is in financial difficulty, he'd be silly not to take it.

If Raph is upset about Andrew evicting Sam, his gripe should be with BB rather than Andrew who enabled housemates rather than the public to evict.

I wonder what Raph would have done had he'd have had the opportunity? He was quick enough to press the button when they were earning the money in their teams and he knew then that they were accumulating prize money.

Beso 20-07-2017 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9468642)
Simone was right about Andrew. There's nothing wrong in taking the money. But after he made such a fuss about not being there for the money he looks like a bit of a hypocrite.:shrug:
He pressed the button to keep himself in the house, fearing whoever pressed it would evict him.

joeysteele 20-07-2017 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jet (Post 9469320)
I just wish BB would stop messing around with the prize money. The full amount of money should go to the winner, end of story imo.
I agree totally and for me it was even more stupid,when all could and should have been from near the start,to bring 4 more housemates in, so late on.
Then also have them able between the four of them to win 15k but not the series at all.
To then also have them included in any prize fund related tasks.

Just plain bonkers in my view.

Kazanne 20-07-2017 07:13 AM
Raph is a walking contradiction , that's for sure.

Garfie 20-07-2017 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9469507)
I agree totally and for me it was even more stupid,when all could and should have been from near the start,to bring 4 more housemates in, so late on.
Then also have them able between the four of them to win 15k but not the series at all.
To then also have them included in any prize fund related tasks.

Just plain bonkers in my view.
Although I don't blame Andrew for taking the money, you're right that the new housemates shouldn't have been included in a task which involved the prize fund when they have only been there for such a short time.

Macie Lightfoot 20-07-2017 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RhysJones (Post 9469394)
Then Raph immediately shouted at him, 'but she's not here for the money' which she clearly is. And there's nothing wrong with that unless you're Raph, who has a massive problem with people who are in there for the money
omg this low-key INFURIATED me bc Joe was just applauding the fact that Deborah wants to use the money to help her family and Raph turned it into some ****ing bull**** nonsense about whether you're here For The Money or For The Experience.

azi 20-07-2017 07:27 AM
His rant was so bizarre!
Andrew kinda won. He makes the final and has 30k. Raph saying he might look bad makes no sense because Andrew is done... he doesn't need the public to like him.

joeysteele 20-07-2017 07:31 AM
Most housemates on BB are walking contradictions but Raph has always maintained he is there for the experience.
It's others who indicated they weren't there for the money such as andrew throwing a tantrum at Simone for inferring he was and needed it.
Then being the one to press for it.

Fine he got it and that's good for him but there's a massive contradiction ignored again only to get at Raph.
Unbelievable.

Vanessa 20-07-2017 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by azi (Post 9469559)
His rant was so bizarre!
Andrew kinda won. He makes the final and has 30k. Raph saying he might look bad makes no sense because Andrew is done... he doesn't need the public to like him.
They didn't agree on taking the money, but they're still friends.

Vanessa 20-07-2017 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 9469570)
Most housemates on BB are walking contradictions but Raph has always maintained he is there for the experience.
It's others who indicated they weren't there for the money such as andrew throwing a tantrum at Simone for inferring he was and needed it.
Then being the one to press for it.

Fine he got it and that's good for him but there's a massive contradiction ignored again only to get at Raph.
Unbelievable.
They just didn't agree on that issue. But they're still on friendly terms and that's very mature on both parts

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9468528)
He came across as very bitter and sanctimonious in the diary room imo
Oh yes he did and all thats STUPID hand slapping :rant: Grow up little boy.... I think he's jealous of anyone getting camera time

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 9468682)
None of them like to admit they are there for the money.
The difference between Raph and Andrew is that Andrew cannot win the ultimate game. Sam could have kicked him out on Friday empty handed..but Sam was too thick.
Andrew did the right thing.
If Hannah had won he wouldn't have said that about her...Deborah has said previously she would take the money if she had the chance as she had had the experience but had to think of her family...he never dissed her for it.
He would have gained more respect for being happy for Andrew. He just showed himself as being bitter and jealous. Had Raph been the 2nd chance housemate he would have done exactly the same thing.
Andrew didn't like Simone exposing his private financial position by saying he 'hadn't got a pot to piss in'...
Just enjoy the 'experience' Raph and don't put people down for having different agendas. Most people are there to win the money..nothing wrong with that.
:clap1:

joeysteele 20-07-2017 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9469574)
They just didn't agree on that issue. But they're still on friendly terms and that's very mature on both parts
Absolutely right.

Beso 20-07-2017 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 9469165)
They're still friends. So no jealousy whatsoever.
Some friend that...

Ripping him to bits in the diary room, shunning him infront of everyone...talking to everyone about him....believing a stranger over a mate........


Wow, you value your friendships not slaughter your friend..

Underscore 20-07-2017 08:14 AM
Innit

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 08:56 AM
What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9469640)
Some friend that...

Ripping him to bits in the diary room, shunning him infront of everyone...talking to everyone about him....believing a stranger over a mate........


Wow, you value your friendships not slaughter your friend..

He has been a good friend, he didn't judge Andrew based on what Simone initially told him. It's only Andrew taking the second-chance money that made Raph question whether Simone was correct.

At least he's bloody got an opinion, the rest seem to just sit on their hands and coast along.

Beso 20-07-2017 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469722)
What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.

How was it weak?..took a lot of nerve to do that then evict someone face to face as well.

What i would class as weak and obvious is raph picking his clique for any task reward he has recieved this series


Wouldnt you say that is more weak and obvious?

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469722)
What he said was bang on the money, evicting Sam to get the extra cash was weak - obvious and weak.

- Would I myself have done what Andrew had, absolutely. Would I have evicted Sam to get the extra money, damn yes.

But then I can say that as a viewer because I haven't spent 8 weeks with those people.
Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469730)
He has been a good friend, he didn't judge Andrew based on what Simone initially told him. It's only Andrew taking the second-chance money that made Raph question whether Simone was correct.

At least he's bloody got an opinion, the rest seem to just sit on their hands and coast along.
Why didn't he say it to Andrews face then instead of in the diary room ?

Paula D 20-07-2017 09:03 AM
I normally can't stand Raph but he's right on this one.

It's the fact that Andrew kicked up such a **** storm when Simone said he was there for the money that would piss me off. He should have owned it.

He had his hand on the buzzer before BB was finished speaking ffs.

Beso 20-07-2017 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9469733)
Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS
Spot on.

Anyone there for the experience would want that experience to carry on.....if that means taking some cash and evicting someone for your time to carry on then so be it....being fake and talking **** in the diary room about someone who just did what you woulld have done is stupid...hes not as clever as he thinks.

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9469733)
Raph in the same situation would have done exactly what Andrew did, he's just trying to appear to be the bigger person,but its all a load of BS
Not a chance chuff. Raph isn't bothered about the money.

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9469736)
Why didn't he say it to Andrews face then instead of in the diary room ?
He may do yet. BB probably asked him his opinion on it.

Don't forget Raph did confront him on the Charlotte/Andrew bitching the other day.

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Paula D (Post 9469742)
I normally can't stand Raph but he's right on this one.

It's the fact that Andrew kicked up such a **** storm when Simone said he was there for the money that would piss me off. He should have owned it.

He had his hand on the buzzer before BB was finished speaking ffs.
They had obviously discussed it in the hotel before coming in, I don't know why Andrew made a big song and dance over it.

Simone was made to look like a liar when she was spot on.

Beso 20-07-2017 09:07 AM
He may not be bothered about the money..but like andrew he is there for the experience...so he would have pressed it ao he could carry on that experience..just like andrew did.

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469747)
Not a chance chuff. Raph isn't bothered about the money.



He may do yet. BB probably asked him his opinion on it.

Don't forget Raph did confront him on the Charlotte/Andrew bitching the other day.
Why would they ask him ?

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9469756)
Why would they ask him ?
Because Raph believed he would be evicted (he told Andrew that.) BB probably called most of them in to discuss it.


Believe me I'm not frowning on Andrew taking the money, I myself would. It's just different strokes, isn't it...

Beso 20-07-2017 09:10 AM
Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...

Underscore 20-07-2017 09:10 AM
Innit

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9469767)
Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...
:clap1:

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9469767)
Hey littlegreen.


Do you think raph picking his clique for any task reward he was given was weak and obvious?...
It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?

Beso 20-07-2017 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469778)
It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?
Correct it is not the same..andrews move took stregnth and guts..raphs decisions were weak and predictable.

chuff me dizzy 20-07-2017 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469778)
It would be obvious, but it's not the same as knocking out your only competitor for cash. Andrew already had the money from the steal. He just wanted MORE.


I think he's only had a reward/party for his birthday, anyway?
You've already said you would have done the same as Andrew and if he was being honest Raph would have done it too,he's not said a word to Hannah how also pressed the buzzer and was so desperate she pressed before time

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9469789)
You've already said you would have done the same as Andrew and if he was being honest Raph would have done it too,he's not said a word to Hannah how also pressed the buzzer and was so desperate she pressed before time
The buzzer money isn't his issue, he's calling the money made from Andrew evicting Sam "tainted" which it is. Because it wasn't earned through the public deciding that he should be the last remaining second-chance housemate.

Raph wasn't calling the buzzer press "weak", the decision to knock out Sam was. (Marcus even said that in the intro)

- which I think everybody on here said yesterday was a predictable decision and in other words weak.

sampvt 20-07-2017 09:23 AM
Our little no hope raph is going home to a 5 min interview and a bus ride home. No fanfare. No bots. No adoration. Just back to his little laptop and sad life and hopefully me in his ear if he dares to come back here after letting the forum down.

Littlegreen 20-07-2017 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9469787)
Correct it is not the same..andrews move took stregnth and guts..raphs decisions were weak and predictable.
But your comparing a treat to a task, to a housemate easily evicting another for money.

Beso 20-07-2017 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Littlegreen (Post 9469817)
But your comparing a treat to a task, to a housemate easily evicting another for money.
What did you want to happen?

Did you expect andrew to just let someone else press it so he could be evicted penniless?..

All he did was man up and press the button so his experience could last longer...just like raphs reasoning would have been the same.

For raph to rip him to bits saying he was weak and obvious is very hypocritical as his decisions when he has had a choice have all been obvious and weak.

Not that i expected anything else because raphs so butt hurt another more facinating, likeable and popular gay has entered his village.


Raging at joe about money and how it shouldnt be about money yet brings it up to slag someone off.pathetic

TaylorCallum 20-07-2017 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 9469811)
Our little no hope raph is going home to a 5 min interview and a bus ride home. No fanfare. No bots. No adoration. Just back to his little laptop and sad life and hopefully me in his ear if he dares to come back here after letting the forum down.
He's going home to graduate University, his high-paying job in London and having experienced an opportunity of a lifetime that he's wanted for years. Not to mention the support he's received both on here and in various forms of social media. Somehow I doubt he's going to be shaking at the thought of Sampvt on TiBB's negative opinion of him :fan:.

joeysteele 20-07-2017 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TaylorCallum (Post 9470127)
He's going home to graduate University, his high-paying job in London and having experienced an opportunity of a lifetime that he's wanted for years. Not to mention the support he's received both on here and in various forms of social media. I'm sure he'll be fine :flutter:.
Excellent post and due response too.

He will be fine,he's been in BB, and has a great life near set up already by him.

Really though, a brilliant response from you here.

Vanessa 20-07-2017 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TaylorCallum (Post 9470127)
He's going home to graduate University, his high-paying job in London and having experienced an opportunity of a lifetime that he's wanted for years. Not to mention the support he's received both on here and in various forms of social media. Somehow I doubt he's going to be shaking at the thought of Sampvt on TiBB's negative opinion of him :fan:.
:clap1:


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