I hope it is Alex from Fear crossing over to TWD, she was so underused in Fear and Michelle is a really good actress

Watch it be Morales appearing in FTWD. I highly doubt they'd do a character from FTWD going onto TWD because well... that just spoils that that person would survive all of FTWD (unless they quit FTWD and swap to TWD once and for all?)

I would LOVE Alex to appear on TWD permanently though. They'd probably have to force her back into FTWD given the current setting, but I can really see Alex being a member of Oceanside!

Oh I didn't even see this. Queen of amazing opinions? :clap1:

FTWD has deservedly weak ratings so it will probably be a character from TWD appearing in that in an attempt to gain more interest in the show. Probably end up just being someone pretty minor though.

Is there anyone from TWD who could possible have been around them?

Alex washing up on Oceanside could work

Great minds etc :love:

The actress said she was told she was going to be in it for at least 8 seasons

huh what's wrong with the title :conf:

Yes well I think we can more or less blame the actress for the huge shift for that character tbh... Andrea is meant to be a really big main character, and was clearly originally intended to follow the comics version, but unfortunately... the portrayal of Andrea in the show was really, really ****ing irritating and she pretty much had to go. :think:. With another actress portraying a more likable character, she would probably still be in it...

Andrea's death was basically a goodbye **** you from the Showeunner at the time. The character was so annoying though that I don't really care.

She was one of my favourite characters up until Season 3, they totally ruined her in that one

If this is the case, I could really see Morales popping up, although I dont think the general audience cares enough about him/even know who he is? So maybe we could see a bigger character (with plenty of characters' backstories a mystery, it really could be anyone)

oh wow :( she got sold out

indeed :clap1: :love:

I don't see how that's Laurie Holden's fault tbh, Andrea was written a different way to how she is in the comics, even before she took a complete detour by going off on her own to Woodbury. It's just a shame that they knew Andrea was the group's marksman, and she made her one of the worst shots.... without even developing her aim and skills

That being said, I'm pretty content with the Atlanta Four we have left (although Glenn should be alive instead of beaten dead horse Daryl... Glenn served more purpose last season than Daryl did ffs stop keeping him alive for fan service)

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Sums up Daryl's place in the show perfectly.

It does but, allegedly, it's believed that his fan power is so great that killing him off could actually drop viewership to the extent that they'd be at risk of cancellation. So it's just not going to happen... Not until Reedus' contract is up and he doesn't want to renew. Even then I think they'd give him a soft exit to keep the possibility of a return open (which would upset stans less).

But what do his fans actually like about him? I'm generally curious, I just don't see how people can like post season 3 Daryl and I never see any good arguments for why he's still relevant to the story.

Glenn's way better and had so much more potential with his story, especially when we were promised a 'dark Glenn', which I could only imagine is him killing people unwillingly and visibly uncomfortable with the situation. ALSO Glenn's death in the comics had more meaning with him being the one to "take one for the team" and him being the pure innocence and voice of reason which was tainted by Glenn making his first kill and that never being shown to affect him again. Also why the **** was 90% of Glenn's screentime in 6B just foreshadowing his death? He was obviously going to die and there was no reward in the prediction and despite how predictable it was it was STILL just put in for shock factor. AND it took away from Abraham's brutal yet underplayed death. I think Steven wanted Glenn's comic death anyway but it's still annoying that they knew he would be killed off for over a season and did NOTHING with his character. they literally wrote him out for 4 episodes AGAIN for shock factor. They ****ed Glenn up bad man while Daryl just gets loved for breathing smh less popular and quite a fair number of people quit because of his death, so god knows how ratings will change when Daryl's gone

He was great in the first 3 seasons but come season 4 what did he actually do? Nothing note-worthy in 4A, and 4B was just building up to Beth's "death" (I'm #teamdefiance) and trying to make us feel for Daryl (it didn't even develop his character) and it completely overshadowed Maggie losing the only 'family' she had left (I'm not counting Glenn, and I was kinda pissed off Maggie didn't even actively look for Beth and only asked about her once in 5A).
Then the same happened with Denise (still a bull**** death made 100x worse by turning it into a Daryl issue which indirectly caused Michonne, Glenn and Rosita captured) and then half the time we saw any mourning for Glenn, it was Daryl feeling ****ty for trying to take down Negan... like okay, we get it, he's a broken soul in an apocalypse!! who ****ing isn't

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Andrea was my favourite female character and they messed it up.
I hated what they did to her in S3, I was looking forward to her story

They told the actress she was there until s8 at least and then killed her off

The thing is though, many fans don't judge their favourites season to season, so basically if they liked him in S1-S3 they're unlikely to stop just because his storyline has dried up. He was an interesting character initially... A pariah in the real world who found his place in the apocalypse... But that arc completed years ago and for several seasons he's more or less been "muscle" - one of their top zombie slayers and not much else character wise. That said, they sort of do need these "zombie ninja" characters to progress the threats like they have (I.e. Walkers are no longer a major threat, they consider them pests more than anything).

You also have a bit of "Chloe Sullivan syndrome" going on with Daryl which means the writers favor him a bit. Basically, like Daryl, Chloe was an original character created by the shows writers and placed in a world full of characters established in the source material. So, even when she got really (REALLY) irritating, they still massively over-used her and found ways to work her into the bones of every season, right until the end. Because that character was "theirs", not DC comics. Daryl IMO gets similar from the TWD guys, because he's not a Kirkman character.

Good point, I just found it difficult understanding since Daryl has went from one of my favourites to being probably my least favourite character in TWD (besides maybe Gregory, but we're meant to hate him), and I assumed people would just follow the logic of "they've not utilised his character, so why should we support him over characters getting real story and development?" I think the Alexandrians proven that they are more than capable of being 'zombie ninjas' after No Way Out though, which I thought would be enough reason to finish off Daryl (especially since, as you said, he's just become the group's top zombie slayer).

Great analogy, actually. Best way I've seen Daryl described :clap1:

I'll never get why they ****ed her over? I found this quote from Kirkman:
I'll never understand what great 'sacrifice' she tried to make and it's a tad annoying when most of the Survivor's deaths have been 'sacrifices' for the greater good of the group (see T-Dog, they tried to make Abraham's death a 'sacrifice', Merle's (who literally sacrifices himself for the group a few episodes before she died... what was the point in repeating that trope?!), Sasha's), fair enough she was one of the early victims of a repetitive trope, but she was the 3rd character that season to die 'sacrificing herself' for the group... and it wasn't much of a sacrifice or meaningful death?

That said, I do prefer Michonne with Rick (and Michonne in general, but Michonne could've easily ended up with Rick over Andrea anyway if that was their plan) and I appreciate that Michonne's branching out and building up her sniper skills, so it's nice her character wasn't too wasted? That said, I'm just so confused as to why they killed her off if they had big plans for her to go far, because her reason for dying was bull****

Watched just about 3 seasons of this. And an episode here and there.

Why is Niamh on the ban list?

I am so ready for this first episode tonight :hee:

Loved last night's episode, but i think

also liked the remembrance of 2 behind the scenes workers who had died, very emotional at the end of the ep, with the end titles

I had to watch this and the Talking Dead last night

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i really hate the Michonne and Rick love scenes :yuk: she's so much better than being with him

First Episode :

I thought the episode was pretty weak for an opener. The action wasn't that great apart from Daryl shooting the containers on his bike.

Negan is still just annoying to me rather than menacing too

Episode 1:

The uncensored Negan in the season 6 finale is quite terrifying. I didn't realise how much the 'f-bomb' made the difference. ( -flashbacks to when they changed "they're ****ing with the wrong people" to "they're screwing with the wrong people!!"- )
Now he just seems more like a guy who's meant to be funny but he's just... not?

Lilbro you literally stan the same characters I do haha

Great minds think alike :clap1:

I always feel alone when I say I stan Tara :( She always seemed like the most inoffensive and one of the nicest (if not the nicest with Glenn and Heath gone, and excluding Gabriel) while also being entertaining

I think I have a bad case of TiBB syndrome, it feels like most of my faves of TWD have been females... I adored Daryl until season 4, and I loved Abraham and Glenn but look how that turned out

TiBB syndrome Lilbro :laugh:

"Y'all got to realise sumthin'... Negan... He ain't just some regular character... He's like meee or Coooral or Daaayryl. He's got the plot armour." - Rick, S08E01

... By which I mean, if they continue to follow the graphic novels, Negan himself still has a role to play in future storylines even after the Saviours are dead and buried.

Then again they could do it better than they do, like have him actually keep himself out of harms way for the mostpart (he could have shouted / spoken to them from behind a barricade, just like they were, would actually have been quite effective imagery) instead of him constantly being in situations where someone could clearly stab / shoot / whack him with something but just... Don't do it...

Oh I'm all for him surviving and becoming the major character/redeemed character he becomes in the comics. But he's escaped near death so many times it's ridiculous, it is, as you say, "plot armour".

I'm one of the people who defend the fact the Saviors still back him after everything he does (especially since some are against him) as he rules out of fear and guarantees safety, so i can respect that aspect of why he's alive. But he's gotten so lucky it's ridiculous. Eugene blocking Rosita's shot a few episodes ago, Lucille blocking Rosita's bullet in the Season 7 MSF, Negan escaping the season 7 finale unharmed (it was a massive free-for-all and no one decided to go for the main guy? I guess the same could be said for Rick but... he was shot and Negan/the Saviors kept him alive for the Lucille lineup AND I still think it was BS that Sasha didn't bite him). Did Carl even try to attack him during their moments alone?)
Yesterday's episode was just rubbing it in. One shot (or a few, Simon could easily lead the Saviors in Negan's place after all) and they had the 'tomorrow' they all dreamed of. And yeah, Rick tricked them, but I still think it's bull**** that none of the five up there were fatally shot (or bit) when there was an army of people aiming for them (granted most were gunning down the windows, probably hoping to kill some Saviors inside, but why not take out the big guys you know are there right in front of you and then focus on the small frys?)

What makes it worse is, Negan's gonna survive this predicament he's in... and then the rest of the war... and that'd be fine, if he was safe and could avoid being shot at in a reasonable way (like you explained), rather than just getting lucky

My take on last night was the whole ep played right into the hands of the NRA and gun ownership in AMerica

To be fair, "potential zombie apocalypse" is right up there in reasons to support ownership of guns in my opinion. That said, if TWD is to be believed, the most effective weapons for zombie slaying are actually katanas, crossbows, and broom handles :think:..

Also I think most of their assault weaponry at this point was obtained from police and army stockpiles... They didn't have anything like that much until Rick and Michonne raided an army encampment last season. Although they never really explained how that encampment, in the middle of a huge amusement park complete with ferris-wheel towering in the sky, hadn't already been raided by the Saviours who were operating in the area for years before Rick and Co wandered over from Atlanta...

It were okay.

well all i know is i bought 2 handguns on the dark web today and all i went in for was to kidnap a woman and get some coke :shrug: