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Cherie 11-11-2017 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688554)
Ah, you're trying to change the goalposts. Comparing the amount of positive and negative tweets would achieve nothing, it doesn't change the racism aimed at this ad. All it would do is downplay it.

This whole 'UK is Racist narrative' thing you are trying to push is quite nonsensical and isn't reflected in my posts nor the original article.

How is it moving the goal posts to ask for some perspective to this, Twitter is full of trolls yet you only refer to their tweets, maybe it wold be nice for a change and for the Muslim community to hear that their inclusion in a Christian festival was praised, integration cuts both ways

Cherie 11-11-2017 07:43 AM

Christmas Tesco Ad Featuring Muslims Prompts Messages Of Inclusion After Racist Backlash
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Christmas Tesco Ad Featuring Muslims Prompts Messages Of Inclusion After Racist Backlash
'The more festivities we can all enjoy together, the better.'
10/11/2017 15:44 GMT | Updated 16 hours ago
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Jasmin Gray Reporter, HuffPost UK
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Christmas lovers have been sharing their messages of sharing and inclusion after a festive Tesco ad featuring a Muslim family sparked a racist backlash.

Some customers threatened to boycott the supermarket after noticing that its Christmas included scenes of a Muslim family exchanging gifts, while others called it “very wrong”.

In response, fans of the “Everyone’s Welcome” ad have taken to social media to explain why its “wonderful to share the day with everyone,” regardless of their faith.

One man explained how his family celebrates Christmas each year with their Muslim friends.


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Tesco's festive ad sparked a backlash after viewers noticed it included scenes of a a Muslim family celebrating Christmas
“We give our Muslim neighbours’ kids Christmas presents, and they give presents to ours. We share food,” he tweeted.

“They don’t come to church, but then again we don’t go to the mosque when they have us over for Eid.

He added: “Christmas is something everyone can get involved in.”

Many Muslims also wrote about why they enjoy the festive season.

One woman wrote: “I am Muslim and I love Christmas.

“It’s so nice and it’s also cultural. I just love the tastes and smells.”



There we go let's focus on some positivity for a change

lostalex 11-11-2017 07:44 AM

Xmas ads are basically like the Superbowl for the UK. It always makes me laugh when Brits talk shhh-it about America for the fuss about Super Bowl ads, but it's literally the same for Christmas ads in the UK, except instead of looking for something clever and funny, y'all just look for something that makes you feel any kind of emotion. Brits are desperate for something emotional.

DemolitionRed 11-11-2017 07:45 AM

This is a really interesting article about the 25th December https://www.islamicity.org/6407/jesu...and-christmas/

lostalex 11-11-2017 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9688613)
This is a really interesting article about the 25th December https://www.islamicity.org/6407/jesu...and-christmas/

I don't see how that's relevant. Either you accept Jesus as God or not. That's the basis of the Christian religion, that Jesus was God. Kind of having reverence for him as a prophet (they also worship a pedophile prophet) is not the same thing at all.

Spoiler:
Spoiler:

There is no God. It's all a lie for power and money. and unfortunately it's working.

DemolitionRed 11-11-2017 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688614)
I don't see how that's relevant. Either you accept Jesus as God or not. That's the basis of the Christian religion, that Jesus was God. Kind of having reverence for him as a prophet (they also worship a pedophile prophet) is not the same thing at all.

Spoiler:
Spoiler:

There is no God

Its relevant because it explains different reasons why the 25th December is celebrated and why the 25th December is not just a Christian festival.

edited to add: most Christian faiths don't think Jesus is God. They believe Jesus was the son of God and appointed by God.

lostalex 11-11-2017 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9688615)
Its relevant because it explains different reasons why the 25th December is celebrated and why the 25th December is not just a Christian festival.

edited to add: most Christian faiths don't think Jesus is God. They believe Jesus was the son of God and appointed by God.

Well i'm a catholic and what you just said is blasphemous. please stop offending me now. (j/k sort of, i'm an atheist now) seriously though your protestant ways of devaluing Jesus as the living embodiment of God is offensive. he was not a symbol of God, he was actually God on earth. That is the basis of Christianity. I don't know what Christian church you went to that said that Jesus was not God. It's pretty much the whole point of the religion, no matter what branch, Jesus was God coming to earth and dying for the sins of humanity. If Jesus wasn't God then he wasn't the savior.

once again Spoiler:
Spoiler:

There is no God, it's all a lie.

Brillopad 11-11-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9688553)
How many times do you need to be told? Islam is not a race, it's an ideology.

It is indeed - a man-made ideology just like all religion. People can believe in what they like but when they start trying to shove it down the thoroats of the rest of us then it becomes a problem.

Cal. 11-11-2017 08:36 AM

Can Christians stop pretending it's their holiday? It's MY holiday to stuff as many pigs in blankets down my big fat gob as I can.

lostalex 11-11-2017 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 9688633)
Can Christians stop pretending it's their holiday? It's MY holiday to stuff as many pigs in blankets down my big fat gob as I can.

who's trying to stop you?

so insensitive to muslims. Keep it halal, Asshole!

Greg! 11-11-2017 08:42 AM

Christians stole crimbo off the pagans anyway so why are they raging.

Crimson Dynamo 11-11-2017 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 9688442)
People need to get over it. It’s like people who get shocked that some Muslims drink, do drugs or gamble, stop stealing our culture Muslims!

lol

then by definition they cant be muslims

its like saying "get over it some vegetarians eat steak and bacon"

bots 11-11-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688618)
Well i'm a catholic and what you just said is blasphemous. please stop offending me now. (j/k sort of, i'm an atheist now) seriously though your protestant ways of devaluing Jesus as the living embodiment of God is offensive. he was not a symbol of God, he was actually God on earth. That is the basis of Christianity. I don't know what Christian church you went to that said that Jesus was not God. It's pretty much the whole point of the religion, no matter what branch, Jesus was God coming to earth and dying for the sins of humanity. If Jesus wasn't God then he wasn't the savior.

once again Spoiler:
Spoiler:

There is no God, it's all a lie.

i think you need to go back and re-read your bible. Jesus was the Son of God.

Crimson Dynamo 11-11-2017 08:53 AM

what is annoying is that its just so pathetic virtue signalling to get likes (just like M&S and JL)

as TS said its cynical and treats its audience like knobs

Brillopad 11-11-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9688640)
what is annoying is that its just so pathetic virtue signalling to get likes (just like M&S and JL)

as TS said its cynical and treats its audience like knobs

It’s big brother trying to tell us all how to think. We are indeed being treated like children by the advertising giants.

I mean, really, advertising giants suddenly getting alll PC and ‘moral’ - pull the other one. It’s pandering to PC in the belief that is where the money is at the moment. Just don’t expect me to buy your products- patronising, hypocritical knobs.

Jake. 11-11-2017 09:02 AM

Pathetic, only word which springs to mind really and it annoys me that companies even acknowledge it

Cherie 11-11-2017 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 9688648)
Pathetic, only word which springs to mind really and it annoys me that companies even acknowledge it

It's acknowledged to cynically give them more publicity, are they really outraged by what Twitter trolls post, not really

DemolitionRed 11-11-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 9688633)
Can Christians stop pretending it's their holiday? It's MY holiday to stuff as many pigs in blankets down my big fat gob as I can.

Hehe... it was pigs in blankets that broke my vegetarianism. we were at my parents for Xmas. I'd wandered into the kitchen and discovered a dozen pigs in blankets and couldn't resist eating half of them. Everyone but me got the blame because I was the only vegetarian :hehe:

thesheriff443 11-11-2017 09:10 AM

Will the advert stop me shopping at Tesco? No
Will the advert make me treat Muslims any differently? No
Will I continue to treat people the way I want to be treated? Yes

Brillopad 11-11-2017 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 9688659)
Will the advert stop me shopping at Tesco? No
Will the advert make me treat Muslims any differently? No
Will I continue to treat people the way I want to be treated? Yes

Will it stop me shopping at Tesco - yes cheap rubbish anyway.

Will it make me respect a religion that teaches sexism - no.

Will I continue to treat people the way I want to be treated - yes.

lostalex 11-11-2017 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9688637)
i think you need to go back and re-read your bible. Jesus was the Son of God.

please explain how he is the son of god to me. he was god taking the flesh, embodying man to deliver the message, the whole point is that it was god coming to earth. did you not pay attention? you honestly can't be so dumb to not know that the entire idea of Jesus is that God was taking a mortal form to spread his messege on earth.

Withano 11-11-2017 09:52 AM

How did twitter users determine they were muslim? Genuine question.

lostalex 11-11-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9688677)
How did twitter users determine they were muslim? Genuine question.

That's like asking how do you know that Boris or Corbyn are numpties. even a blind man can see it.

Withano 11-11-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688678)
That's like asking how do you know that Boris or Corbyn are numpties. even a blind man can see it.

Yh but what was the give away? Was there a quran in the background or something?

Brillopad 11-11-2017 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688678)
That's like asking how do you know that Boris or Corbyn are numpties. even a blind man can see it.

Here, here to that!

lostalex 11-11-2017 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9688679)
Yh but what was the give away? Was there a quran in the background or something?

i honestly haven't seen the ad. i'm assuming they were brown or something.

Withano 11-11-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688682)
i honestly haven't seen the ad. i'm assuming they were brown or something.

Same and same!
If it comes down to people kicking up a fuss about people of a skin colour being featured in a christmas ad, we should probably focus on the twitter users who assumed their religion more than the tesco ad itself.. that seems like the bigger story here.

lostalex 11-11-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9688683)
Same and same!
If it comes down to people kicking up a fuss about people of a skin colour being featured in a christmas ad, we should probably focus on the twitter users who assumed their religion more than the tesco ad itself.. that seems like the bigger story here.

or the bigger story is Tesco knowing idiots would kick up a fuss, and get their ad on every news program while they talk about how inclusive and progressive Tesco is. not to be cynical or anything...

Withano 11-11-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688684)
or the bigger story is Tesco knowing idiots would kick up a fuss, and get their ad on every news program while they talk about how inclusive and progressive Tesco is. not to be cynical or anything...

I mean, I don't think Tesco are above publicity stunts, but I don't think thats what they aimed for here. I just watched the ad, and yeh, we were kinda right. Just Twitter users getting upset after they, personally, assumed the religion of paid actors. I think the Twitter users are more of a newsworthy story than the ad tbh!

lostalex 11-11-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9688688)
I mean, I don't think Tesco are above publicity stunts, but I don't think thats what they aimed for here. I just watched the ad, and yeh, we were kinda right. Just Twitter users getting upset after they, personally, assumed the religion of paid actors. I think the Twitter users are more of a newsworthy story than the ad tbh!

how many "twitter users" are we actually talking about?

Withano 11-11-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688690)
how many "twitter users" are we actually talking about?

I have no idea. I'd like to think that there wasn't many more than 2 twitter users who assumed someones religion and then got upset because they did so, but I could be wrong.

Cherie 11-11-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688318)
.......lol

In articles like this they'll take two or three examples because, you know, you'd be scrolling for years if they listed all the tweets relating to the story.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9688691)
I have no idea. I'd like to think that there wasn't many more than 2 twitter users who assumed someones religion and then got upset because they did so, but I could be wrong.

.

lostalex 11-11-2017 11:26 AM

literally, 5 racist people on twitter can get the attention of the british media to make a meal of it. and the british media will then act like they are anti-racist, while profiting off of making a meal out of 5 racist twitter posts.

Cherie 11-11-2017 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 9688741)
literally, 5 racist people on twitter can get the attention of the british media to make a meal of it.


in a nutshell

Brillopad 11-11-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9688290)
I like it when racists pretend that Christmas is anything but an excuse to get pissed, eat like pigs and get given presents for 90% of the country so they can feel validated in their racism. Christmas simply isn't a religious holiday for most people any more and to pretend otherwise is just silly.

The judge and jury on racism. :bored: beyond belief! Some ol, same ol hateful garbage. You accuse others of ‘hate’ when you have a pretty good grip on that yourself.

Northern Monkey 11-11-2017 11:41 AM

This seems to be a very small selection of idiots on Twitter.It seems there were probably just as many people complaining that the ad is being shown too early or vegans complaining about it featuring turkey.Since no more than 2-3 of the same examples are given of these overly PC morons complaining about it featuring muslims.
This is in the same vein as these idiots who go on about ‘cultural appropriation’.”white people can’t where dreadlocks cos it’s jus black culture”(even though it isn’t) or “Katy Perry is culturally appropriating Chinese culture”.
It’s all anti inclusivity and it’s seen in every subsection of humans.There are alot of idiots about.
If we are all going to merge into this one super culture that the powers that be seem to be pushing then we need to learn to start accepting each others traditions and there’s nothing more accepting than joining in.
Muslims that do celebrate Christmas are integrating which is a very good thing.

But yeah as DR said Jesus was more than likely born in summer anyway.For a start sheep would’ve been under cover in the winter and i’ve also heard things about the position of the star that they all followed being only there in the summer months.

I’m with Cherie,Alex and LT on this one.It seems Tesco were looking for this reaction on social media just so they could bleet about ‘how inclusive we are’.When else do they react a couple of idiotic tweets,They’ll get complaints every day.It’s publicity.

Tom4784 11-11-2017 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688609)
How is it moving the goal posts to ask for some perspective to this, Twitter is full of trolls yet you only refer to their tweets, maybe it wold be nice for a change and for the Muslim community to hear that their inclusion in a Christian festival was praised, integration cuts both ways

Because none of that changes the fact that the 'controversy' of this advert is fuelled by racism and you want to downplay it because it makes you uncomfortable.

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9688739)
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Again, you're not making much sense here. Withano's post does not contradict mine.

Brillopad 11-11-2017 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9688755)
This seems to be a very small selection of idiots on Twitter.It seems there were probably just as many people complaining that the ad is being shown too early or vegans complaining about it featuring turkey.Since no more than 2-3 of the same examples are given of these overly PC morons complaining about it featuring muslims.
This is in the same vein as these idiots who go on about ‘cultural appropriation’.”white people can’t where dreadlocks cos it’s jus black culture”(even though it isn’t) or “Katy Perry is culturally appropriating Chinese culture”.
It’s all anti inclusivity and it’s seen in every subsection of humans.There are alot of idiots about.
If we are all going to merge into this one super culture that the powers that be seem to be pushing then we need to learn to start accepting each others traditions and there’s nothing more accepting than joining in.
Muslims that do celebrate Christmas are integrating which is a very good thing.

But yeah as DR said Jesus was more than likely born in summer anyway.For a start sheep would’ve been under cover in the winter and i’ve also heard things about the position of the star that they all followed being only there in the summer months.

I’m with Cherie,Alex and LT on this one.It seems Tesco were looking for this reaction on social media just so they could bleet about ‘how inclusive we are’.When else do they react a couple of idiotic tweets,They’ll get complaints every day.It’s publicity.

Money, money, money it always is!

DemolitionRed 11-11-2017 12:17 PM

I just watched the advert. It had a Hindu wearing a turban and a bunch of women wearing head coverings. They could be Muslim women but could equally be Orthodox Christians.

Brillopad 11-11-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9688770)
I just watched the advert. It had a Hindu wearing a turban and a bunch of women wearing head coverings. They could be Muslim women but could equally be Orthodox Christians.

Does Christianity require women to cover their hair - that’s news to me.


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