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chuff me dizzy 22-11-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704071)
Yes but I was specifically talking about Amirs tweets where he was using it as an insult, obviously using the word gay isn't bad :/

Live and let live, if something doesn't please you ,ignore it

Niamh. 22-11-2017 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9704075)
Live and let live, if something doesn't please you ,ignore it

It's nice to be so free thinking when the insult isn't actually affecting you though :laugh: How did you like it when people were referring posters here and on FB as "cat ladies" Live and Let live?

ETA: I'm not saying I think Amir should be kicked out but it isn't nice for gay people I would imagine to be used as the butt of someones jokes

chuff me dizzy 22-11-2017 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704078)
It's nice to be so free thinking when the insult isn't actually affecting you though :laugh: How did you like it when people were referring posters here and on FB as "cat ladies" Live and Let live?

How does it effect ANYONE ? The Cat ladies was a childish, immature saying used by a gang ,not one person so that gang attacking,totally different

Niamh. 22-11-2017 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9704080)
How does it effect ANYONE ? The Cat ladies was a childish, immature saying used by a gang ,not one person so that gang attacking,totally different

So basically it depends if you think people are referring to you or not whether you consider it offensive? Thought so.

chuff me dizzy 22-11-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704081)
So basically it depends if you think people are referring to you or not whether you consider it offensive? Thought so.

I hate,despise cats ............ People are too precious now and take everything so seriously ,their lives revolve around digging for **** to throw at people, move on ,ignore and get on with your lives ,without he called you something wrong direct to your face

Nancy. 22-11-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9704085)
I hate,despise cats ............ People are too precious now and take everything so seriously ,their lives revolve around digging for **** to throw at people, move on ,ignore and get on with your lives ,without he called you something wrong direct to your face

I actually agree with this. People seem to have turned into snowflakes and looking for anything to be offended about. Does it make their day any better by complaining about it? I dread to think how they would've coped in the 70's and 80's when tv shows (especially comedy) was tinged with homophobia, racism and sexism on a regular basis. They'd have a fit.

Niamh. 22-11-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nancy. (Post 9704101)
I actually agree with this. People seem to have turned into snowflakes and looking for anything to be offended about. Does it make their day any better by complaining about it? I dread to think how they would've coped in the 70's and 80's when tv shows (especially comedy) was tinged with homophobia, racism and sexism on a regular basis. They'd have a fit.

No one is actually having a fit though, I was just saying that it must not be very nice to be the butt of someones joke like that. I have no idea what the relevance is about going back to the 70's/80's, thankfully we've moved on from when sexism/racism was rife and now it's not ok to do things like touch womens asses at work and make sure they make the coffee for the boys etc

Crimson Dynamo 22-11-2017 10:33 AM

again, its NOT about ANYONE being offended its about the Network loosing ad revenue.

Im a Celeb is a big ticket show for ITV and ad deals are being negotiated all the time. If the agencies get a sniff of some controversy they will leverage that to get discounts and better deals

"I dont think my client John Lewis want to be associated with a programme that showcases homophobes"

"Ok, how about we knock off £20,000 will you go ahead"?

"its a deal"

They cant afford it so it will be interesting to see how they deal with Vardy and Khan as they have shot their bolt with Jack (unless there is more to it not yet out in the open)

Niamh. 22-11-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9704112)
again, its NOT about ANYONE being offended its about the Network loosing ad revenue.

Im a Celeb is a big ticket show for ITV and ad deals are being negotiated all the time. If the agencies get a sniff of some controversy they will leverage that to get discounts and better deals

"I dont think my client John Lewis want to be associated with a programme that showcases homophobes"

"Ok, how about we knock off £20,000 will you go ahead"?

"its a deal"

They cant afford it so it will be interesting to see how they deal with Vardy and Khan as they have shot their bolt with Jack (unless there is more to it not yet out in the open)

If the Jack ejection (if he was ejected) was solely because of the tweets we saw then it would be really unfair on him not to also eject Rebekah & Amir. This whole Twitter culture though is a mess and it's making it really really messy for Reality Shows like this one and CBB etc

Crimson Dynamo 22-11-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704116)
If the Jack ejection (if he was ejected) was solely because of the tweets we saw then it would be really unfair on him not to also eject Rebekah & Amir. This whole Twitter culture though is a mess and it's making it really really messy for Reality Shows like this one and CBB etc

its also very unfair to remove him and not explain to the campmates (but it will be in the contract)

what is far worse is to say he has been removed as they did last night and


1. not say why, treating us like twats

2. go ahead and show him for the rest of that ep


:facepalm:

bots 22-11-2017 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704116)
If the Jack ejection (if he was ejected) was solely because of the tweets we saw then it would be really unfair on him not to also eject Rebekah & Amir. This whole Twitter culture though is a mess and it's making it really really messy for Reality Shows like this one and CBB etc

its only messy, because the stupid people have posted crap on twitter thinking it makes them cool/funny/edgy/brave or whatever. Jack could be exactly the same down his local pub and the locals would be saying ... what a knob or whatever, but no-one else would know. They chose to push their views out to millions in some cases, and with that comes an element of responsibility, which they seem to be too thick to realise.

Niamh. 22-11-2017 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9704121)
its also very unfair to remove him and not explain to the campmates (but it will be in the contract)

what is far worse is to say he has been removed as they did last night and


1. not say why, treating us like twats

2. go ahead and show him for the rest of that ep


:facepalm:

Yeah totally agree

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9704122)
its only messy, because the stupid people have posted crap on twitter thinking it makes them cool/funny/edgy/brave or whatever. Jack could be exactly the same down his local pub and the locals would be saying ... what a knob or whatever, but no-one else would know. They chose to push their views out to millions in some cases, and with that comes an element of responsibility, which they seem to be too thick to realise.

This whole everything is recorded now stuff is a bit unsettling tbqh. If he said it down the local no doubt someone would have recorded it on their smart phone and posted it on youtube :laugh:

bots 22-11-2017 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704124)
Yeah totally agree



This whole everything is recorded now stuff is a bit unsettling tbqh. If he said it down the local no doubt someone would have recorded it on their smart phone and posted it on youtube :laugh:

its a sad day indeed when one can't even go down to the local and make an arse of oneself :laugh:

Niamh. 22-11-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9704128)
its a sad day indeed when one can't even go down to the local and make an arse of oneself :laugh:

Thankfully there was no smart phones or internet when I was a young idiot :hehe:

Cherie 22-11-2017 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9704121)
its also very unfair to remove him and not explain to the campmates (but it will be in the contract)

what is far worse is to say he has been removed as they did last night and


1. not say why, treating us like twats

2. go ahead and show him for the rest of that ep


:facepalm:

that was most bizarre

LukeB 22-11-2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704116)
If the Jack ejection (if he was ejected) was solely because of the tweets we saw then it would be really unfair on him not to also eject Rebekah & Amir. This whole Twitter culture though is a mess and it's making it really really messy for Reality Shows like this one and CBB etc

I will be amazed if this keeps happening, surely this is a wake up call for public figures to delete their awful tweets before going on any show?

I think Jacks agent wanted him out so he can fix this even though his apology will be fake to save his career

arista 22-11-2017 11:59 AM

He has not said so
on the Show?


Many Muslims are Anti Gay
its Normal .

arista 22-11-2017 12:01 PM

https://d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.ne...HiqTV_star.JPG

More about Snakes than gays..............

GoldHeart 22-11-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 9704173)
I will be amazed if this keeps happening, surely this is a wake up call for public figures to delete their awful tweets before going on any show?

I think Jacks agent wanted him out so he can fix this even though his apology will be fake to save his career

Forget about deleting their "awful tweets" why write them in the first place ?? :facepalm:, everything is screen shotted and retweeted and resaved ,so doesn't make a difference to delete as they'll always be out there, didn't Jack try and cover his back by deleting old tweets , but they still resurfaced :nono:, so pretty stupid and naive for people to think when the internet is concerned that the DELETE button means gone forever :joker: .

I think ITV for sure are scared to be associated with racism, homophobia etc and that's why they removed Jack as they fear the huge bad reputation they could get , they shouldn't put idiots in the jungle in the first place, I bet plenty of over 30's were wondering who the F Jack was.

Niamh. 22-11-2017 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 9704189)
Forget about deleting their "awful tweets" why write them in the first place ?? :facepalm:, everything is screen shotted and retweeted and resaved ,so doesn't make a difference to delete as they'll always be out there, didn't Jack try and cover his back by deleting old tweets , but they still resurfaced :nono:, so pretty stupid and naive for people to think when the internet is concerned that the DELETE button means gone forever :joker: .

I think ITV for sure are scared to be associated with racism, homophobia etc and that's why they removed Jack as they fear the huge bad reputation they could get , they shouldn't put idiots in the jungle in the first place, I bet plenty of over 30's were wondering who the F Jack was.

Yeah, imo they should either

A - Do some proper research for this kind of stuff before you sign a person

or

B - Get a producer in to tell him whats happened and give them the opportunity to address the public in the Bush telegraph and let them decide if they want to keep him in or vote them out when it comes time to do that :shrug:

Livia 22-11-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 9704175)
He has not said so
on the Show?


Many Muslims are Anti Gay
its Normal .

Yes. He's a Muslim, they're not famed for their tolerance of gay people.

Tom4784 22-11-2017 01:04 PM

I would have thought someone whose religion has known such persecution and vicious stereotypes would be less likely to stereotype other religions out of empathy.

No religion is famed for their acceptance of the gays but it doesn't mean that all religious people believe in the anti-gay sentiments of their religious texts.

GoldHeart 22-11-2017 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9704227)
Yes. He's a Muslim, they're not famed for their tolerance of gay people.

Ok and Vardy's tweets is because?? :joker:

Shaun 22-11-2017 01:07 PM

I thought the whole point was that Jack Maynard's agent/agency withdrew him from the show to deal with the controversy in their own way (presumably a few sad-faced YouTube videos and a nice photoshoot or two of Jack with a Pride flag and a very solemn "look guys I've changed" face or whatever)? Not that he was axed from the show.

I do think younger people are scrutinised more by what they say online but part of me thinks people of his nature - people who are trying to get famous THROUGH social media - would be incredibly ****ing naive and stupid to go ahead without even so little as a quick "search my own username + fag/*****/****/gay/******/bitch/slut/etc" cleaning process? Especially when such a platform is pretty much key to your shtick? With Amir/Rebekah it's very much a "we started using this to talk with friends and banter with fans" sort of tool, and whilst their tweets are indeed...questionable at best... no one really would look at them with such a degree of surprise.

I mean boxing's - let alone the sporting world's - problems with gays is a whole new barrel of lunacy entirely...

Niamh. 22-11-2017 01:10 PM

Depends which article you read Shaun about whether he was ejected or his agents pulled him out

Shaun 22-11-2017 01:14 PM

It strikes me as odd the whole "ejection" angle because IAC isn't really in a position where it would need to do that for ratings... (then again I haven't seen the ratings but I assume they're high as ever :bored: lol) and it's something, I think, they've never done before.

Even (C)BB are a little bit hesitant on the "dodgy tweets" grounds and they're famed for ejecting any and everyone :laugh: Tom from BB18 is the most recent example I can think of.

Maybe it was a mutual agreement sort of thing. Let him know this story had been brewing, and he asked to speak to his agent or w/e

Niamh. 22-11-2017 01:16 PM

Maybe or I think Arista posted a different article saying that it wasn't to do with the tweets at all and it was something to do with sexual harassment :/ so who actually knows, i doubt we'll ever get the actual story tbh

GoldHeart 22-11-2017 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9704244)
Maybe or I think Arista posted a different article saying that it wasn't to do with the tweets at all and it was something to do with sexual harassment :/ so who actually knows, i doubt we'll ever get the actual story tbh

Every male gets accused of sexual harassment these days . But I think that's a BS rumour :bored: . I think Jack left because of the sht storm he's caused on Twitter:nono: it's so obvious that's the reason and itv and producers don't want it to destroy IAC .

If anything the YouTube weasel should of gone in BB as they enjoy putting in all kinds of controversial twts :notimpressed: .

Cal. 22-11-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 9704026)
Calling people "gay" has always happened in a joke ,I cannot see anything wrong in it myself

Oh you bloody wouldn't would you?

reece(: 22-11-2017 05:38 PM

:facepalm:

Withano 22-11-2017 05:44 PM

I half feel as if his management did actually contribute to pulling him out. I think it just seems weird that we're told the truth that we're desperately trying to think what else it could be! (Thanks big brother, now we have trust issues).

Denver 22-11-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 9704243)
It strikes me as odd the whole "ejection" angle because IAC isn't really in a position where it would need to do that for ratings... (then again I haven't seen the ratings but I assume they're high as ever :bored: lol) and it's something, I think, they've never done before.

Even (C)BB are a little bit hesitant on the "dodgy tweets" grounds and they're famed for ejecting any and everyone :laugh: Tom from BB18 is the most recent example I can think of.

Maybe it was a mutual agreement sort of thing. Let him know this story had been brewing, and he asked to speak to his agent or w/e

They ejected Spencer for taking Steriods

chuff me dizzy 22-11-2017 06:19 PM

I would hate being in the public eye, they can keep the crazy money they make, having to watch every word i said or posted on social media,as everything they say gets dissected until some bored,spotty youth finds something not 100% PC in it :bored:


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