Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9759285)

Yeah, it's done under local anaesthetic :joker:. I wish I could say I didn't feel a thing - but that's not true either, you can feel a sort of pulling / tugging with an ache like being kicked in the nuts, and I personally felt some "sharp" pain when they were stitching up, too.

All while the senior nurse was reassuringly patting my chest and telling me I was doing well for not crying, and the student was asking me about Irish Lotto! Bloody surreal...

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9759241)

No-one has said the nurse did anything wrong although he was criticised by the NHS for mis-management of the situation by stating he was not a male which the woman herself found odd.

What will happen though if and when self-identification of transgender women becomes enshrined in our laws? Will that limit choice in such situations or will anyone who expresses a preference be labelled or feel labelled? It does effectively prioritise the feelings of a minority over the majority. And it will lead to health consequences as many will fail to have such tests wihich will cost more money for the NHS if they develop cancer and require aggressive treatment.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9759261)

Except that's not going to happen. It's just irrational to think that could become the norm and it's harmful as you are basically suggesting that trans people are more likely to sexually abuse someone because they might only be claiming to be trans just for some pretend idea that it means they can get away with molesting people.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9759301)

Whoa whoa whoa....ah got knocked oot, woke up to toast....mocked by the biggest bitch of an ex wife for walking solemenly up the hospital corridors as i suddenly realised my bollox wern't shaved for fashion.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9759697)

Ridiculous to make an issue of an error, yes people have a choice but come on these people are professionals!
In an emergency situation or in childbirth for instance does anyone care who treats them?... No, of course not they're there to (

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9759697)

Ridiculous to make an issue of an error, yes people have a choice but come on these people are professionals!
In an emergency situation or in childbirth for instance does anyone care who treats them?... No, of course not they're there to do a job.

What a horrible prejudiced non story :(

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9759753)

It’s no more prejudiced than the other side of the coin, where everyone is supposed to feel the same way and if they don’t they should put up and shut up.

Thankfully people have their own minds and won’t be dictated to by the far-left.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9758828)

What if i dont class myself as any sex?

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9759848)

Then why would you care either way what sex the doctor is?

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9759840)

See... this proves my point from another thread, you have no counter to my point so you make ambiguous references to the other side of the coin, what is 'the other side'?

There was no issue, it was a clerical error that has been shown, so why are you suggesting anything has been dictated by the far left?
I agree that peoples wishes should be adhered to where possible and if she had to forgo her treatment that day then that is what must happen.

What is your solution to the emergency situation carry a DNR note in your pocket in case you are injured and the only medical professional available is transgender?...

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9759270)

I have also had a cancer scare in the past and I did care. Women tend to be more private that way. You see it in simple things like changing rooms where men nearly always walk around naked in friont of each other. Women not so much. Men pee in front of each other something women never do. Whether you want to see it or admit it or not there are distinct differences between men and women this way.

Does everyone really have to feel like you to have their feelings and opinions validated?

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9759446)

Let’s clarify what I actually said shall we, not your interpretation. I did not say trans people were more likely to sexually abuse someone - I said that if any man can simply claim to feel like a woman and is therefore a woman and can have easier access to women and girls, such a policy will be taken advantage of by some men and the real creeps will come out of the woodwork with such an opportunity presented to them.

Aren’t most rapes and other sexual attacks mainly opportunistic in nature.

I’m so reassured that a young guy on an internet site says it will never happen.

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9759253)

And what’s frightening, particularly with all the allegations of male assaults on women and young girls of late, is that there are a lot of Savills out there. Any man could just claim to feel like a woman and gain access to female changing rooms and other areas and vulnerable women such as young girls. Commonsense has flown the coup with complete abandonment.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9760017)

Stereotypes will get you nowhere.

Your last point makes no real sense, I assume you just wanted to score points but didn't really think what you wrote through? Because I never said anywhere that only people who think like me have valid opinions, that's definitely more of an attitude you tend to display.




What you said was sensationalist and driven by ignorance and fear. This is what you said.



You basically did the trans equivalent of saying 'Gay marriage? What next? Making bestiality and paedophilia legal?' By making what would be an exceptionally rare (and currently impossible situation) seem commonplace, you are demonising trans people by comparing them to peadophiles by making out that they could just be faking it to molest people. You can't self certify yourself as a trans person at the moment and the law doesn't really cover someone who isn't certified. Any old peado can't just walk into a doctor's office and say 'I'm trans, now let me abuse people'. That's just incredibly so far removed from reality. Any kind of trans certification whether by a doctor or self certified isn't a license to rape people, you do understand that right?

Anybody you meet could be a potential rapist but that doesn't give you the right to demonise anyone that happens to be different from you.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 9759896)

I wouldnt, but i would like the choice.:shrug:

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9759753)

It’s no more prejudiced than the other side of the coin, where everyone is supposed to feel the same way and if they don’t they should put up and shut up.

Thankfully people have their own minds and won’t be dictated to by the far-left.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9759848)

Then why would you care either way what sex the doctor is?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9760632)

I would much rather a female doctor, you don't get a choice in hospitals but I have a female GP by choice

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9760670)

I meant in response to the person who said they don't identify as any sex.

It's a weird one for me. For a consultation where I'm discussing private matters (usually when evaluating my antidepressants) I prefer to see the female doctor. But if requiring a physical exam I'd be more comfortable with a male doctor. [emoji23]



(In before Scott or somebody makes this sexual :nono:)

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9760722)

I'd rather have a female for a physical exam because it's nice for them to have a treat :shrug:.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9760722)

I'd rather have a female for a physical exam because it's nice for them to have a treat :shrug:.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9760702)

I don't want a man carrying out an intimate examination on me, and I don't want a transsexual either. I want someone who understands and has experienced puberty, periods, menstrual cramps and all the other sh1t we go through when you are born a woman. I know "born a woman" is an unfashionable phrase now, but it is true, none the less.

If someone wants to live as a woman and that will make them happy, then that's what they should do. And moreover, I will uphold their right to live a happy life as the person they believe they are. But... unless they have had a womb since their periods started, they will never be a real, 100% woman to me.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 9760788)

What if the nurse is a lesbian

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 9760788)

What if the nurse is a lesbian

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 9760788)

What if the nurse is a lesbian

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9760828)

Then they have even MORE experience of the female body so even better! Livia specifically requests gay or bisexual women doctors.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9760632)

I would much rather a female doctor, you don't get a choice in hospitals but I have a female GP by choice

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9760895)

Men don't get a choice but women do. A man can't refuse a female nurse but a female can refuse a male nurse. Its the same when a nurse or doctor is attending a female patient. If its a male student nurse they have to ask the patient if they mind but if its a female student nurse they don't. Its double standards.

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9760895)

Men don't get a choice but women do. A man can't refuse a female nurse but a female can refuse a male nurse. Its the same when a nurse or doctor is attending a female patient. If its a male student nurse they have to ask the patient if they mind but if its a female student nurse they don't. Its double standards.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 9760907)

The cases of female medical staff sexually assaulting and/or raping male patients is so low as to be hardly there are all. And I'm sure that if it meant a lot to the man not to have a woman medic present, they would turn themselves inside out in an effort to oblige. So, hardly double standards.