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Marsh. 24-01-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 9818400)
Why does everyone expect everyone to accept being gay? She doesn't agree with it but isn't hurtful on her opinions and it's the reason why the LGBT community is never given a fair crack at the whip when you accuses as being homophobic for just looking at a person funny

No. Nothing hurtful about not agreeing other human beings are worthy of equality with other humans just because of who they prefer to share their bed with. In her career, she has been in a position to help give them equality and chose to oppose them at every turn.

Not "agreeing" with it is by definition what homophobia is. She dislikes it and is prejudiced against those people.

Alf 24-01-2018 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9818437)
She murdered fashion years ago.

She's a fashion icon.

Have you seen that nightie? She's bringing back the Wee Willie Winkie look!

luvjustin 24-01-2018 08:39 PM

I am a gay man. I'm 34. I would like to think I'm somewhat intelligent. I am far to the left politically and Anne Widdecombe and I have some very different views about the world.

But, I don't thing we need to be carrying out a witch hunt over an off the cuff comment she made. She didn't say I think gay people are disgusting. She didn't personally attack anyone. She didn't use any unwarranted language. She just said "don't be disgusting". With a sneer granted, but even if she did mean it as a horrible slight to all gay people.. that's fine! She is allowed that opinion! What she is not allowed to do is use that opinion to discriminate someone. To bully or hurt. Until she does that everybody needs to chill the ******* out.

Maru 24-01-2018 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9818285)
I pretty much agree with this (I was just about to quote a different one of your posts in the other thread on this but it's closed but I agree with pretty much all you've already said on this) so I haven't really got anything to add. There's plenty of housemates though who've said and done things I've strongly disagreed with but I've still thought they were great housemates, Pete Burns and Nikki Grahame spring to mind, so I don't have much problem supporting Ann as a housemate whilst disagreeing with her views. I do find it surprising though that so many people don't seem to see why her comments might be offensive to gay people, it really doesn't seem to me to be the greatest stretch of the imagination to think that she might actually hold some anti-gay views considering her past and some of the things she's said.

Both you and joey's post 100%. It's not a stretch at all to see how actions/words can be seen differently in another context. It's basic consideration I think to at least give some thought on how other certain people might feel about the interpretation given the context... even if you don't agree with that specific interpretation, there is room for other interpretations.

Why we give one side full benefit of the doubt to one side and another not, isn't showing that consideration... or empathy really.

I do think though there will always be people who will look for offense anywhere and everywhere and if they can't find it, they will find a way to create it. But you can usually tell who those folk once you converse with them for a bit... but even then, is their perspective 100% invalid in a discussion?

rionablue 24-01-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9815168)
any word on Andrews disgusting comments about women?

no didn't think so

NOW YOUR TALKING I agree totally Cherie

Kazanne 24-01-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9818494)
I am a gay man. I'm 34. I would like to think I'm somewhat intelligent. I am far to the left politically and Anne Widdecombe and I have some very different views about the world.

But, I don't thing we need to be carrying out a witch hunt over an off the cuff comment she made. She didn't say I think gay people are disgusting. She didn't personally attack anyone. She didn't use any unwarranted language. She just said "don't be disgusting". With a sneer granted, but even if she did mean it as a horrible slight to all gay people.. that's fine! She is allowed that opinion! What she is not allowed to do is use that opinion to discriminate someone. To bully or hurt. Until she does that everybody needs to chill the ******* out.

What a great unbiased post:clap1::clap1:

poppsywoppsy 24-01-2018 09:08 PM

Someone please explain to the OP what playing the victim entails.

Denver 24-01-2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9818456)
No. Nothing hurtful about not agreeing other human beings are worthy of equality with other humans just because of who they prefer to share their bed with. In her career, she has been in a position to help give them equality and chose to oppose them at every turn.

Not "agreeing" with it is by definition what homophobia is. She dislikes it and is prejudiced against those people.

She openly loves Shane though and has said what people to behind closed doors is up to them.

She has explained her reasonable reasons for the votes while in parliament

GoldHeart 25-01-2018 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9818494)
I am a gay man. I'm 34. I would like to think I'm somewhat intelligent. I am far to the left politically and Anne Widdecombe and I have some very different views about the world.

But, I don't thing we need to be carrying out a witch hunt over an off the cuff comment she made. She didn't say I think gay people are disgusting. She didn't personally attack anyone. She didn't use any unwarranted language. She just said "don't be disgusting". With a sneer granted, but even if she did mean it as a horrible slight to all gay people.. that's fine! She is allowed that opinion! What she is not allowed to do is use that opinion to discriminate someone. To bully or hurt. Until she does that everybody needs to chill the ******* out.

Exactly :clap1:
Very Refreshing comment .

Cherie 25-01-2018 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9818494)
I am a gay man. I'm 34. I would like to think I'm somewhat intelligent. I am far to the left politically and Anne Widdecombe and I have some very different views about the world.

But, I don't thing we need to be carrying out a witch hunt over an off the cuff comment she made. She didn't say I think gay people are disgusting. She didn't personally attack anyone. She didn't use any unwarranted language. She just said "don't be disgusting". With a sneer granted, but even if she did mean it as a horrible slight to all gay people.. that's fine! She is allowed that opinion! What she is not allowed to do is use that opinion to discriminate someone. To bully or hurt. Until she does that everybody needs to chill the ******* out.

:clap1: a mature and intelligent post

Crimson Dynamo 25-01-2018 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by luvjustin (Post 9818494)
I am a gay man. I'm 34. I would like to think I'm somewhat intelligent. I am far to the left politically and Anne Widdecombe and I have some very different views about the world.

But, I don't thing we need to be carrying out a witch hunt over an off the cuff comment she made. She didn't say I think gay people are disgusting. She didn't personally attack anyone. She didn't use any unwarranted language. She just said "don't be disgusting". With a sneer granted, but even if she did mean it as a horrible slight to all gay people.. that's fine! She is allowed that opinion! What she is not allowed to do is use that opinion to discriminate someone. To bully or hurt. Until she does that everybody needs to chill the ******* out.

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joeysteele 25-01-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9818456)
No. Nothing hurtful about not agreeing other human beings are worthy of equality with other humans just because of who they prefer to share their bed with. In her career, she has been in a position to help give them equality and chose to oppose them at every turn.

Not "agreeing" with it is by definition what homophobia is. She dislikes it and is prejudiced against those people.


That's right,which is why her comment was inappropriately addressed as to the questioner,, in my opinion.

poppsywoppsy 25-01-2018 01:54 PM

Ann just doesn't like PDAs either Gay or Straight.

Not too hard to understand, is it?

Crimson Dynamo 25-01-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 9820130)
Ann just doesn't like PDAs either Gay or Straight.

Not too hard to understand, is it?

seemingly it is for some...


:idc:


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