I am bored of you thinking your the king of the word when you are nothing you are the voice for nobody and nobody owes you anything.

So stop attacking every single person who doesnt agree with you because it got boring years ago

You keep saying this as though it means something.

You don't have to be scared of anything, nor attacking them in the street to be prejudiced towards them and think them a lower class that don't deserve equal rights. No, she doesn't run from the room screaming when a gay person appears. No, she doesn't scream abuse at them and slap them for being gay. But she does think they are of less worth than a straight person and don't deserve equal recognition in society and in law. That's homophobia.

Do you understand now?

I'm discussing Ann Widdecombe and homophobia.

Where you got the idea I'm discussing what I'm owed etc is baffling.

If you want to discuss me Adam, take it to PM. Or make a new thread I couldn't care less. :thumbs:

As it is, I shall continue debating as long as I please and responding to people's posts. If you find that "attacking" that is an issue YOU have to deal with, not me.

WOO.:joker:

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You are not discussing you are just dismissing anyone who doesnt agree with the accusations

I'm disagreeing and providing explanations and then all I'm getting is petty responses from you. Put me on ignore if you don't like people disagreeing with you because you refuse to actually discuss.

Last time I'll reply to you on this entire forum, you are ridiculous.

:oh: how could you out me like that

Spot on.good response.

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Ann is a catholic, and as we all know, the bible frowns upon man on man, though is quite ambiguous about women

Anne is, believe it or not, quite a forward thinking 'older lady' she said she had no problem with gay marriage in a registry office but objected to a 'religious marriage', not exactly homophobic

Regardless of what people believe, as long as you are respectful of others, that should be enough. Andrew, on the other hand, is not respectful of other peoples beliefs

Though I suspect he would behave differently if Anne were a Muslim woman, just to stay on the right side of PC

She voted against civil partnerships?

Everything about this post is wrong.

SHE VOTED NO!

Jesus who gave Ann the power to rule people of the same sex can't be together when she's a ****ing Virgin.

And you wonder why gays dont get taken seriously?

Dude personal attacks.

You need to take a look in the mirror because you just made a tit of your self.

Seems you're holding grudges when you remember posts from years ago.

They are not accusations they are facts.

Ann voted against gay marriage, Ann doesn't agree with gay marriage, Ann is definitely against men laying with men.

the title is serving "I can't be racist I have black friends"

Gays don't get taken seriously? :umm2:

A lesbian being one of Ann's closest friends in the house doesn't mean she isn't homophobic but it does mean she is friendly with and can form friendships with homosexuals even if some of her outdated beliefs go against homosexual rights. She's not hateful against a group and that counts for something.

Like I said in the other thread, there's different levels to things. Ann ain't bad and she's a big / oddly entertaining character on this season (oddly considering her personality). :joker:

...I think she seems to accept people for who they are in terms of their character and she and Amanda have obviously connected so Amanda’s sexuality hasn’t been something she’s been ‘judged on’, as it were....hmmm, it would have been interesting though to see if the friendship had been the same exactly...had Amanda’s partner been a housemate as well and had they showed public displays of affection etc...?...obviously ShaneJ is gay and that didn’t prevent from her feelings at the beginning of saying things like she would be proud to have him as a grandson, which would indicate the acceptance of his sexuality as well..?...she’s very uncomfortable though I think with certain public displays..hmmm but then is that specifically because of the sexuality of the people... as in ...don’t act gay/don’t talk gay because That’s awful and that’s wrong...because she didn’t like any public displays as it were with Ashley and Ginuwine either, so I think it’s more that...she feels some things should be very private between two people...and just not something that she feels comfortable being around...or indeed to be discussed so publicly in a way that she feels is ‘crude’...

Ann has just lost my vote with her ridiculous reasons for nominating. And all my respect. I would vote for anyone other than her now. She's a nasty piece of work.

Oh, you dragging that old chestnut out :idc:

Very good points here :clap1:

Also, that alternative Amanda situation is very interesting and something I'm curious about now. :think: I'm wondering if she doesn't like to see sexual behavior period and if that would actually make her less close to Amanda or if it's different for her if it's not two people who met on the show, knowing each other for only a few days, and having a showmance (/bromance in Andrew & Shane's case).