okay so this is evidence that you don't know what feminism is AT ALL :joker:

Shane J & Andrew, both who did talk behind her back, especially Andrew who said he wanted to smash her ;)


i'm so glad she saw right through him, and she played the game which CBB is a game :clap1:

Really? So it is a part of feminism to get in to bed with guy you have known about 2 days?

you either have to be super oblivious or delusional if you can honestly say that you think women have it easier

What do women not have that men do

Women consistently win divorce settlements and child custody battles. People bend over backwards for women abuse and sexual assault stories whereas male abuse is often laughed at and not taken seriously. Can’t really think of a right men have that women don’t

You do that.

AMEN :clap1:

i do agree with you on the divorce settlements/custody battles & the dismissal of male abuse/sexual assault victims however when female victims DO report, they are often victim-blamed and are thought to be lying so I wouldn't say people "bend over backwards" for them. Also, to answer your question, it's more about how women are treated in today's society compared to their male counterparts rather than what they do and don't have.

There is thing called equality. And that has nothing to do with feminism (old ideology from 60's).

How are women treated different in society today? Just wondering bc personally I’ve seen more real life instances of men being treated poorly purely because of their sex rather than the opposite (tho it’s been rare from both sides), but that’s just me I’d love to hear if other people have had adverse experiences

I agree

Why say feminism when you can say equality?

Unless you believe in feminism as a supremacy movement?

She was hardly almost having sex, they didn't even have a proper kiss :/

Exactly. Short and sweet. :kiss:

Ok, i wanna come over there and cuddle with you. We won't have sex :)

Its called feminism because clearly the imbalance is against women and so it's a womens movement, obviously. Men have never needed to seek equality from women, I'm sure you all know this though

Is this ironic I can’t tell

But how does cuddling someone make her not a feminist though? Aren't feminist allowed have relationships/affection/sex? :laugh:

I know that you are moderator, but that is the most stupidest thing i have ever heard. So equality is not ok for you?

wow how rude you two are, welcome to the forum.

Why does what I wrote say I don't believe in equality? Or are you purposely misunderstanding what I wrote?

It sounds as though you're the one portraying her as a "stone cold" feminist by implying that she's supposed to be against any type of relationship with a man.

So it is rude to tell what you are thinking? Have a nice day too.

No I just literally couldn’t tell if it was ironic lol it wasn’t meant in an offensive way

So she is just a feminist instead of stone cold feminist?

There's nothing stone cold about her. Yes, she's a feminist. I believe every woman should be a feminist.

Anyway assuming u were being serious I could understand needing a movement specifically for women back in like 1900’s because back then we needed a concentrated focus on the fact women just didn’t have the same rights which is wrong, however why should a movement like that exist now and hide over the definition of equality when first the name implies it’s heavily focused on one side and therefore isn’t advocating for the equality of everyone especially when women have all the rights men do have and most modern day feminists are advocating for more, and two if you truly believed in equality why not just say you believe in equality, because I highly doubt even 0.01% of feminists in the modern era would ever advocate for the right of a man. Doesn’t sound like equality does it?

If you're calling me stupid then yes absolutely that's rude. You've not answered my question though. What about my post says I don't believe in equality?

You clearly misunderstood what I was saying, I mean it's a womans movement because women were/are the ones discriminated against, in the same way that Black lives Matter is about black people looking to be treated equally to white people, women are looking to be treated equally to men ........not better than man.

Obviously things (in this side of the world anyway) are much better now for women but I don't think we're totally equal in regards to pay and job opportunities (and just look at all this Harvey Weinstein stuff to see how equal women are in Hollywood) And staying with Hollywood, the pay difference between Female and male actors. For example, last year (or maybe the year before, Scarlet Johanson was the highest grossing actor but she didn't even break the top 10 in wages

Wage gaps, the government (well at least here in America) making decisions about women's bodies (Anti-abortion laws, efforts to stop Planned Parenthood funding through Medicaid, etc.), likely hood of being sexually assaulted, Lack of leadership roles in certain fields (even though women are more likely to graduate college), shamed for being sexual active while men get praised/not judged as harshly

There's A LOT but that's some of the ones that i can think off the top of my head lol

Well you can call me stupid too i don't mind :D I wont get hurt :D And i do believe in equality, but not feminism :)

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here in Ireland we're only just having a referendum this summer to make abortion legal so there's alot of discussions about it on the media etc and guess what I'd say 90% of those ones shouting murder the loudest are men

Well as you've pointed out I'm a moderator so that would be against the rules of the forum, I'll let it slide this one time for you though :hee:

Seems like Ireland is backward place then. But it does not mean that whole europe is and all men are accused because of that.

Oh yes Ireland is the only place in Europe that has gender inequality mmm If it makes you feel better to think that lol

lol

good post

Except the wage gap isn't a myth, it's something that's been proven to exist time and time again.

The most powerful people in the country doesn't change things for the millions of other women in the country, leadership roles in most industries are still dominated by men, business is still mostly male dominated etc. There's more opportunities for men then there are women.

Sexual abuse can affect both sexes but women are still way more likely to be affected by it

Yes, all the sexual harassment business of the past year has just come down to cat calling. Good god. Sexual harassment is the pressurising of a person into a sexual situation, whether that be by unwanted advances or comments or leading a person into a sexual situation through false pretences. It's a problem, like with sexual assault, that women have to deal with way more than men.

I reject the idea that you are an egalitarian, why aren't you denouncing all the advantages men get in favour of pretending that feminism isn't needed when it obviously is just because you have a problem with the few advantage society allows women to have. It's the same argument that people have against Pride parades or Black History month.

Nothing you have said has really made me believe that you care about equality at all.

Ok last post I’ll make on this hungry af

A lot of the things mentioned aren’t feminist/sexism issues. The wage gap is debatable but the statistics usually are misleading and don’t account for other external factors. Sexual abuse is bad people doing bad things to other people, not men doing bad things to women. The current Hollywood situation is bad, but harvey weinstein is not all men, it is an issue but it’s not reflective of day to day life and all normal people; men get sexually abused a lot it’s just not talked about mainly because men are taught early on to reserve their feelings and not show emotion, because if they are they are laughed at, and I’ve never seen a feminist vouch for this issue hmm. Abortion is something women are voting on too it’s not just ‘men are impressing our bodies hngg’ and anyway on the flip side if aborting becomes illegal the individual carrying the baby can just give birth put the responsibility of the child on the father and make him pay all the expenses!!!

I mean we can go in circles debating feminism on a big brother forum but let’s just agree to disagree

Loving these smackdowns by Niamh

You go girl :clap1:

Yes it is.

Thank you. You too.