why just limit it to the UK? And no don't give me the "this is a British show" excuse. The celebrity edition of this show has housemates from all over the world.

Amanda teaches acceptance, Shane j demands acceptance

Indeed. Agree with every word.

Youre gonna lose your **** at Lgbtqqiaap

Finally a bit of sweetcorn in this cesspit

It's LGBT.

If we get silly and add Q and I, it might end with LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM being taken seriously :joker:

I think you may have had little insight into how it was in Amanda's early life.

There were gay women who came out like Dusty Springfield and Maggie Bell.

They did more for Gay rights in the 50/60s by being in the public eye and LGBT were nowhere so they do not have the monopoly on how it has become today.

I would gladly accept Amanda's concept of her Gay life but would run a mile at these activists who want to ramrod their views down people's throats. In my view they are turning people off rather than welcoming them.

They work on a shame agenda, if you are not with us, you are homophobic and I find this attitude far more destructive than building relations in the community.

Why because she doesn't shout about it from the roof tops every five minutes ? She is a credit to the gay community, just a lovely normal lady.

I get that what Shane did and they way he went about it were wrong, and Amanda saying Ann is not dictating her views is also true

But from what I interpreted from the show it seemed like Amanda was telling Shane he has no right to challange Ann's views rather than he has no right to bitch about her and gang up on them - that's all she had to say and it would be clear she made more sense
She's fine to accept Ann and like her for the person but saying that Shane has to do that as well

LGBTQ makes the most sense as Q is an umblress term for all others

:clap1: Shanes done their cause no good at all in fact set it back ,as all he's shown in the house is a demanding, self serving little twat

How can Shane be a role model when all he brags about is dressing up in drag to pull straight guys?

What "others" are there?

Agreed!

Amanda has turned into Ann's lapdog

Shane J is a perfect role model

People who identify as Anything other than Straight, Gay, Lesbian or bisexual

I've watched it back a couple times and I'm almost certain they're both having different arguments

Such as ... ? What else is there?

Totally disagree tbh. I have loads of gay mates and so many of them still find queer an insult.

Actually many of them also want the T removed, as T is nothing to do with sexuality where LGB obviously are.

Shane's way of educating is to shame and blame and by goodness doesn't he sulk when told to back off by Gays.

He has reverted to a nasty little sneak, who tittle tattles in corners to whoever will listen.

Since his love interest has left, he doesn't get the blind support, even Malika and Ashley were not on his side tonight and he sulked and sulked

He acts like a 6 year old when he is not the centre of attention. Some role model.

You're outdoing yourself, I'll give you that

So you agree that an 82 year old lesbian can not b seen as a role model?

No because she doesn’t shout ‘IM GAY’ everytime she walks in a room duh

A poor representation with a huge chip on his shoulder..lhe needs to lighten up and enjoy himself...live and let live.
Turned into a right little bitch tonight trying to get Ashley and Wayne turn on Ann....just like Malika trying to get Jess to turn on her. They both failed miserably...
I think Shane J is trying to get revenge for Andrew...but he is failing miserably.
3 gay people in the house and 2 of them like Ann despite any opinion she might have...what does that tell you.

She CAN be seen as a role model if she does the right things

It tells you people are more than their political standpoints and that people can find common ground and be friends despite different views, which is a great message that Amanda honed in on

By shouting she is gay from the rooftops?

What does she need to do? What rights are LGBT people missing?

A gay man has more rights then a woman

That's not quite what was said now is it but I think you know that perfectly well

Some realistic people are educated enough to realise a drag queen on a reality show would not be their first choice of educating them on anything.

So it could be said every woman HM who doesn't fight for women's rights is a bad female icon, regardless of how successful and intelligent she is

so what is the problem in coming out at an older age? she never felt the need to have a coming out party

Shane was loading Waynes gun hoping he would fire his bullets for him, is this what happened with Andrew ? was i right all along that Shane was the instigator ? He tried it with Amanda twice now and both times the gun has backfired, but tonight it turned into an assault weapon and shot him right up the arse

:clap1:

I actually did this reaction when Shane J moaned about Ann "disrespecting" him by not calling him courtney when he's in drag .

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Why do gay people have to be role models? If I was gay, I'd hate to feel as though I'm required to adjust my behaviour so as not to give people a reason to hate all gay people. We don't make generalisations about straight people based on one straight man or woman so I don't see why people who have entered the house and happen to be gay are constantly under fire for not setting a good enough example.

and dont forget in week one he said he did not care what name people call him


soon changed his tune when being called out by Ann


Problem with Shane is he just wants likes but the veil soon slips when people realise what is behind it...

Exactly !!

In SHANE'S OWN WORDS he has described Courtney as 'superficial' !

When HE is the one giving mixed messages - he can't expect others to be consistent !!

Shane isn't trying to educate. He is trying to isolate and incriminate her some of the very things a role model for a group who have been treated in the same way should never do.

Can people who don't give a **** about LGBT rights stop pretending they're activists.