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Oliver_W 20-02-2018 09:17 AM

The only people who would be "outraged" at this would be a small band of cat-collecting weirdos, and they get outraged at everything, so they can be ignored and not used as a consensus.

The strongest adverse reaction a normal/non-SJW person would have is "thanks for the support mate!" and then forget ten seconds later.

Marches 20-02-2018 09:28 AM

Apparently people actually were outraged she didn’t show her support lol ffs

Some of the comments I’ve read on twitter, including death threats, make me chuckle. Imagine wanting liberation and justice then inflicting stuff on others for not joining ur cult

And this metoo movement doesn’t even really make sense. Rape isn’t being unnoticed it’s just incredibly hard to prove we can’t just go around believing everyone who screams rape as a lot of people cry wolf

Oliver_W 20-02-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9881545)
And this metoo movement doesn’t even really make sense. Rape isn’t being unnoticed it’s just incredibly hard to prove we can’t just go around believing everyone who screams rape as a lot of people cry wolf

I think MeToo is meant to mostly be about "institutionalised" sexual harassment, such as only casting someone in a movie in exchange for sex, and people using their power to hide their misdeeds. It just gets drowned out by people including things like people saying words in the street, or dancing too close in a nightclub.

Marches 20-02-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9881764)
I think MeToo is meant to mostly be about "institutionalised" sexual harassment, such as only casting someone in a movie in exchange for sex, and people using their power to hide their misdeeds. It just gets drowned out by people including things like people saying words in the street, or dancing too close in a nightclub.

Yeah it’s original intention was good. Hollywood is fuked up. But now it’s become a bit of a witch hunt and things like this are just gonna scare men from dating lmao

GoldHeart 20-02-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Marches (Post 9881545)
Apparently people actually were outraged she didn’t show her support lol ffs

Some of the comments I’ve read on twitter, including death threats, make me chuckle. Imagine wanting liberation and justice then inflicting stuff on others for not joining ur cult

And this metoo movement doesn’t even really make sense. Rape isn’t being unnoticed it’s just incredibly hard to prove we can’t just go around believing everyone who screams rape as a lot of people cry wolf

I don't like the #me too campaign, any Tom dick and Harry can retweet that :bored:, and like you say many are falsely accusing people or just jumping on the bandwagon because that one time they felt they were "harassed" :facepalm: . Hardly the same as sexual abuse victims who have been traumatised .

Ammi 21-02-2018 07:03 AM

..I thought the Timesup movement was solidarity specifically within the entertainment business, which was why the wearing of black for those in the industry, which obviously was most people attending but not applying to Kate../..the Royal family..?...if she did wear a black ribbon around her dress specifically in support of, then that was something she didn’t have to do so credit to her, I think....that she found a way to ‘include herself’ in showing support and recognising the black dress code which the celebrities had decided on...

Ammi 21-02-2018 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9881311)
Erm..... they're the ones that started the movement love.

Time's Up is precisely about the film industry.

..oh Marsh just said that, the it’s specifically the entertainment industry..:laugh:...I need to read Marsh’s posts more...

Marches 21-02-2018 07:12 AM

Metoo is no longer about the entertainment industry if you looked at anything regarding this you’d know this by now.

Ammi 21-02-2018 07:26 AM

...they may be the same tree but they’re slightly different branches of..:laugh:...with Timesup being specifically about sexual misconduct in the entertainment industry is how I’ve understood it anyway...one is a ‘general’ and the other more specific focused...

Ammi 21-02-2018 07:28 AM

..actually #metoo isn’t a branch, it’s the actual tree...Timesup is a branch.../..I’m confusing myself now..:laugh:..

Alf 13-03-2018 02:47 PM

I don't see the #Metoo movement being very vocal about what's been happening in Telford.

I suspect these working-class girls are the wrong kind of victims, and the abusers are the wrong kind of perpetrators.

Tom4784 13-03-2018 02:52 PM

What does a movement focused on sexual abuses in Hollywood got to do with something that happened in Telford?

Niamh. 13-03-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9917466)
I don't see the #Metoo movement being very vocal about what's been happening in Telford.

I suspect these working-class girls are the wrong kind of victims, and the abusers are the wrong kind of perpetrators.

Someone call Meryl Streep :fist:

Alf 13-03-2018 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9917470)
What does a movement focused on sexual abuses in Hollywood got to do with something that happened in Telford?

I did say that they are the wrong kind of victims of sexual abuse.

Alf 13-03-2018 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9917472)
Someone call Meryl Streep :fist:

Considering she has a platform, that wouldn't be a bad idea.

Marsh. 13-03-2018 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9917473)
I did say that they are the wrong kind of victims of sexual abuse.

That's like asking why a charity aimed at the elderly in this country isn't focussed on a homeless old lady in Australia.

Niamh. 13-03-2018 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 9917479)
That's like asking why a charity aimed at the elderly in this country isn't focussed on a homeless old lady in Australia.

Exactly :laugh: but that seems to be the argument used alot (especially to do with feminism mostly in a what about the men context)

Marsh. 13-03-2018 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9917475)
Considering she has a platform, that wouldn't be a bad idea.

What about the millions of other incidents across the world? Does she need to be a voice for them all too or just the ones you feel she should be?

Alf 13-03-2018 03:25 PM

I seem to be the person that has done wrong here.

Niamh. 13-03-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9917492)
I seem to be the person that has done wrong here.

what do you mean?

Alf 13-03-2018 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9917494)
what do you mean?

Well 3 people have replied since my post and all 3 seem to be disagreeing with me.

Why can't the metoo movement get on the telly and call this out for what it is?

Niamh. 13-03-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9917503)
Well 3 people have replied since my post and all 3 seem to be disagreeing with me.

Why can't the metoo movement get on the telly and call this out for what it is?

Well because that's not exactly what the metoo movement was for, you could say why don't they come on telly and call out any number of things to try and minimise what their purpose was but you could say that about literally anything. Like why doesn't the dogs trust come out and speak about abused cats cos that's worse or why don't the fire service come go out on strike for nurses because they have worse conditions etc etc

Alf 13-03-2018 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9917509)
Well because that's not exactly what the metoo movement was for, you could say why don't they come on telly and call out any number of things to try and minimise what their purpose was but you could say that about literally anything. Like why doesn't the dogs trust come out and speak about abused cats cos that's worse or why don't the fire service come go out on strike for nurses because they have worse conditions etc etc

Well then fcuk the metoo movement. I couldn't give a shiney sh!te about some Hollywood sluts pimping themselves out for work. It's not as sickening as children as young as 11 being groomed, drugged, beaten, raped and killed. So maybe the next self awarding show they have, they could bring this up, because it's actually happening today.

By the way, what on Earth are you talking about with dogs and abused cats? Silly!

Marsh. 13-03-2018 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 9917530)
Well then fcuk the metoo movement. I couldn't give a shiney sh!te about some Hollywood sluts pimping themselves out for work. It's not as sickening as children as young as 11 being groomed, drugged, beaten, raped and killed. So maybe the next self awarding show they have, they could bring this up, because it's actually happening today.

By the way, what on Earth are you talking about with dogs and abused cats? Silly!

Well people tend to campaign to change things they can actually affect. The likes of Oprah Winfrey have the position and the power to change things within the industry she actually works.

What exactly she'd have to do with whatever is going on in Telford is beyond anyone.

Also there's always "worse" going on somewhere else, does that mean everyone should stop trying to progress and change things for the better wherever and however they can within their lives/careers/industries.

Time's Up is already a global movement about workplace abuse and sexism, not just within the film industry.

But something tells me you wouldn't be making these irrelevant comments about it had it been a male lead campaign. Calling them all "sluts" speaks volumes.


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