I dont think you can prevent school shootings, having teachers with guns is a deterrent and could save life's by shooting the kid with a gun.

Clearly the surviving victims of these shootings think otherwise

yes as do lots of other people but thats now how it works in a democracy

The University of Sydney, in a 2016 study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, found Australia hadn't experienced a fatal mass shooting — one in which five or more people are killed — since the 1996 shooting. In the 18 years prior, 1979-1996, there were 13 fatal mass shootings in Australia.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...did/340345002/

Those in favor of stricter gun legislation outnumber those opposed by a measure of more than two-to-one, according to the poll. Sixty-six percent of respondents said they would support more stringent laws, while just 31% said they would not. That’s the highest favorable percentage ever recorded by a Quinnipiac University National Poll, and a considerable increase from the 47% to 50% split measured in late 2015, according to an announcement from the school released Tuesday.

http://time.com/5167216/americans-gu...ort-poll-2018/

yeah how about no

But America was founded on the right to carry arms.

That is great to vote in a poll like that but its only their state legislators that can do anything about it

America was founded on a lot of terrible things :skull:

How is that an argument against whether gun laws would help against mass shootings? :/ There was no such thing as an assault rifle back when the USA was founded btw

I think the guns will already be there pet.....arm the teachers then that hero teacher coyld maybe have shot the shooter rather than have to put his body i the line of fire....anyway, im sure teachers have been listened to prior to any decision.

aren't they supposed to be democratic and do what the people want though? I thought that's what you said a minute ago :think:

i wouldn't feel that safe knowing that my teacher has a gun tbh

Unless they get an unhinged teacher on a bad day........sugarplum

Ifs and buts...what if guns were banned..will all the idiots hand them in...no course not....they will hoard them then walk into a school unchallenged breezing from room to room as everyone looks around for a gun that wont be there....8 mins later as the cops arrive......at least give tge kids a fighting chanxe fgs....do you have another idea?

That is obscenely ignorant I'm afraid. Because of how the American political system works, republicans have prevented anyone even having a vote on stricter laws, because the NRA basically owns them.

As for those plebes on the street, what is an appropriate protest to highlight fact they are getting shot while attending lessons in school?

!!!

How many of the people attending that particular protest has been shot at in lessons?

you don't have to experience it to know that it's wrong and protest it?

Ignorant...nah sorry..

Trump is up against exactly the same **** as the former presidents, yet here he is, inviting survivors and teachers to discuss and brainstorm...dont ever remember seeing that before..hes gonna make it harder to get guns...unlike the former presidents....


The plebs on the street would be better advised not to block ambulances on the way to save lives when they are protesting at the loss of life....yes, it would be more appropriate and less scummy not to block ambulances whilst protesting about saving lives.

Yes stricter gun laws

No a poll for Time is capitalism at work, choosing and petitioning your state legislator is democracy

Looks to me like thats what he is striving for.

A Poll represents what the public want, what the public want is democracy

I'll believe that when I see it tbh

That's because Obama had his meetings with the families by enforcing a press blackout.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video...=.6248fc3e9450

I hate posting that link, because I don't view the situation as a competition between trump and president Obama, but hopefully with more information, you'll be better informed.

Where has the blocking ambulances stuff come from? Were the kids on the street with the intention of blocking them or was it an accident? If it was an accident, do you believe any form of public protest, which is one of the tenets of free speech should be allowed?

Is this a serious question?

Only people directly affected by issues have the right to stand against them?

No accident...protestors waving others into the path of the ambulance as other protestors cheer and clap if they aint filming on thier phones....have a look, get yourself better informed.

You see, I'm not impervious to outside information. If this is true, then I agree that's not a good thing to do and they should be prosecuted.

Have you got a link?

Have you looked at the link that I provided to you?

Yeah i looked...not sure what a meeting with grieving families would achieve without teachers being there but still..it was behind closed doors so i guess we will never know.

Trump needed a cheat sheet to remind him to show empathy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWnbuEwW0AA7HHK.jpg

I don't know how many fatalities there has to be before America admit the problem, my guess is many more.

When I worked in the States in 97 there was a fatal murder suicide of a lifeguard at the community pool by her steriod addled boyfriend with a legally owned gun in front of families and young children. It was awful, there was outcry, kids were traumatised and most people reacted by further arming themselves. One guy told me he had bought a higher powered gun as the one he had would just make a gunman more pissed off if he shot him with it. For most Americans they believe it is their right to bear arms and so they do....how anyone would begin to tackle the problem there is beyond me.

Pathetic and boring...bye bye.:wavey:

That is extremely depressing.....

I'm not arguing , it does not matter if weapons have evolved people will not give up their weapons, my brother has family in Texas on his wife's side they have said they hide their weapons if any law was ever passed to limit them.

Whats more depressing is that becoming the story....pathetic.

I wonder... is he heartless and demented or just demented? :shrug:

maybe both :hehe:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWnbuEwW0AA7HHK.jpg

why has he got Neems age on his cuff?

Well yeah why can’t a trained teacher have the means to protect herself and her class instead of letting them get shot or attacked?

But ykno **** trump