the point being that Kizzy is blaming the tories, while london has a labour mayor currently in charge that is in control of the budget for housing homeless people

I do but I am working so haven't time to be at your beck and call Kizzy, might post later if I feel like it

Then I guess we're lucky there's no homelessness anywhere else?

Kahn is a joke of a mayor, but he can't take all the blame for homelessness in London.

Did you read my reply to you?... The issue is a reduction in CENTRAL government funding.
Sadiq Kahn is not in control of that is he ... it doesn't answer why the reduction since 2010 nor does it explain the reduction in every other borough in the UK bar one.

Please stop deflecting the issue...

Then why bother at all until you have the time to read and understand my point?
Forgive me if I don't hold my breath :)

Please don't dictate the length or content of my posts Kizzy

I questioned it... this is a debate forum. You're not over a barrel to respond though, don't worry about it.

im not deflecting the issue. Kahn has a huge budget, if he wanted to improve the plight of the homeless he could. He has chosen not to. Perhaps check the details of whats actually going on before you post nonsense blaming the conservatives, when labour are in a position to do something about it.

It's not nonsense there has been a reduction in government funding, and yes the budget may be large but London is a large area, if he restricted other services imagine the outcry :/

Every borough could rob peter to pay paul in that sense gowever how would that resolve anything and how does it address the initial issue of central govt funding reductions?...

Are you going to address that point or continue to post nonsense about the London mayor?... As I said this is a UK wide problem.

You do understand that this is a clickbait article to trigger you and that the only source it came from is some charity with an axe to grind

because it seems as if you dont?

:shrug:

Considering the SOURCE of the 'article' and the 'LEFT WING' political BIAS of that source, it is NO BIG SURPRISE that 'Nowhere in the article' does it mention IMMIGRATION' and THEREFORE, such an omission is certainly NO VALID REBUTTAL of anything which any member on here has to say about immigration being a CONTRIBUTORY factor in any homeless 'crisis'.

LT is 1,000% CORRECT - you are basing your 'argument' on a 'Click-Bait' article that does not mean ZILCH as far as any genuine 'Premise' is concerned.

It is also highly presumptuous and WRONG to declare that ANYONE is 'fixated' on 'IMMIGRATION' just because they may mention it as a 'CONTRIBUTORY FACTOR' because LOGICALLY and OBVIOUSLY it is a contributory factor.

In fact, it is those who WILL NOT CONCEDE any type of link between IMMIGRATION and a rise in this country's HOUSING Crisis and HOMELESS problem who have a 'fixation' and are 'Pushing' their 'Agenda' - and that is a 'fixation' on being perpetually in a state of 'Denial' about FACTS which DO NOT support their 'Argument'.

I really would rather you didn't waffle... I can't get to the crux of what your point is due to your odd posting style.

Immigration has nothing to do with the reduction in council funding, it did not remove the ring fencing at either. The funding streams are distinct, being two very different departments with very different requirements.

Whatever the source the reduction in funding since 2010 remains a fact, wherever it's reported that figure will not change. You can ague with me, or what you deem to be a left wing source, but you can't argue with the figures, they remain constant.

It is a valid and reasonable debate for this section I'm not however forcing anyone to participate, I feel LT s comments were unnecessary and invalid and not worthy of response, whether you do or not is of no consequence to me.

You are the one who is pushing an agenda here, should you wish to discuss immigration be my guest however please don't force the issue on a thread specifically created to question the government and their failings to adequately fund resources for the homeless.

And YOU accuse ME of WAFFLING?

Four clear sentences Kirk, that's all.

Who said there wouldn’t be a problem but we don’t want an even bigger one. The presence of those who have no right being here means what there is even less help to go round for those that do.

Yes, but immigration aside, what's your solution to homelessness?

I don’t have one but I do know we shouldn’t allow illegal immigrants to add to the problem or assist them in their illegal actions.

2 and 3/4 of a million visas issued last year alone...all probably needing housed.

Nonsense Parmy, 80% of those are for short stay visits and another 8% are students (not eligible for housing and will use Uni residence or rent privately).

Universities receive far more applications from overseas applicants for postgraduate study than they do for Home students, mainly because many Home students go aboard so they get their Masters for free, Overseas students are far more lucrative for universities as the fees are 3 times that of a Home/EU, short term study visas will only allow students to stay just over the teaching block, usually 2 weeks.

Ok..:fist:

I thought Scotland was underpopulated

Thats still about 270 thousand people to find housing for.

maybe way up north of scotland is still some space left :fan:

Not every homeless person is a foreigner though, or are we suppose to not help out British civilians either? After all I'd rather the Taxpayer pay to help out homeless people get homes than on how much sugar, people intake personally but maybe I'm the crazy one and the Tories are sane.:joker: