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Macie Lightfoot 24-08-2018 05:42 PM

Were they though

JoshBB 24-08-2018 05:51 PM

Bear, Helen, and Marc are all vile housemates imo. I'm not a Natalie stan but personally I don't think shes anywhere near their level of dislikability.

Maru 24-08-2018 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 10168400)
They're all paid provocateurs (and likely sociopaths) serving the interests of production. The difference is that the guys were more charming, and a lot stronger personalities. I've seen Natalie get chased out of a room by a 67 year old woman, and get visibly flustered when the guys put her in her place during nominations. She's only really able to upset the young girls. When you watch her make a basic statement, and inexplicably laugh at what she's just said in an effort to raise a smile out of the person she's talking to, that's her attempt to be charming. She just doesn't have it. She's taken it upon herself to ask invasive questions of the other HMs, but this has backfired for the producers because she's so inept and ham-fisted that even the 'aspiring celebrities' (to use a polite term) don't want to talk about themselves while she's there.

Natalie is completely out of her depth in the role they've cast her in.

I agree with this. I do think she has some minor entertainment factor, but it is a very shallow form of entertainment without nothing else to go on beyond a veneer... I don't consider her to be talented at all. I think she has some basic acting skills, but for the most part, can't do much with her fellow HMs aside from scream and yell with no script... she's terrible at baiting as well... unless like you say, she's going after the insecure folk who are easily triggered by any harsh opinion.

I will say her opinion of celebrity was rather enlightening. She seems to have a shallow definition of that as well... I think without social media, she wouldn't even be in the house... making nasty commentary about other people in "the business" is the only way she can remain relevant... but she's desperate to be validated by her supposedly 'non-celebrity' peers, which is quite funny. Basically she's upset that she's not good enough since look at her castmates...

kirklancaster 24-08-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10168230)
Intrigued at this point to hear what sets them apart and why Marc/Helen/Bear drained their series of entertainment value and Natalie supposedly isn't?

Of course there have been good series with overbearing personalities being terrible people: Tiffany, Gemma, Kim, Charley, Nikki... the difference is they were at least funny. What stand-out moments does Natalie have? What quotes are there? All I'm hearing is noise and a god complex of "everyone's fake but me". Which is exactly what Bear did :shrug:

Edit: and before anyone accuses me of coming for Natalie's fans, this question works both ways :eyes: why are there so many Bear/Helen fans taking issue with her?

GREAT point, Shaun - I could not stand Bear either. :laugh:

kirklancaster 24-08-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dash Darington (Post 10168400)
They're all paid provocateurs (and likely sociopaths) serving the interests of production. The difference is that the guys were more charming, and a lot stronger personalities. I've seen Natalie get chased out of a room by a 67 year old woman, and get visibly flustered when the guys put her in her place during nominations. She's only really able to upset the young girls. When you watch her make a basic statement, and inexplicably laugh at what she's just said in an effort to raise a smile out of the person she's talking to, that's her attempt to be charming. She just doesn't have it. She's taken it upon herself to ask invasive questions of the other HMs, but this has backfired for the producers because she's so inept and ham-fisted that even the 'aspiring celebrities' (to use a polite term) don't want to talk about themselves while she's there.

Natalie is completely out of her depth in the role they've cast her in.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Superb. Hit the nail squarely on the head.

Elliot 24-08-2018 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10168942)
I'm glad you can see into the future

Thx call me sally


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