Rape, murder and psychopathy are serious matters, as much as domestic abuse is. It's not something to toss around as an insult willy nilly. Helen intimidated people at the drop of a hat, vindicated and dragged out issues against people, yelled abuse at certain people even while they were shaking on the verge of tears, a vile bully.

Roxanne falsely declared someone beat her up when they didn't and made a tit of herself within 24 hours. A panto cretin

She only said it once. And why?

Because for the 3rd time that week, Brian was AGAIN standing over her, shouting abuse about her being 'vile and disgusting', while he was being physically restrained by other male HMs.

She had not bullied him once. He was bullying her.

She had every right to retaliate to his disgusting verbal abuse and physically threatening behaviour with whatever words she wanted.

Nothing about that scenario, neither Brian's intimidation or Helen's reaction to it compares to Roxanne's calculated attempts to take someone down for real.

Get some perspective.

Sums it all up really

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Ok let’s not try and convince ourselves Brian is some psycho rapist now,,

yes to potentially ruin a career and get an innocent man jail time?

wow

lets all stan coz she caused drama

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she is a dangerous devious sociopath who needs locking up to protect men

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Not even comparable at all..

He isn't. I always loved him til that weird series.

But on that day, from Helen's perspective, his behaviour was very intimidating and scary.

This

She said it three times in a row followed by 'BRIAN KEEP PLAYING INTO MY HANDS.'

He wasn't standing over her to abuse her, they had a task where you had to assign a housemate as an answer to a harsh question and you had to stand up. He only shouted abuse at her after she told him to get a straightjacket, nasty **** should've been more abused by him she got off lightly

Helen abused him calling saying he looked like a murderer and rapist while he sat shaking not doing anything. An actual bully, Roxanne was just a manipulator.

I'm not even defending Roxanne but to drag Hel(l)en in as a saint is an utterly pointless thing to include in this thread

"Panto" is not what you would call her actions if her accusations were directed toward yourself.

Right but didn't Helen say “You can’t tell me what to do. Your friend can *********g die for all I care" in reference to Victor, and also called him a cokehead? A tad vile

Oh and no matter what Brian did it doesn't justify what Helen said about Brian lmao. It gives reason yes but she shouldn't be excused because Brian was rattled by Helen

And also comments aimed at Epic saying "Psycho" is against the rules... it's best to avoid name-calling if you want your point to stand ground (especially when defending Helen Wood in regards to her name-calling and comments)

Wasn't talking of her actions, was talking more of the portrayal and how quickly she was destroyed

1. They both had beef. But Brian went beyond the verbal: he needed physical restraint by Danny etc while he delivered his angry tirade at her.

2. No one has insulted any forum member, or called them a psycho in this thread that i can see. I don't get what you mean by that.

1. He was restrained because Danny didn't want him to lose his temper and calm him down, he wasn't anywhere near Helen

2. I was called a psycho in the form of a Helen Wood gif

1. what Epic said

2.

I think it was pretty obvious my gif was used jokingly?

Straight jackets in storeroom

I'd like to sleep in the spare room

1. He was only a few feet away, shouting, pointing, insulting with 2 people (at least) holding him back. It's not a good look.

2. I see what you mean, i didn't get the gif.

It didn't come across that way when you're telling Epic to he 'really' needs to get his head checked

Well apologies for the misunderstanding

obvs

You know me babes I'm honest and loyal

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I mean helens vile but her and roxy are two different beasts entirely?
Helen was more brute and honest with her more vile demeanour. Screaming and antagonising people 24/7, forming cliques and bullying people in the most obvious ways possible. Hurling horrible insults like cokehead or rapist, but that’s what they were. Insults. In roxannes case stuff like woman beater were real accusations that she was willing to go through the leg room to do something about. She was vile in a more ominous and sneaky sense. She was willing to put on fronts and be more dishonest to do bad things, whereas Helen was willing to be honest that she was a vile bitch that made everyone uncomfortable. Not to mention Rox was playing with delicate situations too like domestic assault, and her conviction extended further than the big brother house as this apparently wasn’t the first time she pulled something like this.

Helen was more like getting hit with a bat, Roxanne is more like a slow acting poison.

You adored her...a great villain wasn't she?....that sort of behaviour is not even for celebration...you should be ashamed for idolising her...shame on you.

Yeah I'm not ashamed at all. I watch to be entertained and she entertained me so look down your nose all you want your opinion of me is totally irrelevant as usual but attack away for brownie points :hee:

Great villains don't quit

Roxanne rewriting the laws of super villainy!

This is embarassing to be honest

Me at this tea

https://uploadir.com/u/astas96a

No one can deny that they've been hooked the past episodes because of our evil cow rox

https://uploadir.com/u/astas96a

I can get that you were entertained by it.....but do you think what she did what wrong? Not having a pop, just curious

The difference is though she didn’t accuse Brian of rape or murder? She said he was a psycho (which I’m pretty sure most people have used off the cuff to refer to others). Brian was literally stood saying she had no class and calling her a tramp (are you forgetting he was pretty aggressive as well?) i’ll never get the notion that Helen bullied Brian. It was pretty 50/50, except Brian couldn’t take what he dished out to Helen.

And not only that, I'm pretty sure all of us have said some pretty awful things while angry in the heat of the moment.

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It would seem by her other comments that she doesn't believe it's wrong