Sally's comment was borderline racist, but Hardeep knew that.

Hardeep saw the opportunity to 'trigger' a housemate, cos that's what he 's been doing... then walking away and let the chaos ensue.


Does everyone remember Aaron and Faye from BBUK12 ?

Hardeep is following Aarons strategy of … inciting....letting chaos ensue ...then apologising


Its all done on purpose, Hardeep played them.

However, Hardeep using the race card is deceitful

so both Sally and Hardeep did wrong

Just because no one in the house thought Sally was being racist, it doesn't mean they were right. They are just a very small handful of people.

And just because Hardeep rescinded his comments, and apologised, doesn't mean it wasn't racist or that he didn't feel on the receiving end of racism. Sometimes, when you feel that everyone is against you and that you are banging your head against a brick wall, it is easier and simpler to give in, just to keep the peace, particularly when you are contained within a very limited space.

What you have not addressed is the intent to be racist.

Hardeep has violated every other housemates space with his breaking wind, rudeness and racist allegations.

If an unmeaning remark can be judged racist, then Hardeep is just as guilty at times with his many nasty jibes at white men.

Yet not one of them has made as much about his colour as he has himself. In fact they have bent over backwards not to exclude him, yet it was he who would walk off after dropping insults.

He insulted their intelligence constantly, yet an unthinking careless remarks got called out for being "borderline racist"

I have addressed intent in previous posts, so didn't want to repeat.

Ironically, I am not a Hardeep fan, and agree with you that he has been too heavy and intense when it comes to racism, sexism, etc. I do believe that, on many occasions, he has chosen to play devil's advocate just to trigger a reaction in others, and I can understand why housemates might find this annoying.

I also find him a little self-pitying and insincere at times.

However, I do believe he was right in referring to Sally's comments as borderline racist. There have just been too many examples of it. Obviously, none of us can get inside Sally's mind in order to know her intent, so all any of us can do is give our own impressions and interpretations of her motives.

I'm not going to repeat previous posts- where my reasons are explained- but my impression is that Sally's comments have undertones of racism.

It was based on initial "use thing on your head as bandaging" which hard to believe Sally didn t realise that was offensive before she said it, as i ve said in my new thread. Also i ve said, it must have been hard for him to trust her anyway after her completely turning about the intention behind his supportive bunion remark and plotting off back of it for days before.

Sally all the way. Hardeep playing the race card ao glad hes out

more on Hadeep side than Sally though i think both handled it wrong in different ways. what im more baffled by is how everyone doesnt get that someone saying something racist/borderline racist isnt saying they are racist. they just didnt want to hear that part from him. its like they never heard of ignorance.

i was on sallys side (nothing she said was racist or "borderline" lol) till she erupted in tears and tried to make a meal of it, they were both acting the fool, i think hardeep responded well when Kirstie called him out on the
dropping bombs and the leaving part'

Yes she was, and off the back of what she said about his turban I can see why he was upset, she has friends of all religion but doesnt know what a turban is?

Exactly, she knew exactly what she was doing by disrespecting his religion

Hardeep is right that a pattern has emerged of Sally making dubious comments. She might not have meant them maliciously in which case she should have realised that she'd upset and offended someone and apologised for it, instead she went ott defensive with her 'I'm not having it' screeching. In the end it's her demanding an apology from Hardeep when it should have been the other way round

I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.

Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.

Vile woman.

I agree with you and yes she did say "You're too brown" then lied that she had said it

Maybe Hardeep should have let it slide, but if someone feels offended, the person who offended them should apologize. Sally was wrong. Sally is the one who blew it out of proportion.

It hurts me to say it because I didn't like Hardeep as a housemate but it was never because of race. Sally is very calculating and sneaky, I've massively gone off her. I can't believe I voted for her against Hardeep, I never would have had I known she is in fact a closet racist.

I was 2 ways with Hardeep one minute hated him then next minute felt really sorry for him as they did ostracise him ,but he was right about Sally ,she's an awful woman

Sally is a horrible person and a fraud, but I am not sure about racist.

Hardeep would insult them and walk off and sit by himself. Many times it was shown how they went and spoke to him to get involved.

Hardeep chose to isolate himself, he bragged about upsetting them as he thought he was being clever. He was his own worst enemy many times.

He even said white housemates were the KKK how's that for a racist remark but they didn't take umbrage with him.

Dunno about racism, but she is at the very least racially ignorant as most people would know that if you don't know what a turban is, never under any circumstance tell a Sikh person about 'the thing on their head.' And as far as fraudulence goes, she absolutely used that to her advantage last night. Notice how within a matter of seconds of her being upset the housemates ended up ALL taking turns having a disagreement with Hardeep. She knew she'd be safe with her backup and I hope she gets what's coming from the crowd tomorrow night

Yes I agree he was his own worst enemy a lot of the time, but all the backstabbing about him from them ALL apart from Nick who stayed nuetral was awful

The KKK thing was disgusting and I slaughtered him for saying it, but all in all I think he had a hard ride in there all down to Sally stirring the pot due to her hatred of him

:clap1: Sally was the ring leader

I voted Sally but now I think about it I think they both extremely overreacted !

Show me ANY middle-aged woman who does NOT know what a Turban is and what it is called, and I will show you a woman who MUST have lived in splendid isolation in a cave since she was 5 years old.

Ignore Sikhism, the Turban has been a highly recognised FASHION item for women since women started adorning their heads:


MIDDLE-AGED SALLY MORGAN IS A LIAR.

Hardeep he had every right to be upset

Hardeep, that comment was borderline

Exactly this. Anyone who lives in the UK and claims not to know what a turban is called is flat out lying.

Although I can't stand Sally I was on her side before they showed the remark about the turban. That was extremely offensive and I wish Hardeep had pulled her up on that there and then.

By kicking off the following day and walking out of the room he did himself no favours.

Hardeep is always looking for racist comments.

If you said to him at tea, 'please pass the brown sauce', he'd think you were being racist.

He's a pain in the botty.

Sihks fought in the war for the UK and to dismiss his turban as it it were a mere rag and she did not know what it was called was racism pure and simple


lets face facts - she and her husband dont like brown people, or gay people

end of

I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.

Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...

And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.

So what though? Unless he follows everything to the letter it doesn't count or?

So true, we owe Sikhs a lot, they are a proud people who stood side by side with us during the war

Yes I agree on the vile couple .. Birds of a feather and all that !!

Here you go, Gusto - from 'GoSikh':

"I want to use this space and share what my Turban means to me. While I have always been a Sikh as long as I have existed, I learn more about my religion, my faith each passing day.

Everyday,
I wear my Turban as a mark of Respect to my elders and the Gurus.
I wear my Turban with Dignity
I wear my Turban as a Tribute to the Gurus
I wear my Turban to pray for all the Sikhs who have sacrificed their lives so we can have a better one
I wear my Turban with Pride to show to the world that I am Proud to be a Sikh
I wear my Turban as a sign of a humble creation of God.
I wear my Turban so I can find another in the crowd.
I wear my Turban because it is part of me and I would not have it any other way.

Turban is a valuable and sacred piece of cloth (many meters in length) that Sikh Men and Women use to cover their Kesh (Hair).

A Turban is supposed to be untied and tied daily and the Turban deserves the highest respect and should be placed in a respectable place in the house.

Many religions and cultures require their followers to wear a Turban or a head covering. Sikhs cover their head with a Turban."

Actually, look a little more closely and you will see that he has his hair tied up in a little bun on the back of his head.

:clap1:

Turban is known to everyone unless they're brainless .

The only other idiot who didn't call it a turban was Roxanne who called it a "hat" :facepalm: ,but as we all know Roxanne is a nutter anyway .

I thought these were pictures of other psychics :joker:

(Edit) I wouldn't have thought it was religious dress. Only once or twice I've seen anyone with a turban? So I wasn't aware it was anything but a cultural practice... we do see people use those headdresses though in costumes in performance art... so maybe she thought it was more akin to the predecessors to her line of work? :laugh:

Rewatched this the other day, what a horrible malicious liar this woman was to twist things to make the whole house gang up on him. At one point she even laughs "Ha I never even mentioned his color BROWN :rolleyes: " :skull:

Aaah Sally was a legend

Hardeep stays WINNING