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Mokka 11-09-2018 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl (Post 10217959)
An opinion can’t be wrong though xD

Sure it can. Racism is an opinion... Hitler had some pretty wrong opinions... thinking Trump is great is a wrong opinion...not liking Muriel's wedding....obviously wrong opinion.

kirklancaster 11-09-2018 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10218509)
Sure it can. Racism is an opinion... Hitler had some pretty wrong opinions... thinking Trump is great is a wrong opinion...not liking Muriel's wedding....obviously wrong opinion.



:laugh2:

Mokka 11-09-2018 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10218510)
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:laugh2:

I was playing to my audience with that one :wink:

kirklancaster 11-09-2018 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10218511)
I was playing to my audience with that one :wink:

:laugh:

DouglasS 11-09-2018 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sullen Girl (Post 10217959)
An opinion can’t be wrong though xD

It can. People can have an opinion that hitler is great and a hero - that is a wrong opinion.

Just like Roxanne deserving to win more than Ryan.

Twosugars 11-09-2018 07:44 AM

threads like this are a symptom of the trend to see everything in terms of entertainment (in the form of drama in this case).
accepted thing when talking about fiction (a villain in film etc) but now freely extended to reality tv
uncomfortable imo, bc we're talking about real people
Roxanne created a lot of drama and suspense, but her problems are real, she's not a character written, acted and discarded, there's a real tragedy of a disturbed mind behind her "entertainment"
the same with Ryan, ok, a pillock, but a pillock who could have been ruined
and it's not just tv, it happens closer to home, on the forum for example
a delusional fm claiming to be god is seen as a scream, entertainment, value for money
where do we draw a line? do we draw it at all?
would a murder in bb house be also seen as entertainment? how about a fm attempting suicide online?
tbh, with this line of thinking, Idk anymore :shrug:

Gusto Brunt 11-09-2018 08:08 AM

Err, no.

GoldHeart 11-09-2018 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10218574)
threads like this are a symptom of the trend to see everything in terms of entertainment (in the form of drama in this case).
accepted thing when talking about fiction (a villain in film etc) but now freely extended to reality tv
uncomfortable imo, bc we're talking about real people
Roxanne created a lot of drama and suspense, but her problems are real, she's not a character written, acted and discarded, there's a real tragedy of a disturbed mind behind her "entertainment"
the same with Ryan, ok, a pillock, but a pillock who could have been ruined
and it's not just tv, it happens closer to home, on the forum for example
a delusional fm claiming to be god is seen as a scream, entertainment, value for money
where do we draw a line? do we draw it at all?
would a murder in bb house be also seen as entertainment? how about a fm attempting suicide online?
tbh, with this line of thinking, Idk anymore :shrug:

Things are always taken too far in the name of "entertainment" it's also crazy how fickle things become . It's acknowledged Roxanne was manipulative, nasty and dangerous & there was sympathy for Ryan but now it's as if Roxanne is being praised for being one of the worst housemates in CBB history and for causing the biggest storm , and some seem to think she's saved CBB :facepalm: which is utterly ridiculous.

There's nothing funny or entertaining about a spiteful compulsive liar trying to break & destroy another person . Also if she has mental issues then that makes it even worse if her actions are seen as "good tv" .

I know people get drawn into car crash tv and crazy individuals & game players as it get's high rating and get's people interested . But this is beyond that when you get someone who is such a disturbed scheming mess .

And it usually seems like the more delusional & unstable someone acts it gets more attention. People like to feed into that for whatever reason whether it gives them a good laugh or they find it amusing or fascinating . Also they probably like trying to figure out if the person is being serious or whether it's one big trolling stunt.

We have definitely got to the stage where reality tv & it's cast members are treated like they're in a drama /soap. Even with how things are recorded and edited it can be seen like a fictional show . Maybe people get so caught up as viewers in the whole controversy and going ons on their screens that they forget that this is REAL LIFE with producers pulling the strings . it's not the same as a scripted sitcom and liking Chandler from friends & disliking Janice from friends as they're both fictional characters.

I find it very questionable & baffling if Roxanne still has fans & support , but they'll always be some who will agree with her or feel sorry for her . Must be a very small fraction though.

Looks like hunger games & battle royale isn't so crazy as the line in real life keeps getting pushed further & further in the name of "entertainment".

Elliot 11-09-2018 08:29 AM

People are acting like it’s only now the entertainment line is getting blurred when there are multiple examples in history of stuff far more barbaric than this, even people killing eachother

Paula D 11-09-2018 08:41 AM

I worry about the sanity of people on here sometimes, seriously. :nono:

Twosugars 11-09-2018 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10218611)
People are acting like it’s only now the entertainment line is getting blurred when there are multiple examples in history of stuff far more barbaric than this, even people killing eachother

like ancient rome and gladiators or christians thrown to lions?
sure
but I'd hope we have moved on from that? maybe not :shrug:

Northern Monkey 11-09-2018 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10218487)
Roxanne actually got a few votes in the nomination with Chloe & Hardeep , so yeah the housemates were getting tired of her fake acting and noisy behaviour.

Everything she did prior to Punch gate was PURE CRINGE! , there was nothing genuine or normal. From launch she was too aware of the camera's and from then on she didn't relax but she continued to "perform" as she's an attention seeker desperate for the air time.


The whole theatrics of her going down the stairs on launch night was embarrassing & dragged on , she knew everyone would be talking about it so she made the most of that little moment . Rubbing her top was bizarre and made her look loopy from then. The whole timid frantic rabbit in headlights got tired quick.

And notice how she was scared of Natalie and behaved like a nervous wreck around her . Then when Natalie goes we see this more loud irritating side to Roxanne . She became more needy and was all over Ben like a rash.

She was the only violent nutter in that house with those hard punches she threw on Ben .

So clearly we've gone into the twilight zone if people think Roxanne deserves to win anything let alone winning CBB .

And this clip just shows what a bully & harasser she is herself! , she wouldn't leave these people alone! . She's disturbed in the head & thrives off attention. Even here she's trying to twist things to make others look bad :crazy::facepalm:.


She lost me at “You need to educate yourself morally” :joker:


Oh and “I’m a human being” was abit of a stretch tbh.

Marsh. 11-09-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10218524)
It can. People can have an opinion that hitler is great and a hero - that is a wrong opinion.

Just like Roxanne deserving to win more than Ryan.

But that opinion being wrong is only an opinion in itself. Not a fact. :smug:

Marsh. 11-09-2018 11:54 AM

As for Roxy's accent.

It's the typical regular accent mixed in with pretentious actor voice.

Not that she's any good at acting. She was wooden in Emmerdale and very stilted in BB which made her a big fat fake the second she stepped out of that car.

Patricia4 11-09-2018 11:57 AM

No never

GoldHeart 11-09-2018 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10218710)
She lost me at “You need to educate yourself morally” :joker:


Oh and “I’m a human being” was abit of a stretch tbh.

She's Such a deluded insufferable idiot! . I hated hearing her repeat "relevant" ,she sounded like a broken record :crazy: . She wants respect yet treats others like dirt , all she's done in that video is embarrass herself,and It's more evidence to prove she's nasty . Apparently those guys never said anything bad to start with ,yet she overreacted and decided to film them AGAINST their wishes .

montblanc 11-09-2018 04:24 PM

no :skull:

Pink Panther 11-09-2018 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10218506)
I thought she was originally from Leeds but then noticed it says on her CBB profile cumbria which is still in the north , but the way she pronounces things would make even northerners question what she's saying! .

But everything about her voice and tone is aggravating & stupid , especially in that video clip on the train . Those people should of just point BLANK IGNORED her !!! , it's like feeding a parasite to give her anymore attention by responding :bored:

And the train conductor or whoever works on the train should of told her to SIT DOWN and shut up ! .

What is the train incident?

GoldHeart 11-09-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink Panther (Post 10219279)
What is the train incident?

Panther where you been i posted the video already :rolleyes: :joker:

But here it is again for you


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