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ThriceShy 16-09-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10231230)
Correct me if i'm wrong but the **** the pope and the IRA are much more recent ??

You wan't somebody ejected for saying "**** the pope"?

Why?

Crimson Dynamo 16-09-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10231230)
Correct me if i'm wrong but the **** the pope and the IRA are much more recent ??

Is she a bluenose?


:flutter:



what a girl

and i agree with both those sentiments and so should everyone

hijaxers 16-09-2018 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10231233)
You wan't somebody ejected for saying "**** the pope"?

Why?

No i don't but this is what they are using as reasons. I don't give a toss.

Vicky. 16-09-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10231230)
Correct me if i'm wrong but the **** the pope and the IRA are much more recent ??

Erm, the IRA stuff yeah, but what on earth is wrong with saying **** the pope? Yeah its not very nice, but its a fairly common thought, especially among people who aren't religious! Might be missing something like

y.winter 16-09-2018 05:29 PM

Is it still happening? :joker:

bots 16-09-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10231276)
Erm, the IRA stuff yeah, but what on earth is wrong with saying **** the pope? Yeah its not very nice, but its a fairly common thought, especially among people who aren't religious! Might be missing something like

It's religious hate coming from a sectarian who also supports rangers.

Jack_ 16-09-2018 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Germyle (Post 10231135)
I believe her firing will be more justified than Salmans

mess was he fired over what happened on here

Vicky. 16-09-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10231286)
It's religious hate coming from a sectarian who also supports rangers.

Again what does this have to do with anything?!

My father in law supports Rangers...didn't realise that was a bad thing D:

Tregard 16-09-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10231276)
Erm, the IRA stuff yeah, but what on earth is wrong with saying **** the pope? Yeah its not very nice, but its a fairly common thought, especially among people who aren't religious! Might be missing something like

Sectarianism is not something which should be tolerated.

BBDodge 16-09-2018 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10231102)
She might have to downgrade to Burger King now :worry:

https://i.imgflip.com/rmje3.jpg

bots 16-09-2018 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10231292)
Again what does this have to do with anything?!

My father in law supports Rangers...didn't realise that was a bad thing D:

Are you not familiar with the sectarianism between Rangers and Celtic that mirrors the troubles in Northern Ireland?

Sectarianism is religious hate, just based on a persons religion and nothing else. One of the tweets she posted was .... who is going to be sectarian today ... with a picture of a man clapping

ThriceShy 16-09-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10231305)
Are you not familiar with the sectarianism between Rangers and Celtic that mirrors the troubles in Northern Ireland?

Sectarianism is religious hate, just based on a persons religion and nothing else. One of the tweets she posted was .... who is going to be sectarian today ... with a picture of a man clapping

You think she should be ejected and sacked for that?:conf:

GoldHeart 16-09-2018 06:00 PM

If she loses her job ,again it's her own stupid fault .

They always advise people who want a job not to post offensive stuff as employers can view them , even if she wasn't in big brother this could of still come back to bite her on her bum .

Facebook is another one people should be wary of ,your boss and colleagues can see everything .

Vicky. 16-09-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10231305)
Are you not familiar with the sectarianism between Rangers and Celtic that mirrors the troubles in Northern Ireland?

Sectarianism is religious hate, just based on a persons religion and nothing else. One of the tweets she posted was .... who is going to be sectarian today ... with a picture of a man clapping

Not really. Not something I have ever looked into before :S

joeysteele 16-09-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10231131)
..this is where BB have to take some responsibility for things like this as well...if they had done some basic checks into things like housemate’s tweets, all basic things that are available to the public so easily as this seemed to have been with Ellis....?...then they could have made the decision to not put her into the house and not revealed why...and nothing would have impacted onto her personal life in such a way...

This, totally for me.
Really unfortunate for Ellis.

Denver 16-09-2018 06:28 PM

Anyway as someone who use to work in McDonald's it is written in the controls you can be sacked for disrespecting thecompnay on social media and as she hasn't done that she could definitely she them were they to sack her

Gstar 16-09-2018 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10231289)
mess was he fired over what happened on here

No, he dropped oil on the floor and didn’t clean it up. A hazardous, clumsy bitch

storybrooke 16-09-2018 06:46 PM

I feel bad for her if she could lose her job over this, I know age is no excuse for saying these sort of things but still.. Hope things work out alright

Robodog 16-09-2018 07:02 PM

Whole lives ruined just for saying/thinking the wrong thing.

Slippery slope?...

Today, this punishment is for people who make rude comments about women/blacks/muslims/jews/LGBT people.

It's done under the guise of 'protecting minorities'. That's how it starts.

Tomorrow that punishment will get extended to include negative comments about everyone else (In the name of equal treatment, it's only fair, right?)


SO NEXT: people will get punished for making rude comments about men/whites/christians/straight people.
THEN it will be punishment for people being rude about governments, politicians, corporations etc etc
SOON you won't be able to say anything negative without getting punished under 'hate laws'.


"Yeah but we need these laws to protect minorities from offensive comments!"


Do you really think the people who enforce these laws, the same people who have been literally bombing the middle east for years - you think they actually care about minorities?


Or do you think perhaps they are using minorities as an excuse (like some kind of human shield) in order to bring in new laws that will eventually be used to control everybody?


:conf: . :shrug: . :conf:



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Alf 16-09-2018 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 10231470)
Whole lives ruined just for saying/thinking the wrong thing.

Slippery slope?...

Today, this punishment is for people who make rude comments about women/blacks/muslims/jews/LGBT people.

It's done under the guise of 'protecting minorities'. That's how it starts.

Tomorrow that punishment will get extended to include negative comments about everyone else (In the name of equal treatment, it's only fair, right?)


SO NEXT: people will get punished for making rude comments about men/whites/christians/straight people.
THEN it will be punishment for people being rude about governments, politicians, corporations etc etc
SOON you won't be able to say anything negative without getting punished under 'hate laws'.


"Yeah but we need these laws to protect minorities from offensive comments!"


Do you really think the people who enforce these laws, the same people who have been literally bombing the middle east for years - you think they actually care about minorities?


Or do you think perhaps they are using minorities as an excuse (like some kind of human shield) in order to bring in new laws that will eventually be used to control everybody?


:conf: . :shrug: . :conf:



.

And that argument can be shut down by calling you a conspiracy theorist. And we can all go back to sleep.

Robodog 16-09-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10231593)
And that argument can be shut down by calling you a conspiracy theorist. And we can all go back to sleep.

Exactly.
Someone challenging the mainstream? Quick! Stick a label on them (conspiracy theorist, extremist, etc etc), put them into a pigeon hole so you won't have to listen... and back to sleep you go....

Sleepwalking off that cliff........

saiwong 16-09-2018 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10231328)
If she loses her job ,again it's her own stupid fault .

They always advise people who want a job not to post offensive stuff as employers can view them , even if she wasn't in big brother this could of still come back to bite her on her bum .

Facebook is another one people should be wary of ,your boss and colleagues can see everything .

I think what the take-backs from the Ellis situation is that .... you need to be responsible for what you post online.

Many people think that, just because you are behind a keyboard, staring at a computer screen, that you are anonymous
and can say whatever you want without repercussion. This is not so. People need to learn that there are consequences to
their actions and it might not be pretty.

So everyone, be wary of what you post online, whether it is on twitter, facebook or online forum.
Think twice before pressing that 'submit' button. Enjoy your online experience, but be wary that 'Big Brother' is watching you !! (ironic)

You don't want to lose your job because your employer found bad comments you made online. (even if it is a Mac job)

ThriceShy 16-09-2018 08:38 PM

Let's be honest.....

If a black contestant had tweets that were slating all white people, absolutely nothing would happen.

GoldHeart 16-09-2018 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10231741)
Let's be honest.....

If a black contestant had tweets that were slating all white people, absolutely nothing would happen.

Once again a silly irrelevant argument .

Any kind of racism is wrong !

ThriceShy 16-09-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10231757)
Once again a silly irrelevant argument .

Any kind of racism is wrong !

Exactly my point.

I bet there has never been a single case of a black person fired or ejected from a reality show because of a disparaging comment they made about white people.

James 16-09-2018 11:34 PM

There's doing the right thing, and being seen to be doing the right thing - often two different things.

A good example was Tila Tequila - they only needed to look at her Wikipedia page to know about her controversies, but still put her in the house. They removed her when she became a problem for their public image.

JoshBB 16-09-2018 11:36 PM

2018 - the year of racist midgets?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20180619223550https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...=1537037573418

RileyH 16-09-2018 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 10232985)

Messsss :skull:

Mystic Mock 16-09-2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10231071)
Ha life is over

Which is why people should be careful what they say on Social Media.

Although having said that, I do feel uncomfortable that paedophiles and rapists can work in Restaurants with celeb Chefs or be in the media eye as a reformed figure, yet a girl who was 15 at the time Tweeted a few offensive things and isn't even allowed to then compete on Big Brother, Showbiz is ****ed up.

reece(: 16-09-2018 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10232976)
There's doing the right thing, and being seen to be doing the right thing - often two different things.

A good example was Tila Tequila - they only needed to look at her Wikipedia page to know about her controversies, but still put her in the house. They removed her when she became a problem for their public image.

It's sad how time has changed, Ahmed in BB5 was an open homophobe yet was allowed to stay

pontyboi 16-09-2018 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10231073)
McDonald's told the Mirror: "We do not comment on individual employees but can confirm we are looking into these alleged social media posts."

But...this IS commenting on an individual employee!

I feel quite sorry for the girl now tbh. Whichever person was sad enough to hunt her social media may have now got her sacked from the job she had (even if it is just mcdonalds) and may make it hard for her to find work anywhere else too. Because of some twitter posts.

Exactly what I was thinking

Who has the time to scroll through probably hundreds of Tweets.

MB. 16-09-2018 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 10233008)
It's sad how time has changed, Ahmed in BB5 was an open homophobe yet was allowed to stay

I'm now just imagining him in the house today, getting removed for posting "gays are icky 😤" on his Snapchat in 2015

Jordan. 16-09-2018 11:45 PM

I'd be more upset about getting kicked out of BB to be fair.

Robodog 17-09-2018 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 10231762)
Exactly my point.

I bet there has never been a single case of a black person fired or ejected from a reality show because of a disparaging comment they made about white people.

You hear disparaging comments about white people all the time in the media, sometimes even on this forum.

But it's treated totally differently if the same type of comments were made about any other race.

From a mixed race perspective, i find it SO unequal, so hypocritical - it is insane.

armand.kay 17-09-2018 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 10232985)

also the year of racist and predatory gays. whew, they did the thing

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20180619223550http://entertainment.ie//images_cont...-at-114715.png

starry 17-09-2018 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 10231100)
“Ellis caused controversy on launch night when she flashed her bum on her entrance into the house.“

why are these articles always so ****ing sexist like this isn’t even relevant

I'm more concerned with the constant tedious sex talk from others there, which no doubt CH5 encourage.

Ammi 17-09-2018 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10232976)
There's doing the right thing, and being seen to be doing the right thing - often two different things.

A good example was Tila Tequila - they only needed to look at her Wikipedia page to know about her controversies, but still put her in the house. They removed her when she became a problem for their public image.

..it’s not really about that for me, James...it’s more that two wrongs don’t make a right...it’s wrong to put someone in the house whose tweet history contents are that of hate speech, which essentially her tweets are...but it’s also wrong to not do basic search checks which would only take moments ...and those checks then meaning a housemate doesn’t become a housemate in the first place...but BB didn’t do that...they allowed the tweets to be made public almost immediately after launch ...and then ejected Ellis, so basically threw her to the public wolves...and that for me far reaches anything she has said, which it shouldn’t...?...they decided to make her a housemate so they have taken on a duty of care for her which they seem to be completely shirking and dismissing...especially as she is a member of the public and not of any celebrity or wiki status ....anything with Tila was a part of her, a public knowledge part of her as you say...all on wiki so down to the public and the fans to become aware of these public things..but not so with Ellis in the same vein at all...(...although obviously tweets are public..)...so why dont BB make themselves aware of such basic things which they feel will decide whether they then put someone in the house or not...social media can be a huge ‘hate game’ and I feel they have a responsibility to not expose someone to that game that they have made a decision to put into the house....because of their lack of any research...their wrong is far greater than hers I feel in its potential impact on her life...maybe an unpopular thing but I’m feeling they deserve to have been axed...

iRyan 17-09-2018 06:14 AM

Every time I see this thread title I get an immediate craving for McDonalds welp

poppsywoppsy 17-09-2018 09:05 AM

I am on the side of MacDonalds here.

If they now knowingly employ someone with racist tendencies, especially after her sisters endorsement that it is true, they will alienate a large part of the community who may use their outlets.

It could be a franchise and affect the jobs of others should a boycott happen because of it.

It wasn't their fault, she is only one employee who has sent out a message they don't support which could bring their name into disrepute now they are aware of it.

bots 17-09-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 10233283)
I am on the side of MacDonalds here.

If they now knowingly employ someone with racist tendencies, especially after her sisters endorsement that it is true, they will alienate a large part of the community who may use their outlets.

It could be a franchise and affect the jobs of others should a boycott happen because of it.

It wasn't their fault, she is only one employee who has sent out a message they don't support which could bring their name into disrepute now they are aware of it.

I think people need to remember this is glasgow. The rangers/celtic sectarianism is very real so the dynamics are completely different to other cities. So what may seem unacceptable is just not in Glasgow

Glasgow has a significant proportion of Pakistani residents, the majority of whom have been here for generations now, you couldn't find a more integrated group anywhere in the UK. Much loved and appreciated by the majority of Glaswegians. They really couldn't give a toss what some wee stupid girl says.


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