The fact that Kay is 30 something is the perfect reason for her to not want confrontation in her life, not wanting confrontation is surely a sign of maturity, and someone who may have endured plenty in the 15 years of adulthood may have become tired of it. Her face certainly looked like she was exhausted by Lewis f.

I agree with a lot of what you say about Kay's character here, and I think she's a bad representative for Veganism because of her character (not because of her beliefs or the way she lives her life). Her airy fairy, sweet, innocent little angel persona, has probably reaffirmed the impression in some people's minds that Veganism is only for a certain type of person, rather than for the average person. The average person doesn't want to be associated, through Veganism, with the image Kay portrays.

I don't think she needs to change by having a husband or children, or by changing her focus on a cause she believes in or her career choice. I do, however, think she needs to address certain parts of her character that aren't so pleasant and to begin acting like a grown woman in her 30s, rather than some childlike 'fairy'. That way people would find her more real, and would respect her and her cause much more- she might then have her message about Veganism heard and considered.

How is Kay similar to him whatsoever? :unsure:

I didn't say she's exactly like him ,but some of his behaviour has probably rubbed off on her . There was a photo of them both on a animal rights protest .

So why go and sit near him, cuddle him and then get into another similar altication about the same things.

Maturity in a woman of 31 who wants to be seen as fairy like, sugar sweet and who does poke, prod and then tried to shut the conversation down.

She would say her part, then refuse to listen to his reply. That is not maturity in a lot of people's book. He was her last reason to leave, but not her first or second, running for the Fire Exit, attention seeking for all it's worth.

Yeah Kay started it by calling Lewis arrogant ,and then their friendship went down hill. Then there was the unnecessary drama over "holding hands" :rolleyes:
She always started an argument ,then she'd run away .

basically this

What a surprise, Not........

She went to sit in the sun and she sat on the furthest seat from him and was actually only half in and half out of the sun so as not to sit nearer to him, even though he was busy doing something with his back to her.. She never uttered a word to him and maybe she may have wanted him to apologise so discretely positioned herself so he could...but she just wanted some morning sunshine imo.

She would give her view yeah course, cause they agreed to discuss it... But no, Lewis just kept interrupting like an impatient penis. Shouting loudly, while she would as you say be all calm and mature, or fairy like if you prefer.

As for not listen to him, your kidding right? The whole house had to listen to him ranting away at her she was only a foot away so I don't know how she couldn't listen?

The garden isn't that small yet she still chose to sit next to him for a reaction :rolleyes: .

Lewis has his issues but so does Kay

almost as surprising as this thread coming from you?

Well an apology is a reaction, and the four seats lined up were obviously there because that's where the sun was, an as it was sun she was seeking that's where she sat, right plonked down on the furthest one from the prick, half in half out of the sun as Lewis did his peacocking in the sun.

Thank you for taking notice of this thread.

Next, you might even read my posts and try to understand where I am coming from, rather than second a throwaway two liner with your own two words.

It is not what or how you may think.

He did not seek out her but she had the rest of the garden along with her housemates company to choose from, but she didn't, she choose the seats nearest him and waited for him to react.

Amazing how you saw it so differently to so many others who saw it too.

Exactly
She even jokingly said "I'm sitting with my best friend" to the other housemates :bored: .

She was directed to the seats by those hms after they told her it was sunny over there!!

This is well documented on the forum and evident in the footage....

A statement later proved correct by Lewis's evil mouth as he exited the room.

She didn't have to sit there though, she knew exactly what she was doing.

You must have seen her looking at him and he took no notice.

:clap1:

Quite.

She did have to sit there to get the sun though, are you even reading anything I've wrote on this page?


You also couldn't tell if she was looking at him cause the only close up of her face showed her averting her eyes from the sun, I even thought at the time someone would use that on here.

I know what I saw, as did others. Please do not tell me what I saw. Thank you.:fist:

I won't, if you stop telling me what I didn't see:shrug:

Anyway, water under the bridge, Fairy tippytoes is gone, good riddance, moving on to bigger and better times tonight without her, result!!!!:hee:

I agree Kay just went out of her way to get a reaction out of Lewis. It was very calculated.

Threads like this make me long for off season

I still don't understand why she went on BB :facepalm: .
She also thinks she was unfairly edited ,but I don't know what she expects when she's moaning and threatening to leave everyday . of course that will be shown :shrug: .

You know where to find your off knob:hee:

I do agree with a lot of what you have said about Lewis. However, I don't think this means that Kay is so innocent.

In poppsywoppsy's defence, I thought the comment about sitting near her friend was sarcastic and that the seat she chose was an odd place to sit- it struck me at the time, and I looked around to see if there was an alternative. There was, in fact, a row of seats by the wall at the back which were in the sunshine too.

Had she wanted to give Lewis some space and avoid provoking him, she could have made a better decision. My conclusion was that her choice of seat was intentional.....

I don't think it would be done to antagonise Lewis. But we are all different.:blush:

Yes indeed. And that's what makes a good forum, Parmi, otherwise we'd all have nothing to discuss or debate, I suppose.

Thank you for your advise but how about you focus on whatever point you're trying to make with this thread and I'll respond how I wish? I will make sure to keqp you in mind if I'm ever in need of advice.

Capitalising the word 'not' when unnecessary and using "not" jokes in 2018... also unsurprising.