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Oliver_W 10-11-2018 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 10342790)
This isn't a debate, this is a poll. Mmmmm, polls.

Also no, I don't think it is unfaithful. Maybe immoral, but not even just for couple's reasons. I actually used to be in a girl's pin-up digital painting group, and I would sometimes make my husband custom art... he seems to prefer that actually.

The combination of your husband jacking it to digital art and the Asian influence of your sigpic and avatar makes me wonder if you're a hentai artist?

montblanc 10-11-2018 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10342835)
I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.

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Wizard. 10-11-2018 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10342906)
Why would it be someone from GRINDR marsh?

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Ant. 10-11-2018 11:00 PM

All I'm saying is, the people I know that watch porn are single, and those that don't are in loving relationships

Maru 10-11-2018 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10342913)
The combination of your husband jacking it to digital art and the Asian influence of your sigpic and avatar makes me wonder if you're a hentai artist?

No, significantly more painterly/realistic than that.

GoldHeart 10-11-2018 11:11 PM

I've clicked "other" because it depends what you mean by "porn" . If the person is just watching it and it doesn't affect their life and there's no obsessive addiction then i don't think it would cause problems.

However if they would rather spend time watching it than spending time with their partner then that's a BIG PROBLEM! . Also anything that just involves watching is not cheating , however if it's interactive with cam models etc then yes that's cheating ! especially if it's done behind the partner's back. Or if they have porno images of someone they know/ or ex partner on their phone etc then yes that's wrong if they're already in a relationship.

Swan 10-11-2018 11:13 PM

I wanking over this thread

Maru 10-11-2018 11:43 PM

Speaking of cheating. They have a robot brothel in Houston now. Our friends mentioned it, asking if it should be considered cheating... but it depends on how realistic the robots are. If they can learn your name, can interact with you emotionally... pretty sure that's cheating in my book, no matter however they put it. (well, especially how they put it, but you know...)

It wouldn't seem at first to be practical for to be the cause. Is a robot really going to replace a real human-being. Well.. the reality is, our chemistry is wired to respond to things that behave or mimic us in very emotional ways. If you can rebutt that connection, cool. I wouldn't go as far as to say that we should be scared a lover would run off with a robot, but I would think the emotional attachment to a fictional human-being would be very disruptive for a relationship in the very least. Especially if that person plays with it enough that they build a significant connection/persona around it. After all it would check all the boxes you tell it to, listens to all your problems and with some extra tech, it can even behave however you want as well...

There's already people who are attached to 3D-printed "robots". I watched an episode from a show about how people who were really into it online. I wish I could remember the name of it, because it was available online and was really good. There was a French lady in it who decided to marry one that didn't move. It was just something she made with a 3D printer iirc and parts. Some of them don't even do anything. They're just mannequins. But, they built them to be pretend.

Humans are very skilled social creatures, especially with regard to mimicry. That was so clear during that show. It's weird how she seemed to have developed robot-like features herself, while trying to make it seem "relatable" to the cameras. So from that perspective, I can understand and even empathize where some may decide in a relationship to discourage/prohibit just pornography. Maybe that does transition off-screen. Though I think with most people (not all!), it requires a bigger mental connection than just skin-to-skin to want to be with someone long-term, and pornography and robots aren't going to cut it... but those who are having issues, they may seek those "activities" as an outlet and maybe in some instances it bridges out to other behaviors...

Myself, I tend to think of porn like reading a book, but with mostly explicit scenes. We all technically watch porn if we have ever seen most Hollywood movies, in my view. And yeah, people do think tend to feel like they need to be like that in their own bedroom, so I wouldn't say it doesn't affect us either...

Marsh. 10-11-2018 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Smithy (Post 10342906)
Why would it be someone from GRINDR marsh?

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I wasn't talking about me!!! :oh:

As if I'm in a relationship! :eek:

Marsh. 10-11-2018 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10342866)
That isn't porn though... pics sent back and forth of individuals in a personal way. Porn is more media used for a wider audience. What you are describing is a form of cheating... at least that's what I believe.

Yeah but that's what I mean. It depends on your perspective of a partner enjoying the videos/images of a stranger having sex.

Twosugars 11-11-2018 12:31 AM

Porn is fine, we do that with my bf. Watch separately or together :shrug:
Pics/vids send from somebody you know only online is borderline. Depends where it leads. If it leads to sex chat then it is cheating. If it's just for a laugh, comparing etc, then it's fine, no different to a locker room.


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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10342828)
No to all of the above, however, I personally find porn bleak as **** and have various moral issues with it. Really just a horrible, exploitative industry full of addicts and desperation and frankly if I wanted to see some poor smack addict getting slammed I could just set up CCTV in the alleyway behind the shop. But I really don't.

This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

GoldHeart 11-11-2018 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10343054)
Porn is fine, we do that with my bf. Watch separately or together :shrug:
Pics/vids send from somebody you know only online is borderline. Depends where it leads. If it leads to sex chat then it is cheating. If it's just for a laugh, comparing etc, then it's fine, no different to a locker room.



This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

Yeah anything interactive and sexting is cheating /borderline . And obviously keeping rude videos and photo's of someone they know on their computer or phone is also immoral & weird .

Niamh. 11-11-2018 01:39 AM

No [emoji23]

Maru 11-11-2018 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10343054)
Porn is fine, we do that with my bf. Watch separately or together :shrug:
Pics/vids send from somebody you know only online is borderline. Depends where it leads. If it leads to sex chat then it is cheating. If it's just for a laugh, comparing etc, then it's fine, no different to a locker room.



This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

Ha. Yeah, that's definitely a more masculine POV. :laugh: "What are you doing with a picture of your friend's t!ts on your phone!?" "Oh, that was only for the lulz, honey..."

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JerseyWins 11-11-2018 06:48 AM

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes it's ok regardless :joker:

Far from unfaithful IMO. The only way it would be unfaithful to me is if the person had some kind of personal relationship with the pornstar I think... but even then ehhh it's only just bordering "cheating"

JerseyWins 11-11-2018 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10342835)
I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10343027)
Yeah but that's what I mean. It depends on your perspective of a partner enjoying the videos/images of a stranger having sex.

Eh it's kinda close but different. That would mean the person actually knows the one sending them nudes and has/had been talking to them in some form. Plus in porn it's acting out a script for media/entertainment as well - in a non-personal/non-private way.

hijaxers 11-11-2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10342673)
Why do you think that?

Past history with someone - too distressing to talk about still.

hijaxers 11-11-2018 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10342882)
Of course not god everyone does it in relationships

You are incorrect there Riley sorry.

Black Dagger 11-11-2018 08:26 AM

Lol ofc not.

Obviously if you're sat next to them and they want to have a bounce and you're like "Nah hun. Want to see this twink get gangbanged instead" it'd be a bit weird. But the concept isn't immoral in my eyes.

user104658 11-11-2018 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10343054)

This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

I don't mean to assume here 2S but I'm not sure how much "straight porn" you've actually watched? The main problems lie within amateur porn and that's where the vast majority of exploitation occurs. Studio porn was a career. Yes there were obviously addiction problems etc. in that industry too but the stars were paid very well and there were strict hygiene and health standards. In grainy amateur porn, most of the girls who are being ****ed on camera whilst looking a bit sad and uncomfortable and being paid a couple of hundred dollars at most for it are spending that cash on drugs, and often come from backgrounds of serious abuse. There are no regulations and its almost always without condoms.

user104658 11-11-2018 09:16 AM

There is a SMALL amount of ethical porn where the people doing it are genuinely happy and simply very open and extrovert for their own properly considered reasons but we're talking like 1% of the porn you'll find online here. The massive rate of ex porn stars talking about how unhappy they were should be a huge indicator. And that's the recognisable ones / big names... I can only imagine how the ones who already look like they're trying not to cry whilst one guy gives them a prolapse and another cums up their nose for a one off payday feel about it afterwards.

And THAT only goes into porn actually made in the US / UK etc... A huge amount of porn online is Southern American, Eastern European, and East Asian. Are we really going to pretend that these people are having fun?

Meh. Don't get me wrong I used to watch plenty of porn when I was younger. One day I just sort of realised how horrendously depressing it actually is.

Crimson Dynamo 11-11-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ant. (Post 10342957)
All I'm saying is, the people I know that watch porn are single, and those that don't hve lied to me to make me think they are perfect


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RileyH 11-11-2018 09:29 AM

Screaming @ the amount of votes I didn't think there were even 30 people left on the forum

user104658 11-11-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10343186)
Screaming @ the amount of votes I didn't think there were even 30 people left on the forum

Like 20 of them are Nicky on other accounts. And three are Brillo.

Redway 11-11-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10342828)
No to all of the above, however, I personally find porn bleak as **** and have various moral issues with it. Really just a horrible, exploitative industry full of addicts and desperation and frankly if I wanted to see some poor smack addict getting slammed I could just set up CCTV in the alleyway behind the shop. But I really don't.

You got any hard statistics to verify that statement?

Tom4784 11-11-2018 12:15 PM

I don't think it is. It's a bit silly to get upset by someone watching porn and ridiculous to act like it's cheating.

Beastie 11-11-2018 02:13 PM

Thank the lord for porn!

Marsh. 11-11-2018 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10343090)
Eh it's kinda close but different. That would mean the person actually knows the one sending them nudes and has/had been talking to them in some form. Plus in porn it's acting out a script for media/entertainment as well - in a non-personal/non-private way.

Well, no both are stranger.

Swapping nudes on an app doesn't mean you know them.

Mokka 11-11-2018 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10343537)
Well, no both are stranger.

Swapping nudes on an app doesn't mean you know them.

But the apps are used to sift though who you do or don't want to meet. And there is the opportunity there to take it further... now if my partner reached out to a porn star they were obsessed with... that would also be concerning.

JerseyWins 11-11-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10343582)
But the apps are used to sift though who you do or don't want to meet. And there is the opportunity there to take it further... now if my partner reached out to a porn star they were obsessed with... that would also be concerning.

Yeah, agree with this :clap1:

Tom4784 11-11-2018 05:42 PM

Just sounds like rampant insecurity to me.

I think mixing up porn with sites where you interact with people via nudes or video is simply muddying the waters to falsely give the porn=cheating angle made up weight. Watching a video of porn stars going at it is not the same as pursuing someone and interacting with them sexually online.

user104658 11-11-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Redway (Post 10343341)
You got any hard statistics to verify that statement?

To verify my personal opinion? :think: Yes actually I've just done an exhaustive poll. Every Toy Soldier from TiBB was asked to verify that this is Toy Soldier from TiBB's personal opinion, and 100% of respondents said "Yes" :omgno:. Pretty conclusive stuff there doc.

Mokka 11-11-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10343786)
Just sounds like rampant insecurity to me.

I think mixing up porn with sites where you interact with people via nudes or video is simply muddying the waters to falsely give the porn=cheating angle made up weight. Watching a video of porn stars going at it is not the same as pursuing someone and interacting with them sexually online.

My point is that they are clearly two different things.... and that's where the line is drawn between cheating and not cheating

y.winter 11-11-2018 06:59 PM

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Marsh. 11-11-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka (Post 10343582)
But the apps are used to sift though who you do or don't want to meet. And there is the opportunity there to take it further... now if my partner reached out to a porn star they were obsessed with... that would also be concerning.

Yeah, but how far is someone with a partner going to take it with a stranger on an app. Sex/nudes concerning strangers, obviously porn is purely consumed through a screen, but so is a large percentage of the nudes culture who never actually meet. With the progression of technology I think the lines are blurring.

Mokka 12-11-2018 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10344443)
Yeah, but how far is someone with a partner going to take it with a stranger on an app. Sex/nudes concerning strangers, obviously porn is purely consumed through a screen, but so is a large percentage of the nudes culture who never actually meet. With the progression of technology I think the lines are blurring.

I guess far enough to seek a one on one intimate connection with one person through an app as opposed to watching just the physical acts of sex between a couple of actors in porn. I would be way more upset by a partner looking for someone else for a personal attachment/connection even if it is just on line, sexy or not, than a partner getting turned on by a sex or porno scene. We all have our own visual turn ons.... but emotional connections are the intimate part of the relationship... not to be shared... I guess unless you are polyamourous or something.

Matthew. 13-11-2018 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 10342680)
Porn is immorally wrong

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Beso 13-11-2018 02:34 PM

depends what they were looking at i guess....like if a big fat woman was living with a bloke and she found out he was looking at skinny asses on the porntube then i think she should have every right to pull him up on it.

Livia 13-11-2018 02:36 PM

I do not think porn is cheating.

Beso 13-11-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10343163)
There is a SMALL amount of ethical porn where the people doing it are genuinely happy and simply very open and extrovert for their own properly considered reasons but we're talking like 1% of the porn you'll find online here. The massive rate of ex porn stars talking about how unhappy they were should be a huge indicator. And that's the recognisable ones / big names... I can only imagine how the ones who already look like they're trying not to cry whilst one guy gives them a prolapse and another cums up their nose for a one off payday feel about it afterwards.

And THAT only goes into porn actually made in the US / UK etc... A huge amount of porn online is Southern American, Eastern European, and East Asian. Are we really going to pretend that these people are having fun?

Meh. Don't get me wrong I used to watch plenty of porn when I was younger. One day I just sort of realised how horrendously depressing it actually is.




ts, staring down at his limp dick, cheese grater in hand.....


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