i think if no deal looks like being the way we are heading, having voted against that in the majority only last week, they should then revoke with the condition of there being a new referendum.

The referendum should then be a simple choice, remain or leave without a deal. This means everyone is clear on exactly what their choice is and there will be no further negotiation with the EU

Regardless of the outcome of a second referendum, it would be undemocratic to hold one.

May's deal keeps us tied to the EU.

Personally I think we should still leave... but remainers have screwed the whole process into the ground, strung it out, voted against, in the hopes we'll stay.

Just my opinion of course.

To be fair, I know a few leavers who changed their minds = mainly because they are so pissed off with the whole thing they think it would just be easier to stay in.

I voted remain, I still want to remain - but cannot be arsed with another 2 years of this. I do still believe if we leave with no deal we are in for a whole world of pain in the immediate aftermath and for a good few years but I want the whole debacle over.

Now, if you excuse me, I am off to stockpile toilet rolls and tinned tuna.

And what are we leaving? What have people voted to leave? Do they even know themselves?
EU
Single Market
Customs' Union

You do realize you can leave EU and remain in the other two? They may be conflated with the EU but in fact they are stand-alonge entities. That was not asked.

LOL... Annie... you do make me laugh x

Is this you not patronising me again, sugar squared? You're sh1t at it x

doesn't answer my question :)

edit: and no, I'm not trying to patronise, that' just my style of discussion
so get used to it and lay off those lame accusations :)

I must say there is a certain irony about TM and her deal and the referendum

"its no good" says parliament

"wait let me try again" says may

"its no good" says parliament

"wait, look at it now, iv changed the font" says may

"its no good" says parliament

"wait, let me give a billion quid to the DUP, how about now? says may

"its no good" says parliament



"how about another referendum PM?" says the Great British Public


:omgno: says May - you had one, Brexit means Brexit, how dare you


:fan:

Yes, I realise that you can leave one and remain in the other two. Was that your question?

:joker::joker::joker:

this about sums it up :laugh:

then how come you interpret that people chose to leave all three? :shrug:

I don't think a second referendum bill would get through parliament, simply because too many MPs are in leave-voting constituencies, and they would be worried about losing their seats.

then you need a newer parliament first of all, cause this current one will never agree to a deal from their PM May :hehe:

7+ million people voted to leave so that is what should happen, it's only got so messy as ministers who want to stay are having tantrums everytime something is put on the table,they have to do what is right by us and not themselves.The country will be fine we have stood on our own two feet before and will do again.

well i have more worries for shortage in food and medicine in UK with no deal brexit :worry:

Kaz that's not true. There are leavers that won't support the deal and remainers that will. It's not remainers that are to blame for this sorry mess, there is enough blame to go round.

And around 16m voted to remain. That is almost HALF the country. It is WRONG to just completely dismiss those people. There are changes that the Leave people, quite rightly want to see, but there are ways of doing that without throwing the country's future into risk and uncertainty.

Revoke article 50. If the UK really is 'a union of equals' it should never have even been triggered in the first place since Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain.

No deal for me

Think I beat you to it.
Cupboards are full to bursting.

I voted leave..and still want to leave.
No deal is ok by me.

So go on then. Explain it to us. Sell it. Why?

Reluctantly.
May’s deal.
It’s probably the least bad and most democratic option.

No deal - used to be my preferred option but our Parliament could not be trusted to take full advantage of it imo.

Second referendum - would cause more problems and there is no fair way to do it.It should also not even be considered an option until the result of the first one has been honoured.

Revoke Article 50 - What?? Lol

I don’t need to sell it, it’s already been sold.:hehe:

My reasons for wanting out outweighed any I had for staying in, I thought long and hard about it.
Didn’t believe the bull$hit from either sides campaigns, had nothing to do with the money saving on the side of the bus, had very little to do with free movement.
I would simply like us to make our own rules and abide by them.
I don’t yearn for the good old days either, my glasses are not rose coloured.

:clap1:

What rules would you like us to implement post brexit that we can't do now?

All and any.....particularly future rulings.
Free trading would be top of the list.
Hopefully we can still trade with Europe as well, beneficial to both sides.

Those bottom 2 we already have now and there is no way in hell we can leave the eu and get the same/better deals as an individual country.

I know that won't change your mind, but I'm just trying to provide some honesty about what's over the horizon.

No rules that you can think of at the moment?

i was listening to someone that was anti brexit last night trying to say how bad it would be trading with a no deal. He quoted tariffs, standards etc. Being in the EU now, we already produce to the correct standards, and tariff wise we would win on some things, lose on others. It's not the end of the world by any imagination. MP's know this. It's all a game to them.

I know it’s not going to be easy, I have never thought differently.
Hopefully we can get back on our feet after a very short period.
I can’t see what good another referendum would do, May’s deal won’t get passed, whatever she comes up with, so I am left with the no deal option.:shrug:

At this point Brexit is the only viable option that will let the country stop in fighting and move forward. A new ref or revoking article 50 wont solve anything, it will just prolong the agony.

No deal brexit, may be painful, but I would rather peoples energies were focused positively moving forward. May's deal is the best option available that stops all the crap now, followed by no deal. Revoking article 50 will extend this mess for years.

Whatever happens with brexit, the country is going to be divided for years and possibly decades, so expecting people to hop on board and deal with unnecessary pain because you want them to channel it into positivity won't work. I know from reading your posts that you're sincere and try to come from a good place, but it's naive of you to expect people at risk of losing their businesses etc to just get on with it.

The referendum meant that there will be no winners from this sorry mess.

I do not need to sell anything to anyone no more than your vote doesn't need explaining either ( are you old enough to vote ?) My vote, my choice ,my priorities

Get an extension and gauge whether the people want no deal or not via a referendum, if No deal loses then Parliament needs to go back to the drawing board and see if the deal can be negotiated. If that falls through again, have another referendum to decide if people want to stay or go and then go from there.

So therefore destroying democracy ?

I think we should surrender, like the cowards that we are.

No backbones now Alf,we should take a leaf out of the Frenchs book !!

Gee, I wonder why there’s such division with such pleasant, non aggressive attitudes like that around?

Do you know that it's a xenophobic myth that the French are surrendering cowards?

Tell us something that isn't phobic or an ism?

Did you know that by speaking negative of Everton football club, could be considered a hate crime, if I decided that my feelings were hurt?