i think LT is obsessed with Kate, forget Madeline

:rolleyes:

mmhhmm

Not commenting on the fact that had she not been left alone she may still be safe and well with her parents?

I don't know enough about that case to comment one way or another and even if they were negligent in any way, it still wouldn't excuse the McCann's for leaving 3 kids under 4 alone to go and socailise.

As for your previous comment that MILLIONS of parents do it, can you provide proof of that? I know of no parent who has left their kids, particularly on holiday, home alone (and I'm from Salford!)

She wasn't left alone, her dad and grandparents were in the house at the time

This is what i can't get my head around ! , the children were 2 babies and Madeline was still pretty much a toddler ! :facepalm: . Who in their right mind leaves kids THIS YOUNG alone not only at home but while on holiday in a different environment!! . Anything can happen when they're left unsupervised.

Red flags are there , it's very worrying that these parent's had that mind set to go out drinking plus why not go somewhere child friendly and take the children with them?? .

I have never heard anyone think it's normal to leave children alone who are that SMALL. Even children aged 10 would still have some sort of care instead of being left totally on their own . But a 10 year old being left alone isn't the same as 3 small kids .

No, he was asking me if I had no comment (on that Scottish case) and I was throwing it back to him asking if he had no comment that if the McCann's hadn't left Maddie there is every chance that she would still be safe and well.

oh my apologies. Just a stupid comparison he's trying to make

I didn't make it clear - my fault

I want to see what proof he has of the MILLIONs of people leaving their kids alone, LT is normally such a stickler for facts and figures, I am sure he will have such proof at his finger tips

Well, I've never come across it. The "norm" around anyone I know when taking kids on holiday is take them with you to eat, they just go to bed a bit later :shrug:

Indeed....

There are necessary nominal risks involved in letting your children grow up and become more independent, just as there are necessary nominal risks in life. We have electrical appliances in our homes although there's a risk that they will start a fire; we have smoke detectors to minimize the risk that a fire will end in a death because a responsible adult will or should know what to do in the event of a fire.

Leaving a 3 year old (and two younger children) ALONE in an apartment on holiday is not a necessary nominal risk and the fact is that most people simply would not do it, despite your insistence otherwise. I can't figure out if you're so adamant that it's normal for "McCann reasons"... or because it's something you've done in the past and you don't want to think of it as poor parenting?

TS, it's bc he fancies Kate

Indeed :laugh: I cannot think of anyones opinion I would trust less tbh

When Kate grows up a bit and loses her looks (which to be fair are very good, especiaslly for someone her age and with the stress she goes through) will you still be 'team McCann'? Never seen you defending Gerry, and you seem to love randomly posting Kate photos :laugh:

do you seriously think if he thought for one second 2 parents had murdered their child he would not go to the police?

he, more than anyone would be best placed

His testimony shows you how ridiculous the youtube conspiracy theories are

I would 'blame' my neighbour for being burgled if they had gone out for hours, left their front door wide open along with all their windows. Insurance companies would too oddly enough.

Edit. Should maybe clarify my use of 'blame' here. It would be the fault of the burglar for stealing. But, the homeowners made it easy. All of this is kind of besides the point though as I don't believe an abductor existed.

Don't care nor know what his personal opinion is really. But his job is media spin, so he's hardly going to do anything less than jab his tongue repeatedly up their arses.

Hand on heart I’m still not 100 per cent convinced the parents were involved in what ever happened to maddie.

Any day the truth could come out, so if you are involved it must be a living nightmare.

Would cracks not start to show, so much time and money has been invested in this case.

If the evidence was there that the parents were involved I can’t see top police turning a blind eye.

Members should avoid stacking information/"evidence" to prove a theory if a simpler explanation fits the observations

take a razor to them

She looks more & more boney in the face with emotionless expression but if that's what's considered pretty then OK

This. Or eating earlier to get back to the apartment earlier.

OR, something even easier when you have such a large group of people... taking it in turns to babysit the kids whilst people have an evening off.

Quite, that would be so bloody easy and the parents would have had to miss out on ONE night each.

When we go away as a family, if its too late for the kids to go out (and 8pm or whatevers not considered late for kids on holiday) we do this, one adult watches them all. Easy. But thats of course for parents/family/friends who actually give a crap. Kids love it too as its like a sleepover, a bunch of kids in one room. Its quite stressful for the adult drawing the short straw though :D