I believe the theory that they gave the kids sleeping pills and Madeleine overdosed and died

It's really interesting to read everyone's thoughts on this.

I still have no idea at all tbh. I find it all to be very dodgy; because of the way that Kate & Gerry have acted in interviews, refusing to answer questions and how blood was found in the back of their car. Also their story hasn't been consistent regarding the times that the children were being looked after.

Also I don't really think they killed her (or even accidentally). I feel like people only go to the overdosing thoughts because they're doctors?

It's possible that she was taken but I sort of just find that to be too coincidental?

I dunno. I feel like it could have something to do with their 'friends' who were going over to their place that night to watch the kids. I think Kate & Gerry could know more than they let on as well.

I think they may have considered her a difficult child and gave her away, not necessarily to a dodgy child abusing ring, but to some illegal adoption thing. I think killing her/disposing of the body couldnt have been achieved without some local help, and that wouldn't have remained a secret all these years.

I think the parents, or one of the group drugged her. I do not believe it was calpol as there wouldn't really be any reason to cover that up as its easily explained away as 'he gave her some then I did not knowing he had'. And I think there was an accident when a drugged Madeleine climbed on the sofa to look out the window for her parents. I think Gerry found her on his 'check' (though I think the checks were virtually non-existant and were added on to make the abduction thing more plausable) and..quickly disposed of her. I do not think Kate actually knew until a bit later but she clearly would by now. I think they turned the tragic situation to be a moneyspinner and have done very well from that. I think the main reason they got away with it all was just luck.

I understand a lot of the thoeires though and really, a great number of them could be true. All I know is basically, there was no evidence of an intruder, and the cadaver dog indicated there.

Indeed..and especially after the kid only the day before had told you that they had woken up crying and looking for you. Cold callous parents to ignore that and kep doing it tbh. I think this might have been how the oversdose happened actually. They had been giving them something light to sleep, and not checking (unless likle, going back to the room for cash and having a quick look them) then when told they weren't being as effective as they thought, upping the dose rather than just staying in with the kids, or taking them with them.

If you want an adults only holiday, thas fine. Hell me and Gav just got back from one of those while grandad had the kids for a week. But, why take the kids if all day you are palming them off in the creche, and all night you leave them alone so you can get pissed. This always baffles me tbh.

This has been acknowledged a few times.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Madeleine.html

Different quote (so not made up..rest of story can be but direct quotes no) that really boils my piss...

This insistence that they were responsible parents, how could you say this given the circumstance, I mean, even is an abduction did happen its just constant 'nothing we did put the kids at risk' type thing :umm2:

Some do, some think she was being sexually abused, some think she died from being given drugs and overdosed, some think she fell, some think the parents disposed of her body.

Lots question how two parents can show no emotion.

Yeah, pretty much my thoughts aswell, these are the two things that are fact rather than theory and neither point to someone kidnapping her

I mean purposely killed her, not an accidental death caused by their neglect or irresponsibility. Killing her implies murder which implies intention, is what I mean

This is where all the facts are stored, great reference point


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk

Yeah and those are actual Police files

Yes they are ......... For some reason ( and until the reason is revealed the McCanns have controlled the press all this time, unlike any other case ever )

My theory after years and years on many groups with very informed people is ....... I think Maddie died the night before the alarm was raised,I think she died the night Mrs Fenn heard crying for a long time, but I dont think it was Maddie shouting DADDY as reported,I think it was Kate shouting MADDIE (Therefore outing the lie they told by claiming they never called her by that name, which they DID )I think Kate came home in a temper due to Gerrys flirting with the woman in the bar ,Maddie woke up and Kate lashed out at her, which answers why her clothing had Maddies death scent on them and also the reason for all the blood found behind the sofa ,I think her body was refrigerated ( as Amaral believes ) and taken 25 days later on the Huelva trip where there were unaccounted for milage and hours ,Huelva has natural acid baths and IMO that's where Maddie body was let

honestly i think people WANT the parents to be involved because it makes everything so much easier, but the more I read/hear about it all I honestly think its as simple as she was stolen by someone, sold, and is part of a pedophile ring, possibly smuggled to another country.

If maddie had been killed by the parents I dont get why they would go so public with everything... like surely you would wait for it to die down and just get on with your life?

Maybe thats what they think people would think they would do and so they kept up the pretence? I don't think, unless there is a deathbed confession by one of them, that we will ever know the truth if they did have anything to do with it

They are in the lie too deep to do that ,have you read the police files i posted or are you believing the Sun ?

Was she not at the kids club on the day they said she disappeared though (I haven't read the reports so I honestly don't know the answer to this).?

Didn’t the police dog find blood and traces of drugs in the apartment though

I genuinely believe she was abducted by an elusive and advanced paedophile/human trafficking network

However,

I believe that the parents of Madeleine know more about the kidnapping than what they'll lead us all to believe

Payne and Tanners daughters were spitting image of Maddie

Explain Maddies death scent/cadaver ?

Somewhere in the police files i posted is the creche record for that day ,please look at it

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Thanks Chuff, have read it now. Interesting.

To me that barking dog explains nothing but the fact that it is a well-trained dog. For all we know, it could not mean the detection of Madeleine's cadaver.

Truthfully, I think it's way more likely that she was abducted than killed by her parents in the room and then transported elsewhere~

They're not just someones pet dog they dragged in from the park :laugh:

Oh please stop making yourself looks silly ,these were FBI trusted, fully trained police dogs with 100% record

Honestly Niamh sometimes I wonder how some people remember to breathe in and out :facepalm:

And this is NOT a personal attack on the one member, but to the public in general who are too lazy to dig deep, too easy to make Maddies short life and terrible death mean nothing

I thought it was their car? I don't know about that, it's possible that she cut herself or something though. :shrug:

then explain why the case against them was dropped due to inconclusive evidence/DNA?

I refuse to believe the only reason they're still walking free is because they paid everyone out.

I get that's an easy conclusion to reach for you conspiracists but you're talking about the idea of me being insensitive to Maddie's potential loss of life whilst gladly contributing to the media firestorm that has ruined the rest of her families'~

Dog alerts on their own are not classed as evidence. I think they might be in the US though?

Also sure I have read (though god knows where and I might be misremembering), the 15 DNA markers in the hire car would have been enough to put them away if the case was in england, but Portuguese are stricter, so for all the moaning about Portuguese justice (for daring to do what any decent force would do and basically check out the family first)..they are lucky as hell it was there not here.

What baffles me is if the police have all this information,why have they not been hauled into a court and questioned under oath ?

because this case has been tainted by a plethora of pseudo-criminologists who come forth and spread falsities for their own personal notoriety/gain. People like to gain purpose by thinking they know exactly what they're talking about, judging by some of the users in this thread.......

Truth is, 99% of what we hear about Madeleine is hearsay and rumour. People read the Sun newspaper and watch a Maddie docuseries on Netflix and suddenly have all the evidence, it seems.

LOTS of evidence to them being 100% guilty, but not the right sort of evidence YET

Im far from a Sun reader who have fallen for the 3 card trick !

That's not an answer to the post you quoted of mine. The Dogs indicated how they were trained to indicate, these particular dogs were very experienced and highly successful at what they've been trained to do so your suggestion that they were just randomly barking is bizarre

Chuff literally posted a link to the actual Police files, everything is in there. Goncalo Amarals book was allowed to go ahead by a court decision because the judge ruled that everything he claimed was true and already available for people to view in the Police files

Tea
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Too much like hard work to look Niamh