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Beso 28-03-2019 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10488866)




You ****ing sexy legend

Jack_ 28-03-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10490005)
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

I think she has to harbour a lot of the responsibility for the deadlock we’ve reached to be fair.

She called an election that she promised she never would, in a disgraceful and deliberate attempt to wipe the opposition off the electoral map for a generation and effectively set up a quasi one-party state. This, whilst pretending it was to “get a bigger mandate to deliver on Brexit”, rather ironically squandered the existing parliamentary mandate she already had, and that’s why we’re in this position.

Vicky. 28-03-2019 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10490025)
She knew though Vicky, they all knew, the only reason she got the job is because everyone else was avoiding it like the plague because it would only ever go one way. In full knowledge of that she decided she wanted a shot at it anyway. She didn't have to.

Yeah I know that, still feel sorry for her though. Even after the election I felt sorry for her, despite KNOWING she only did it thinking she would wipe the floor with Labour. So really, I should have been laughing at the arrogant twat who did the totasl wrong thing :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 28-03-2019 07:04 PM

If ever it was a vote for your favourite fungal infection

this is it

bots 28-03-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10490054)
If ever it was a vote for your favourite fungal infection

this is it

its amusing that all the potential candidates above are still more popular with the British public than Mr Corbyn :laugh:

Twosugars 28-03-2019 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10490005)
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

I don't feel sorry for her at all.

1/though a remainer she sat out the ref campaign, unwilling to stand up for her views
2/instead of making brexit cross-party issue she bowed to a group of tory hardliners in setting out her red lines on which she based her negotations
and now she's surprised parliament doesnt' support her deal and
3/called art 50 too early
4/should have allowed parliament to form consensus before negotiations not after
5/stupid elections
6/throughout she always put party politics before the country while claiming otherwise
7/no skillset for the job so cleary lack in judgement; inflexible, unimaginative, unable to empathize,
8/landed us in this mess

Vicky. 29-03-2019 08:27 AM

Yes, the triggering article 50 with no plan was as ****ing stupid as calling the referendum with no plan for if the vote was leave. Cameron did this out of arrogance I think, thinking he KNEW the result would be stay as thats what he wanted so why make continguency plans..and I think May did it more out of pressure from leavers about 'do something!' trying to rush along the process.

Honestly, the only thing I think CAN be done now is to revoke article 50 until a later stage, when everythings worked out. This does not mean we have to stay, before leavers start kicking off. Just means that..well..we don't crash out totally unprepared. Which would be disastrous really.

GoldHeart 29-03-2019 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10490005)
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

Actually when Cameron was PM he DID get the Blame ,and I think many laughed when he stood down as he caused this mess .

May is now making a mess of things so of course she's getting blamed, and when she was home secretary she made bad choices. Everything with Brexit is a joke and I'm bored of hearing about it on the news , and nobody seems to have a Clue what they're doing :facepalm: .

Twosugars 29-03-2019 02:35 PM

As per leadership campaign tradition, Tories start knifing each other in the back.

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The Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi has said she is fearful of the idea of Michael Gove becoming prime minister, saying she and other senior members of the party are concerned about his views on British Muslims.
That should do the trick and sink Gove.

arista 31-03-2019 03:44 AM

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bots 31-03-2019 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10490544)
As per leadership campaign tradition, Tories start knifing each other in the back.



That should do the trick and sink Gove.

you are viewing that from a labour supporters perspective, not the demographic that will be choosing a new leader of the tory party

joeysteele 31-03-2019 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10491671)
you are viewing that from a labour supporters perspective, not the demographic that will be choosing a new leader of the tory party

Well Gove certainly did so to Boris Johnson last time.

However all leadership elections have to involve some unpleasant aspects between candidates.
It can't be helped.
Sadly it's part of the nastier side of politics, which is just unfortunately getting nastier.

I liked neither left last time in the Conservative leadership but that Andrea Leadsom made a shocking play against Theresa May, as to Theresa May not being a Mother.

Spiteful woman.

Although possibly one of the most bizarre contests was when Ed Miliband chose to run against his Brother David.

I still would hope as I don't dislike the Conservative Party, they avoid a main frontrunner.

I wish some in the Party would encourage Rory Stewart for instance to stand.
Corbyn isn't likely to be there after this next election in another.

So in my own view.
With someone like Rory Stewart and a new Labour leader, it may be possible to take the ice chill and unnecessary nastiness out of politics.

arista 31-03-2019 08:11 AM

"With someone like Rory Stewart"

Yes he is a Great MP
it would be good if he became the new leader.

user104658 31-03-2019 08:19 AM

After the shameful, embarrassing mess of the last few years I think we all (and the country as an entity on the world stage) need for ALL of the current big names and faces to **** off to the back and shut their mouthes, and for new, respectable people to come to the front of politics. Realistically - do people in Britain have much respect left for the "big name" politicians after all of this? In either Conservative or Labour? It's been such a joke that it seems impossible for Boris or Gove or Smogg OR Corbyn etc. to do anything other than continue the pantomime.

The world is watching and we need to break the whole system down and bring some sensible, rational adults to the front line of politics if we ever want to be taken seriously again.

bots 31-03-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10491675)
After the shameful, embarrassing mess of the last few years I think we all (and the country as an entity on the world stage) need for ALL of the current big names and faces to **** off to the back and shut their mouthes, and for new, respectable people to come to the front of politics. Realistically - do people in Britain have much respect left for the "big name" politicians after all of this? In either Conservative or Labour? It's been such a joke that it seems impossible for Boris or Gove or Smogg OR Corbyn etc. to do anything other than continue the pantomime.

The world is watching and we need to break the whole system down and bring some sensible, rational adults to the front line of politics if we ever want to be taken seriously again.

I don't disagree with you TS, the current bunch of mp's are disgraceful representatives of the people. There may be the odd good one in there but they are few. We need a sea change in politics where our mp's are actually there to represent ALL of us, not just their own self interest and narrow agenda. The problem is that people are just so fed up now, that we are extremely vulnerable to radicals getting in if another election were held at this point. Our democracy and future is at breaking point

Twosugars 31-03-2019 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10491674)
"With someone like Rory Stewart"

Yes he is a Great MP
it would be good if he became the new leader.

I like him too.
But I'm afraid he may be too sensible for tories.

arista 01-04-2019 09:57 PM

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