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bots 17-04-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10514200)
...the Referendum voting can’t really be compared to any general election voting...it’s not an accurate comparison as how many votes in any of our lifetimes has there been to decide on our position in or out of the EU...only one...and probably only ever will be one in our lifetimes...

i've voted twice now :laugh:

Twosugars 17-04-2019 03:44 PM

Let's face it, leaving the EU does not make any economic sense, it's all about politics and visceral dislike of the EU. And some delusion about sovereignty. No country bound by any international agreements is fully sovereign.
But I'd rather work with and within Europe, our nearest neighbours, and decide things together than go it alone and have larger partners dictating things to me. Like it's happening now with the EU dictating to the UK. So much for the EU begging us for a deal :laugh: It will be China and the US next.

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10514232)
Umm...



So you won't assume that voters are typically uninformed but you'll believe that the people asking what the EU is are automatically remainers? Such rampant hypocrisy.

I was illustrating how pointless underscore and his sourceless graphic was, you have missed vthe point in your rush to score a pyrrhic point

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10514361)
Let's face it, leaving the EU does not make any economic sense, it's all about politics and visceral dislike of the EU. And some delusion about sovereignty. No country bound by any international agreements is fully sovereign.
But I'd rather work with and within Europe, our nearest neighbours, and decide things together than go it alone and have larger partners dictating things to me. Like it's happening now with the EU dictating to the UK. So much for the EU begging us for a deal :laugh: It will be China and the US next.

Is actually fair comment

Smithy 17-04-2019 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10514111)
no it does not as most of those questions were probably asked by people too young to vote unless you know otherwise?

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10514034)
"most people didn't know what they were voting for"

that is a personal assumption only

:skull::skull::skull:

The Slim Reaper 17-04-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10514361)
Let's face it, leaving the EU does not make any economic sense, it's all about politics and visceral dislike of the EU. And some delusion about sovereignty. No country bound by any international agreements is fully sovereign.
But I'd rather work with and within Europe, our nearest neighbours, and decide things together than go it alone and have larger partners dictating things to me. Like it's happening now with the EU dictating to the UK. So much for the EU begging us for a deal :laugh: It will be China and the US next.

The US have said if we screw up the border in Ireland there won't be a trade deal.

Oliver_W 17-04-2019 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10514190)
Well quite. Mind I do tend to research for general elections, but most of the stuff in manifestos is bollocks, except the stuff that would disadvantage the public, which always seems to get passed :bored:

Really really do NOT want a general election anytime soon, and its looking quite likely. I would have to spoil my ballot tbh, as none of them are worth voting for :/

Even if Theresa May does step down or gets ousted, that doesn't warrant a general election. We don't vote for the PM, we vote for the MP for our constituency. The PM represents the party with the most MPs.

reece(: 17-04-2019 04:06 PM

Struggling to see the link between people believing lies from the campaign to people not knowing what they were voting for. There's a difference :skull:

Cherie 17-04-2019 04:18 PM

We are literally leaving a cohort where the UK is a big player to become the USAs bitch :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2019 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10514412)
We are literally leaving a cohort where the UK is a big player to become the USAs bitch :laugh:

Well a wee club set up to protect German manufacturing and French Agriculture who look down their noses at us

BBDodge 17-04-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10514034)
"most people didn't know what they were voting for"

that is a personal assumption only

We didn't know the Government would be dithering around for another 2 years.

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2019 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BBDodge (Post 10514452)
We didn't know the Government would be dithering around for another 2 years.

You have the remain politicians to thank for that

Including TM

Tom4784 17-04-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10514370)
I was illustrating how pointless underscore and his sourceless graphic was, you have missed vthe point in your rush to score a pyrrhic point

Rushed justification after the fact.

Something isn't pointless just because you don't agree with it, these were commonly asked questions in the lead up to the vote. People were voting on something when a whole bunch of potential voters didn't know what the EU even was.

People are generally uninformed and it doesn't make them any less uninformed if they vote in a way you happen to like.

Twosugars 17-04-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10514459)
You have the remain politicians to thank for that

Including TM

not really

if erg and dup backed it it would pass
so why these keen leavers are not doing that
go and blame them

Tom4784 17-04-2019 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10514459)
You have the remain politicians to thank for that

Including TM

Yeah, totally the remainers fault, the leaver politcians are all so united in what they want brexit to be which is why they all voted the same way on the various brexit options.....Oh wait....


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