Charley admitted saying it before Emily did.......
plus it's not confusing at all, they screwed up....Again......... that's it.

Click Here:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SetoZgjcACA

this link also is not so clear, but has a few seconds extra at the beginning:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2l_v...elated&search=

I hear Emily say the word first.

Are you refering to something from the Live-Feed?






nodisharmony :angel:

she did milky it as much as she could but that no reason to kick her out
and if she said them thinks then it up 2 BB what they do

she isnt a fav and wont win anyway - so let he go out the normla way and get booed - because if she dosent she will think people like her

No I'm reffering to the fact that Charley clearly says "No way.......Yeah me I am A N"
(after Emily saying "I've heard other people say it in here" note she said "IN HERE")

if that is not true then why did she admit to saying it?

I thought we all dropped this discussion anyway?

If Charley is caling herself the (N) word, then she is offending herself.

But if she is not bothered about the word, then what about those watching the BB show??

But it was aired anyway?? That's pretty bad, isn't it?? I just can't work that out in my mind actually.

Endemol have made their decision & Emily is out & Charley stays in.

You are right, we have debated this:thumbs:





nodisharmony :angel:

If you are talking about when they are in the garden talking about it, just after it was said then this is what was said:

Emily actually says "someones already used that word in this house"

Charley then says "No way, yeah me, I'm a ******, I am one"

If you look on the youtube clip what I am referring to is what's said at the time 00:36.

Unless they have the same discussion again, you're misunderstood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2l_v...elated&search=

I have to confess I have heard Charley call others white trash - now it isnt about the words it is about the meaning behind them.

BB need to set standards and stick to them. I personally would be deeply offended if I was called white trash by someone. I find it offensive on every level.

that's all I was saying, if the word is offensive enough to have one housemate turfed out, then it really should be enough to turf the others out to, Charley isn't the be all and end al of the argument, as was stated by BB, "any racist remarks that may offend housemates or viewers will not be tolerated" (or something along those lines) which a lot of people were glossing over.

at least you know what I mean now :wink:

the problem with airing it, and not airing it, is that it would have made it sound worse if it was bleeped out......some people find that if a word is bleeped out it must be worse than it actually is, I do actually agree with their decision to show it unedited, they wouldn't bleep it out of a film or a stand up show.

and yes it's been debated to death, a lot of the same arguments going round and round. :thumbs2:

I agree that a racist remark against a white housemate should be taken, just as seriously.

I also agree that Charley isn't above any rule in BB

But Endemol follow protocol & they looked at Emily & threw her out. There have been plenty of complaints about that decision, but Endemol haven't much time for listening.

I have to say that showing the un-cut footage with the (N) word in-tact is disgraceful & as they made such a song & dance regarding CBB5, with Jade, Jo & Danielle, it is sickening.

What is worse, Emily or the CBB5 incident?

The (N) word is a Racist word.

But in CBB5, there was no Racist word & what little they had was ridiculous.





nodisharmony :angel:

The CBB5 incident was much worse, no I agree the "Racist" word was used way too much, but, add the "popadom" remark to just how bad the three girls were towards Shilpa and that was why people were complaining, And I agreed, I was saying to people that Channel 4 should have stepped in much earlier, not just let it get out of control the way it did.

Obviously you like Jade, I'm not going to tell you not to, I really don't, and never have, especially after seeing the way she was in "Back To Reality" on channel 5against Josie D'Arby (sp?) again not in a racist way.....but it just shows that she has to be the bully of the bunch, I also heard that she was the same in BB3 (was it that one?) where she bullied another housemate....(I don't know if that was true or not, but as I've seen the other incidents.....)

and of course the comments from the other 2 girls, acting as a gang, on one person is not something people want to see on the TV. and BB could have dealt with it much earlier......

they dealt with it early this time.....unfortunately I feel they have just gotten it wrong again. like I've said many times before punishing one person and letting the others slide is just wrong and makes the wrong statement.

errr, since when has 'white trash' not been racist???

DOH!!!! :conf:

A bit late with my reply, but here goes

It became a massive furore, especially with fanatics burning effigies in India & Gordon Brown sticking his nose in & the media blowing it all out of proportion & BB continually sticking with that theme of (Possible racial overtones) & (Highlighting bullying) It was a new shock to some, hense the thousands of complaints at that time.

What Emily said was a racist word, (N) word. What Jade, Jo & Danielle did was more about "not clicking" Three girl's with the same opinion of Shilpa Shetty.

Channel 4 trusted Endemol, but they know better today:rolleyes:

More of a sympathiser to herself and others who are in a similar situation, where unfairness & corruption is in play. Money is usually the "reason", but hey, we all know that part:rolleyes:

Giving the viewers what they want. Jade Goody has become a No.1 success story, for just being herself. Why act differently? It is just what her fans expect. Playing to the cameras

All of these incidents involved more-than-herself. She may be the voice-box, but the evidence is on Youtube.com & she had others who agreed with her opinion. Like I said, she knows what her fans & fans of the shows want

I have to disagree, it is exactly what viewers want. Trouble & Controversy makes viewers watch.

Even the non-fans

That would cost them money, not so attractive to them:rolleyes:

Ofcomwas watching & the Police too. Channel 4 got away with the past furore, just by making three apologies. If they did it again, it would be a hefty fine & certain resignations:wink:

Andy Duncan likes his job:wink:

Endemol will have their reasons, (Fair-or-not), Emily got thrown out, Charley has stayed in.

If you reallly want a full explaination, e-mail Endemol, Channel 4 or Ofcom & you will get a standard politically correct reply in a (Politician) style of writing, probably telling you nothing......What's new:rolleyes:






nodisharmony :angel:

Everyone here has spoken of Charley saying "White Trash" but I for one have not heard this said so I can speak of her without that tainted brush.

After watching Emilygate again it is quite easy to see that the girl used and said the word in a derogatory sense to demean Charley. She would not have said that to a white friend for instance contrary to how many times she says she said it in the past to her friends.

That argument is over thank goodness but I wanted to say something as viewing the you tube clip has helped me to analyse how I feel.

I would like to know or has anyone got any evidence, clips of Charley using unappropriate language for example. Because if that is the case then she is guilty as charged. If not, there is no basis for an argument here?

So you are saying that because YOU did not see or hear it that it didnt happen and can not be debated? hmm I dont think so, I heard her call Chanelle it, and IMO it is racist and she should be given the same treatment that Emily was given.

When did she call Chanelle white trash?