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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10594148)

Yes Corbyn does have some very dodgy ‘friends’ and does enjoy siding with anyone but Britain a lot of the time.

Also i saw the footage and it definitely shows a boat of people doing something very suspicious to a tanker.
I do think it is probably Iran and i’d be inclined to believe US military intelligence.

However on this issue i think Corbyn is right.
Extreme caution needs to be exercised.
We DO NOT want to rush into war with Iran.
It would be massive and hugely costly and bloody with no quick victory.It would play out in Iraq and Afghanistan too.
Iran is not like Iraq.It is a lot bigger with a much bigger population.
Its navy has a tactical advantage due to its location and the Persian gulf(an important oil route) would become a huge war zone.US ships could get trapped in there.
Iran has a big arsenal of missiles and a bigger army too.
Let’s try not to get into a war there.
I don’t think Trump wants war but the war mongers alongside him do.
It’s a dangerous situation and everything should be done to calm tensions.

Very fair post NM.
I can go with all you've said.

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10594148)

Yes Corbyn does have some very dodgy ‘friends’ and does enjoy siding with anyone but Britain a lot of the time.

Also i saw the footage and it definitely shows a boat of people doing something very suspicious to a tanker.
I do think it is probably Iran and i’d be inclined to believe US military intelligence.

However on this issue i think Corbyn is right.
Extreme caution needs to be exercised.
We DO NOT want to rush into war with Iran.
It would be massive and hugely costly and bloody with no quick victory.It would play out in Iraq and Afghanistan too.
Iran is not like Iraq.It is a lot bigger with a much bigger population.
Its navy has a tactical advantage due to its location and the Persian gulf(an important oil route) would become a huge war zone.US ships could get trapped in there.
Iran has a big arsenal of missiles and a bigger army too.
Let’s try not to get into a war there.
I don’t think Trump wants war but the war mongers alongside him do.
It’s a dangerous situation and everything should be done to calm tensions.

true but there has already been quite a lot of conflict in middle-east, and for that sake i hope they make correct decisions this time, everything like you say with calm tensions

and yeah going into war with Iran is stupid, they do have a big military force so that would most likely lead to the loss of many american soldiers

also Iran might have still an anger towards US that they (even though an accident) shot down a Iran Air passenger plane under stress, some years back, the USS Vincennes as i remember correctly

Nobody wants a war with Iran, but equally, they cannot be allowed to continue down their current path.

If America did go in to a war with Iran, it wouldn't be a conventional war. Nukes would be used, so we cannot view it in the same light as previous conflicts.

I don't think it's fair to say that a man who has sat down with China and north Korea is looking to be starting wars.

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10594155)

Its a bit silly to dismiss any evidence, no matter how compelling, because you don't like the source

Who suggested "dismissing" evidence? I agree with you but it's also "a bit silly" to make a snap judgement based on ONE piece of evidence and without bothering to fully examine that piece of evidence.

Evidence should be weighed with a level-head and action taken with consideration and caution. Appartently, Corbyn saying that makes him "a terrorists sympathiser RrrreeeEEeehhh!!11!1!". People seem to just adore being reactionary, over-dramatic and illogical... it's a pretty worrying trend, but I don't think it's anything new really. The new and scary thing is that the "people in charge" have jumped on the same bandwagon in the last few years :facepalm:.

It doesn't read like he's 'supporting terrorists' to me, it just reads like he's telling people not to be rash. Plus isn't there a lot of doubt around those tanker attacks anyway? Germany doubts it, even the owner of one of the tankers doubts it was Iran.

Better to wait and see than to jump to conclusions but since it's Corbyn, people who are opposed to him will instantly use it to make out that he is supporting terrorism.

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10594256)

I don't think it's fair to say that a man who has sat down with China and north Korea is looking to be starting wars.

Every president since Nixon "sat down" with China. But trump started the trade war

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10594341)

Every president since Nixon "sat down" with China. But trump started the trade war

+ Trump also insulted North Korean leader kim jong-un first, calling him ''little rocket man''

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10593408)

So we should just ignore all the other times that Corbyn has supported terrorists before believing others on countless occasions and assume he is genuine this time?

That's about the size of it.

Every time he supports a terrorist or a terrorist regime, we have to give him the benefit of the doubt and discount all the other evidence.