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montblanc 21-08-2019 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10662737)

:skull::skull::skull:

DouglasS 21-08-2019 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10662761)
not this being ur comeback bc you know she's right

Right about what?
Yeah Bayleigh only had one proper blowout? I haven’t argued against that whatsoeve

All I said is there are probably only two houseguests that could be labelled very vocal when in an argument (Bayleigh/Rockstar) from last season, most people were pretty tame.

Being maybe three weeks pregnant doesn’t excuse anything? It’s not like she was 40 weeks pregnant :laugh:

I don’t understand what you expect me to comeback to - no points or arguments against what I said have been posted

Moniqua 21-08-2019 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10662819)
Being maybe three weeks pregnant doesn’t excuse anything? It’s not like she was 40 weeks pregnant :laugh:

you are a WHITE. MAN.

stop trying to speak for black people's AND/OR women's experiences when your privileged ass will never know what it feels like to walk a day in their shoes.

knob :rolleyes:

DouglasS 21-08-2019 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Moniqua (Post 10662820)
you are a WHITE. MAN.

stop trying to speak for black people's AND/OR women's experiences when your privileged ass will never know what it feels like to walk a day in their shoes.

knob :rolleyes:

What for saying that behaviour shouldn’t be excused?
Just because she’s a black woman doesn’t mean bad behaviour should be excused regardless?

If you were to become a lawyer would your defence for a black man/woman had they been guilty of killing someone be that they are black and so they are entitled to do so and you’d call the judge privileged for sentencing them?

You speak no sense

sleleen 21-08-2019 11:38 PM

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JerseyWins 22-08-2019 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot (Post 10662704)
"He wasn't comparing, he was contrasting" is a particularly banal and egregious response because, again, the heart of the concern is that it was even done in the first place and that there's *still* speculation a full six weeks later about who The Real Kemi is behind closed doors. Her entire stint in the house consisted of the vast majority of the house waiting for her to blow up and snap and ~show her true colors~, and when she hasn't given them what they wanted they're still speculating and holding onto the possibility as to what she's really like on the outside. Like, no one's wondered who the real Bella is or who the real Sam is but some of them are still holding onto the hope that Kemi's secretly the angry black woman, probably as means to justify their feelings about her. Whether or not you want to call it racism, let's call a spade a spade and recognize the clear unconscious bias and stereotyping.

They've speculated and trash talked about Bella & Sam as well. People just don't care as much when that happens (and sure it possibly/probably hasn't happened as much, I don't really know but I have read more on twitter about houseguests talking about Kemi --- is that a houseguest obsession or fanbase obsession idk for sure). As for the contrast he made between Kemi's quiet personality and then imagining her like the fiery bloody-mouthed Bayleigh yelling at the TV screen, you can't just assume that to be a racial thing. It was him imagining her as the opposite to her actual personality, in a joking manner, that is what was seen for sure, and Bayleigh is a recent BBUS houseguest who had one of the craziest flip-outs in recent memory. Maybe subconsciously he/others have drawn that comparison to the latest black girl on the latest BBUS season but that's not something you can really bash --- there will often be subconscious biases & stereotyping without meaning any harm ie. the new nerdy guy often gets compared to the latest nerdy guy based on appearance alone, the new country boy (or redneck as a lot of people on here like to say) gets compared to the latest country boy, "southern belle" to latest southern belle etc. etc. the latter two are typically assumed to be racist pricks before the season even starts etc. etc.

Humans are observant and maybe sometimes wrongfully focus on some physical appearance - in this case we don't know for sure if that was the case or if Jackson was simply comparing polar opposite personalities from his season to the last season of Big Brother. Looking at context, he wasn't bashing Kemi as an Angry Black Woman, he called her quiet and playfully imagined her pulling a 180 yelling at the TV screen. Quiet people get jokingly assumed to be the opposite behind closed doors all the time usually as a joke as it was in this case as well. Racism really hasn't been seen at all from Jackson either but was assumed from as early as his Camp Comeback noms. :rolleyes: (Maybe some other questionable behavior at times but that's arguable and besides the point of this thread)

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10662724)
I am no Bayleigh fan, but this isn’t true. Bayleigh was not aggressive. Nobody was aggressive last season from what I remember. Iirc, she raised her voice like once? If that makes someone aggressive then idk anymore. I take it that means Nick and Jack are also aggressive then, seeing as Nick shouted at Christie last night, and Jack, well, less said about him the better tbqh :idc:

To be fair I think it's safe/fair to say Bayleigh, Nick, Christie & Jack are all subjectively aggressive from their respective blowup(s) and/or attitudes and/or demeanors towards people :shrug:

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Originally Posted by sleleen (Post 10662770)
Also can you elaborate on how Christie & Kat are worse than Jack & Jackson?

Kat was obsessed with Kemi, mocked her in her bathing suit (playfully - people probably realized that just because it wasn't Jackson lol), trash talked her all the time. Jack & Christie had so many poor things to say about Kemi (shown on the show and all). I said all 3 have been much worse than anything Jackson has said about Kemi, which is the truth. If you are oblivious to only Christie & Kat specifically of those 4 then that proves my theory on TIBB's own biases.

For the record I don't think any of Kat/Christie/Jack were really that bad either but it's just funny how Jackson gets a lot of slack here for basically nothing negative regarding Kemi from his end, especially compared to others in that house.

JerseyWins 22-08-2019 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10662716)
kat and christie continue tew be lower than they would be in my rankings, but that is irrelevant considering the thread was made about them still being pressed and making racist comments about kemi, when t’one who made t’comments was jackson, why would we start talking about Christie or Kat?

That's my point though. There are no threads on Kat & Christie and no discussion of it at all on the live feed thread, etc. When the tiniest situation comes out from Jackson, the rants and "trash" comments ensue. I'd love to defend someone like Kat but I actually never even have to because that's not TIBB's shtick to go after the female douchebro that has some "questionably problematic" behavior --- (disclaimer: it really isn't that problematic but that's probably already seen when it's a female). It's the straight white males they're after that I then feel obligated to defend over and over and over again because they're constantly not as bad as advertised on tibb ffs :joker:

To TIBB: Stop making things bigger than they are when it's a specific person just because people around here have some kind of obsessive major HATRED for the typical straight white bro. :shrug:

brat. 22-08-2019 07:36 AM

jersey ah cannot tell if you are being serious right now, are you really just going to ignore all the things ah pointed out jackson has said? Sis, Nick, Bella, Kat, Christie have all said horrible things but none of them have said as much as Jack, closely followed by Jackson, so obviously there will be threads about people hew talk the most ****

this thread was made at the fact they are STILL talking about kemi in a deregotary way, and the only one who said anything bad as jackson, so obviously we will talk about that

brat. 22-08-2019 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10662876)
Kat was obsessed with Kemi, mocked her in her bathing suit (playfully - people probably realized that just because it wasn't Jackson lol), trash talked her all the time.

ah know you aren’t comparing that bathing suit comment to jackson saying jess has a train wreck of a body, what has david been in prison for, spitting on a dog is t’way to train him, comparing kemi to t’onleh black female houseguest last year and referring to ha moment when she was pregnant

neaux one talked about kemi as much as jack, followed by jacksoon

brat. 22-08-2019 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10662819)
Being maybe three weeks pregnant doesn’t excuse anything? It’s not like she was 40 weeks pregnant :laugh:

well it does considering it’s basic biology?

DouglasS 22-08-2019 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10662913)
well it does considering it’s basic biology?

What are you on about?
Being three weeks pregnant does not dismiss terrible/aggressive behaviour?

I don’t get what your post is about it doesn’t seem to make sense

The mood swings also are not typically even prevalent until roughly 6-8 weeks into the first trimester

Either way it cannot be excused

DouglasS 22-08-2019 08:09 AM

I don’t know what argument you’re referring to but who spits on dogs

JerseyWins 22-08-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10662910)
jersey ah cannot tell if you are being serious right now, are you really just going to ignore all the things ah pointed out jackson has said? Sis, Nick, Bella, Kat, Christie have all said horrible things but none of them have said as much as Jack, closely followed by Jackson, so obviously there will be threads about people hew talk the most ****

this thread was made at the fact they are STILL talking about kemi in a deregotary way, and the only one who said anything bad as jackson, so obviously we will talk about that

There are countless tweets I have read about OTHERS in that house talking about Kemi, not Jackson. If you’re unaware about the others but know all about everything Jackson is saying then idk what to tell you :shrug:

The other things about Jackson is a totally different topic to what’s being criticized here. :skull: Wasn’t it Jack & Christie who thought of her as aggressive for little to no reason? Jackson made a joke about her being the opposite as her quiet self “behind closed doors” (a joke that is often made & imagined for quiet people). It’s just in good fun, not racially (or negatively at all) motivated ffs :joker:

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Originally Posted by brat. (Post 10662912)
ah know you aren’t comparing that bathing suit comment to jackson saying jess has a train wreck of a body, what has david been in prison for, spitting on a dog is t’way to train him, comparing kemi to t’onleh black female houseguest last year and referring to ha moment when she was pregnant

neaux one talked about kemi as much as jack, followed by jacksoon

*No one has talked about Kemi as much as Jackson besides Jack*
*Entire post is about things completely unrelated to Kemi besides this one incident*

:conf: :joker:

JerseyWins 22-08-2019 02:39 PM

Btw again, you don’t have to convince me about these others’ comments not being that big of a deal either when I already think that. It’s just silly to then criticize & bash Jackson, make a thread to discuss it and all, for a little innocent comment like this :shrug: And furthermore they talk about them all, maybe Kemi the most, but there’s a lot of time to talk and the comments for the most part aren’t awful at all. The fans remain more pressed than the actual houseguests :skull:

sleleen 22-08-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10663108)
Btw again, you don’t have to convince me about these others’ comments not being that big of a deal either when I already think that. It’s just silly to then criticize & bash Jackson, make a thread to discuss it and all, for a little innocent comment like this :shrug: And furthermore they talk about them all, maybe Kemi the most, but there’s a lot of time to talk and the comments for the most part aren’t awful at all. The fans remain more pressed than the actual houseguests :skull:

It wasn’t an ‘innocent’ comment tho


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