Well he never blacked up for that character either, it's the attitude to blackface was reacting to.
As said it was a character performance and on the cusp of acceptability in relation to cultural appropriation so I'm not sure.
Was it insensitive? In hindsight yes, has he issued an apology? Yes, Do I think it's a reason to oust him from his position? No.

I have never mentioned ousting him from his position, but hypocrite does spring to mind, I don't think the fact that it was '18 years ago' which seems to be the over riding rebuttal for this has any bearing whatsoever

Aladdin wasnt even black though was he? He was Arabian

I didn't say you had ...that is the feeling in the media this morning however.
Who is a hypocrite him or me? ... Social and cultural attitudes change, people can change too they mature, learn and grow in that time no matter how old they are or what political experience they've had. 18 years is almost a generation. * Diversity and inclusion lesson 1.

we are talking about Trudeau Kizzy, not about you, he was teaching at time time, very odd behaviour

Well cucumbers aren't very happy Alf :laugh::wavey:

You did ask me whether I would have done the same cherie so your accusation wasn't clear.
Yes he was, as he's said at the time he didn't think it racist. . Now he does.
I think we're just going round in circles now.

No, your comparison was ludicrous, nobody has ever gotten offended by foundation, the attempt to try and simplify and excuse blackface is shocking.

It's the same tactic as "You won't even be able to look at a girl soon" to try and excuse sexual harassment. Liken it to something stupid to try and minimise

Who cares? He's cringey af and borderline embarrassing for Canada, but this incident shouldn't affect people's votes, it should come down to policy.

People who think he should resign are basically saying that if someone does one stupid thing, they should never work again. And saying that is pretty stupid.

I asked you kizzy if you would have done the same thing 18 years ago, my point was you are a similar age to him, it wasn't acceptable in any shape or form 18 years ago, so not sure why people are trying to say it was and I am 100 per cent sure you wouldn't have so I don't get the defence, or that he was learning about the world and progressing :laugh:

What about prince harry and his nazi uniform? How old was he? Is it still held against him?

Why are you asking me if you already know what I'd do? I'll leave you to talk to yourself then seeing as you're answering for me now :laugh: I've had my say on this anyway.

more problems for the PM

Jesus! What next, a video of him singing Day-O?

Yes could be.

I answered for you as you didn’t answer my question

20...

To be honest, I don't think there's many holding what Trudeau did against him. It's just more about his hypocrisy.

In a sane World, we know that all he did was attend a fancy dress party, in a sane World people don't apologise for doing that. But he did apologise, which tells us we're not living in a sane World.

and there is a video lool

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cp...e52b6a1694.jpg

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is facing a third allegation of wearing racist attire when he was younger.

A video has emerged which shows him with "blackface" - only a day after he apologised for two similar episodes.

His Liberal Party has confirmed that the latest video is genuine and dates from the early 1990s.

The revelations come in the middle of campaigning for the 21 October election when Mr Trudeau hopes to win a second term.

What is in the latest video to emerge?
The footage, first obtained by Global News, shows Mr Trudeau in a white t-shirt and torn jeans.

His face and limbs appear to be covered in black make-up. He is seen laughing, throwing his hands in the air, sticking his tongue out and pulling faces.

Mr Trudeau would have been in his late teens or early 20s.

What about the other episodes?
On Wednesday, the embattled PM apologised for wearing "brownface" make-up at a gala at a private Vancouver school where he taught nearly two decades ago.

The 2001 yearbook picture obtained by Time Magazine shows Mr Trudeau, then aged 29, with skin-darkening make-up on his face and hands at the West Point Grey Academy.

Addressing the image, Mr Trudeau said he "deeply regretted" his actions and "should have known better".


The second image to emerge on Wednesday shows Mr Trudeau performing in a talent show as a student at high school.

He wore "blackface" and sang Day-O, a Jamaican folk song popularised by American civil rights activist Harry Belafonte.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49758613

It is starting to look like a bit of a fetish for him now. Who knows? Maybe he is a massive racist behind closed doors, it wouldn't surprise me if he is.

Rules are being rewritten these days. People are far more sensitive about their heritage.
I dont think this is a bad or good thing, it just is.
Look at actors, there was a scandal when non Asian actors played Asian roles and recently in london where there was no Jewish person playing in a Jewish musical.
We will need to accept the new rules. I have no problem with it tbh.

Day-O , sang by him

Shocker

Hmm, I think the important part of this is that he apologised and he's pretty much shown through his policies and his term that he's very much an ally of diversity. If these photos still reflected who he is today then he should be hung out and left to dry for it but I don't think it does.

I don't see the point of dragging someone over the coals for something they did 20+ years ago IF they've shown they've changed and grown. Hopefully he can make amends for the past and what is an obviously well timed attack from the right and their constant faux outrage will fall flat. If he was still that same person then drag away but I don't think that's the case.

But in his case he is so against Racism, now
and its a Mega Topic in the Election Battle
on right now in Canada.

He's grown as a PERSON

Unlike some


Well done Justin

He's KKK. It's all Eyes Wide Shut. Listen to Kubrick, he knew the score.

You see Arista, there's this thing called personal growth and it allows us to change over time as we grow physically, emotionally and mentally as we deal with different obstacles and situations in life.

Unless there's evidence proving that he's still the idiot he was when he took these photos then this is nothing more than an attack and a hypocritical amount of faux outrage on the part of the right

Is it you or the strong spirit Arista mentioned talking?

Translated. "It's all the Rights (whoever they are) fault that Trudeau decided to Black up."

I thought it might be.

Brush up on your reading comprehension, Alf.

I guess Jim Davidson had some personal growth as well, given he no longer uses his Chalky gags

Trudeau is now saying he can't remember how many times he did blackface, that implies he did it a lot. In a political family that's quite an admission

Hes unapologetic about that, he's also homophobic and an Al round thoroughly horrible bloke.

I agree, most people in the past do not know that black face is a thing? I had never heard of it until about 5 years ago, I doubt very many people knew of it in 2002? Everything people have done in the past is racist/some form of ist now. When in reality people are just unaware of these rules that have come of light over the past decade, no harm is usually ever meant

The black and white minstrel show was cancelled in 1978 because it was seen as racist and offensive .... 1978

From wikipedia

The show's premise began to be seen as offensive and racist on account of its portrayal of blacked-up characters behaving in a stereotypical manner. After the murder in Alabama in 1963 of 35-year-old white postal worker William Lewis Moore, who was on a protest march against segregation in the American South, the satirical show That Was the Week That Was did a sketch in which Millicent Martin dressed as Uncle Sam and sang a parody of I Wanna Go Back to Mississippi ("Where the scent of blossom kissed the evening breeze / Where the Mississippi mud / Seems to mingle with the blood / Of the <censored> that are hanging from the branches of the trees[8]) accompanied by minstrel singers in blackface ("... we hate all the <censored> and the Catholics and the Jews / Where we welcome any man / Who is strong and white and belongs to the Ku Klux Klan"), parodying the Black and White Minstrels supposed trivialising of southern U.S. racism.[9][10]

A petition against the show was received by the BBC from the Campaign Against Racial Discrimination in 1967.[11] In 1969, due to continuing accusations of racism, Music Music Music, a spin-off series in which the minstrels appeared without their blackface make-up, replaced The Black and White Minstrel Show. However after one series, The Black and White Minstrel Show returned.

Since its cancellation in 1978, The Black and White Minstrel Show has come to be seen widely as an embarrassment, despite its huge popularity at the time.[12][13]

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I can definitely remember repeats being shown in the mid eighties but the show was cancelled all the way back in 1978. Its a thought for all those who say this is some kind of new phenomenon The show was still popular when it was cancelled so good that they didnt care how much money it made, it had to go anyway.

Why are the pictures in black and white? They had colour photos even back in the early 2000s...