Ch4HD news just confirmed it is a Refrigerated Lorry.

https://e3.365dm.com/19/10/768x432/s...20191023172115
[The lorry and its container were
removed from the scene in Essex]

So sad all those lives lost :/

The lorry driver has been released without charge, but due to the media everyone now thinks hes a murderer, mud sticks.

I was surprised that he was arrested on suspicion of murder. Murder means he intended for them to die, that it was pre-meditated. And now they've released him? After his name and photo's been published everywhere. Just look at the conclusions reached in this thread.

First they said it came in via Hollyhead, then they thought it came across the channel from Belgium... it was registered in Bulgaria two years ago and hasn't been in that country since.

It's as mysterious as it is horrific.

I am so shocked and saddened by this story. I looked into it and it seems that the container was shipped over but not with the lorry, it was only attached to the lorry when it was already in the UK, is that right? Then the deaths would have been caused by whoever shipped it over?

People are making jokes/flaming in the comments of Mo's instagram pictures, it's awful that his name and social media were posted by news companies if he is innocent of any crimes.

I find it odd why people are so shocked by this, but loads of 'economic migrants' and their children die regularly from drowning crossing to the UK in dingies, which are equally horrific and tragic deaths... and there just isn't the same reaction imo.

How many have died crossing the channel in dinghies?

I suspect what happened was this guy was probably offered a significant amount of money to pick up a container 'no questions asked'..

I am horrified by all deaths caused by there not being an easy legal way for desperate people to get out of dangerous countries. It hasn't been established whether or not the people in the lorry were migrants though. They could have been in there against their will.

Mo will be suing I expect and good luck to him, bad enough that he would have been the first to find the bodies but to be inaccurately named by the media as well as his address given out

He's still being questioned and his home is being searched, I expect suing will be the least of his worries..

Didn't Josy say he was released without charge? I haven't seen the news yet, so I am going by Tibb fake news :hmph:

Mo the patsy...at least he had the decency to phone the authorities when he found out what he was carrying.

But due to public outcry he will be punished severely...poor ****.

maybe but he obviously checked the back and phoned for an ambulance straight off

It said on the News that he picked up a sealed container with his tractor unit. And some of his lorry driver mates said that it wasn't unusual for them to come to England and pick up a cargo.

Where it was found is a sleeping point for drivers..I know because my footsteps passed that very spot every morning for 4 years.

[The Bulgarian ministry of foreign affairs
said the Scania truck was
registered in Varna,
on the east coast of the country,
under the name of a company owned
by an Irish citizen.
Police said it was "highly unlikely"
the victims were Bulgarians, the ministry added.]

Typical Sun headline, it wasn’t his truck was it :bored:

He was the Driver
Bulgaria to Essex

On second thoughts, it is strange papers just went ahead publishing his name just like that. The investigation has just begun. And why the initial charge was murder not manslaughter?
Odd.

He collected the container from Purfleet.

Typical Sun headline, have they learned nothing?

Yes Purfleet
to Essex


Thank You for Correcting me

You're welcome, arista. Actually Purfleet is in Essex.

Yes of course
well known zone

...the face of news media is becoming similar to the face of social media and it’s so potentially damaging to lives...it’s easy to connect the small amount of information to know who the driver was ...but that’s all that appears to be known...other than he’s giving whatever information he has to the police...which he obviously would...the police have said that the investigations will be very lengthy, that there is so much that is unknown atm...so it seems really bizarre that a murder charge is already being stated...we don’t even know if those poor people were living when their bodies entered the container...we barely know anything at all...there will be extensive investigations before even the police know anything...


...I’m not confident that any/all of those people will be able to be identified and their families informed, which is incredibly sad...

...on a separate note, it’s made me think also of those who do survive a journey in a container such as this...and as well as dehydration and physical issues resulting from the journey conditions...the emotional/psychological issues must quite often be unthinkable as well...all terrible sad...

...the emotional support needed for the emergency services attending as well.../...horrendous for them...:sad:..

SkyNewsHD
just reported the dead are
Chinese Nationals

I don't think anyone was expecting it to be Chinese Nationals

No, that is surprising

i'd say if the driver is indeed guilty of murder, it would be ''multiple homicide'' and i guess for multiple homicides at least in america some get life sentences in prison

The political situation (Hong Kong's resistance) is going to make this much, much more common in the coming years. China has thus far done a very good job of keeping its main population "patriotic" and out of the loop, but the news about Hong Kong is spreading in China even with the Great Firewall in place. There are 1.4 billion people in china... if even 0.1% of them were to want to leave, that's well over a million people. Staggering numbers really.

Currently, I'm actually very surprised there aren't SIGNIFICANTLY more refugees coming in from Hong Kong. Actually, do we know if these "Chinese nationals" are actually from Hong Kong rather than "mainland" China?

Also I would add, I think Britain should be offering asylum to people from Hong Kong without reservation. A huge number of Hong Kong citizens did not want to leave British rule. I honestly think if the eyes of the world weren't on them at the moment, there would have been an unprecedented violence by now.

They were found Frozen to Death
at -25.

‘In 2000, 58 Chinese migrants were found suffocated to death in a lorry at Dover. In 2015, the bodies of 71 people were found in an abandoned lorry on an Austrian motorway. Police suspected the vehicle was part of a Bulgarian-Hungarian human trafficking operation’

I agree. We take people from countries with no connection to our own it's only right we should offer them asylum, if that's what they want.

The saddest part is, I think HK people are proud of and love Hong Kong and what they really want is to be able to resist direct Chinese rule and continue as they are... and they are trying... but I just don't know how long they can possibly keep it up with China being so huge.