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The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733670)
the same time as a tory one will be called a bigot a racist, a misogynist and a Islamophobe i guess

Johnsons own words did that.

Shaun 13-12-2019 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733670)
the same time as a tory one will be called a bigot a racist, a misogynist and a Islamophobe i guess

Point was about the literal news media rather than some people on Twitter, but ok

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 10733673)
Point was about the literal news media rather than some people on Twitter, but ok

yes the guardian, independant, mirror, Daily record, channel 4 the BBC , CNN

how do they sound for you?

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733672)
Johnsons own words did that.

yes and corbyns actions caused his

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733677)
yes and corbyns actions caused his

*inserts FB list of people he stood next to

GoldHeart 13-12-2019 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733670)
the same time as a tory one will be called a bigot a racist, a misogynist and a Islamophobe i guess

The truth hurts doesn't it ::pat: , Johnson is all those things !.

jet 13-12-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733677)
yes and corbyns actions caused his

Exactly, and now he's getting his just desserts at last. 'Your sins will find you out' as the saying goes. But I'm sure his anti semite and terrorist chums will comfort him.:smug:

Scarlett. 13-12-2019 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733670)
the same time as a tory one will be called a bigot a racist, a misogynist and a Islamophobe i guess

Don't forget he is also a thug

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10733761)
Exactly, and now he's getting his just desserts at last. 'Your sins will find you out' as the saying goes. But I'm sure his anti semite and terrorist chums will comfort him.:smug:

What are the sins of the millions more homeless people? What are the sins of the food bank users? What were the sins of disabled people that chose to end their lives rather than deal with tory heartlessness?

Twosugars 13-12-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10733639)
Corbyn is not going
until a few months

That's crazy.

They will want a proper leadership campaign. Like the cons had in the summer. Remember?
Didn't hear you objecting then.

Twosugars 13-12-2019 03:53 PM

Uncanny

jet 13-12-2019 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733770)
What are the sins of the millions more homeless people? What are the sins of the food bank users? What were the sins of disabled people that chose to end their lives rather than deal with tory heartlessness?

It’s much more complex than you seem to think...and how do you know a Labour gov for the past 10 yrs would have fared any better?
The Welsh NHS is in a much worse state then the rest of the UK's, and it has been Labour run since 1999....

The last Labour gov left a mountain of debt that the Tories had to sort out, as per usual. You also have to factor in the deluge of immigrants and an aging population that are putting the NHS under terrible strain. No gov wants to be deliberately evil to their citizens, to think so is just nonsense.

Let’s see what the Tories can do about it this time around before we damn them.

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10733800)
It’s much more complex than you seem to think...and how do you know a Labour gov for the past 10 yrs would have fared any better?
The Welsh NHS is in a much worse state then the rest of the UK's, and it has been Labour run since 1999....

The last Labour gov left a mountain of debt that the Tories had to sort out, as per usual. You also have to factor in the deluge of immigrants and an aging population that are putting the NHS under terrible strain. No gov wants to be deliberately evil to their citizens, to think so is just nonsense.

Let’s see what the Tories can do about it this time around before we damn them.

The tories have spent more and added more debt, but the bit in bold gets to the crux of the matter. Enjoy your weekend.

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733810)
The tories have spent more and added more debt, but the bit in bold gets to the crux of the matter. Enjoy your weekend.

Do you know how many illegal immigrants used NHS services in the last 10 years?

jet 13-12-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733810)
The tories have spent more and added more debt, but the bit in bold gets to the crux of the matter. Enjoy your weekend.

Does it? How so?

thesheriff443 13-12-2019 05:01 PM

Corbyn was like having a rotting dead cow on the table while holding a dinner party for vegetarians.

He should of been got rid off a long time ago.

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733813)
Do you know how many illegal immigrants used NHS services in the last 10 years?

What tax rates are corporations like Apple and starbucks paying?

GoldHeart 13-12-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733813)
Do you know how many illegal immigrants used NHS services in the last 10 years?

Do you have any idea how much money big co operations have!!! , now after this Tory win . the rich just get richer ! .

UserSince2005 13-12-2019 05:07 PM

bye bitch

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10733825)
Do you have any idea how much money big co operations have!!! , now after this Tory win . the rich just get richer ! .

Its "the rich" that provide the jobs for others who do you work for?

GoldHeart 13-12-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733828)
Its "the rich" that provide the jobs for others who do you work for?

They also don't pay tax !

jet 13-12-2019 05:13 PM

Slim Reaper, you didn't say what you thought of the much worse state of the Welsh NHS under Labour....

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733828)
Its "the rich" that provide the jobs for others who do you work for?

I never thought for a second I'd ever see you using the language of serfs. Did the rich build all their own infrastructure too? Their own roads to get product to market? Mike Ashley - a billionaire, fills out his warehouses with people on zero-hour contracts. How are they helping people?

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10733830)
They also don't pay tax !

WHo dont?

"the rich" is not really anything other than a slogan from a left wing rally. DO you mean surgeons, judges, police chiefs, doctors?

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10733831)
Slim Reaper, you didn't say what you thought of the much worse state of the Welsh NHS under Labour....

Where does the funding come from?

GoldHeart 13-12-2019 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733833)
WHo dont?

"the rich" is not really anything other than a slogan from a left wing rally. DO you mean surgeons, judges, police chiefs, doctors?

Doctors,nurses , police you name it those are the people we need more of but due to cuts they're very few of them.

Where's all these extra 50 ,000nurses that Johnson promises ??? The delusion is real! :crazy:

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10733837)
Doctors,nurses , police you name it those are the people we need more of but due to cuts they're very few of them.

Where's all these extra 50 nurses that Johnson promises ??? The delusion is real! :crazy:

aha you got me there:blush:


there is no way Boris can get 50 nurses in the next term - what fresh madness is this?

GoldHeart 13-12-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733839)
aha you got me there:blush:


there is no way Boris can get 50 nurses in the next term - what fresh madness is this?

I said 50,000 I edited it

Liam- 13-12-2019 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733835)
Where does the funding come from?

Westminster and it was cut by about 41% and from experience, they’re still doing their best under tremendous strain

The Slim Reaper 13-12-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10733856)
Westminster and it was cut by about 41% and from experience, they’re still doing their best under tremendous strain

To be fair, they also are a separate entity to a degree, but funding is governed by a specific formula that isn't a needs based system, which equals more underfunding for Da Wales.

Crimson Dynamo 13-12-2019 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10733856)
Westminster and it was cut by about 41% and from experience, they’re still doing their best under tremendous strain

how do you know they are doing their best?


they may be very poorly run.?

jet 13-12-2019 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733835)
Where does the funding come from?

NHS Wales Funding
NHS Wales receives the majority of its funding from the Welsh Government. This takes the following forms:

Revenue allocations to local health boards to secure hospital, community and primary care services for their resident populations
Capital allocations to local health boards and NHS Trusts for operational and strategic capital developments
Targeted funding for health improvement and other Welsh Government initiatives.

While funding comes from Westminster, the Welsh Gov decides where it is allocated, it may not be used to boost their NHS suffciently.

Liam- 13-12-2019 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733876)
how do you know they are doing their best?


they may be very poorly run.?

Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve

Mystic Mock 13-12-2019 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10733474)
what media?

tv, press, online?

and who in those sections?

Newspapers, Sky News, and BBC News all branding Corbyn as a terrorist sympathizer and a lunatic.

It makes the campaign against Ed Miliband look mild in comparison.:joker:

Tbh it makes no sense to me why the Media went like that either as Boris was gonna win this Election anyway.

Oliver_W 13-12-2019 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10733891)
Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve

When people say the NHS is being poorly run, they're not referring to the front line medical staff, who are literal incarnate angels. They're talking abo non-clinical staff above them who make decisions regarding tohow things are run.

Speedy recovery to your mum<3

Marsh. 13-12-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10734117)
When people say the NHS is being poorly run, they're not referring to the front line medical staff, who are literal incarnate angels. They're talking abo non-clinical staff above them who make decisions regarding tohow things are run.

Speedy recovery to your mum<3

Hard to make decisions that won't in some way be conceived as poor when they are not given the funds to allow all facets of the NHS to run as they should and are instead having to pick and choose what the pittance of a pot they get is spent on.

SherzyK 13-12-2019 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10733891)
Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve

Nothing but respect for you Liam. Wishing your mother a very swift recovery <3

Ammi 14-12-2019 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10733891)
Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve

...:hug:...I agree, the heart and soul of the NHS is still there in many ways and clinging on because so many staff, don’t work ‘for a salary’...they work for a belief...like your mum, I’m one of the fortunate ones, Liam...in that my care was amazing...but I do know others whose experience has not been the same..or even nearly the same, sadly...at what is some of the most terrifying times in their lives and I know that many NHS staff feel so deflated about what’s happening around them as well...the NHS service has been such a pride, such an ideal that other countries have never achieved in the same way...it really has been the perfect example of the Great in Great Britain...we have something that has always been the best in the world for our parents, our grandparents etc...and it’s something that our children deserve to experience as well...but the image that Boris was shown of that child, paints an entirely different NHS under a Conservative rule...

...I’m not a Jeremy Corbyn fan, I will say that...I never have been...but him being the wrong person to lead the country, doesn’t make Boris any less wrong, is the thing...two wrongs do not make a leader that we deserve...

Ammi 14-12-2019 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10733810)
The tories have spent more and added more debt, but the bit in bold gets to the crux of the matter. Enjoy your weekend.

...I recall reading some articles during the Windrush scandal...that some people were being denied healthcare ...I mean, all of a sudden it was...oh no, sorry...you’re not entitled, we need to investigate this or whatever...so, ‘immigrants are devouring our NHS resources..’...makes no sense at all...the world is full of ‘truths’, we’ll just all find the ones we gel with the most, I guess...

bots 14-12-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10734160)
...I’m not a Jeremy Corbyn fan, I will say that...I never have been...but him being the wrong person to lead the country, doesn’t make Boris any less wrong, is the thing...two wrongs do not make a leader that we deserve...

That's why I couldn't bring myself to vote in this election. To actively support any of the offerings is to lend my endorsement of them, and I'm not going to do that.

I think we are stuck in this rut for at least another 10 years now., but I look around the world and don't really see a better option. For many of them, the cracks are already showing, or they are frantically trying to paper over them. It's a pretty grim time


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