See how much easier it is to tell other people to get over it?

No ones blaming the government for their lifestyle choices, they're blaming them for the honest and open attack on the poor an disabled over the last 10 years.

This is the reason progressive politics fail. This attitude. God forbid you or yours ever need help.

Yet it was Labour who started privatising the NHS in the first place..

'New" labour who as we know now weren't ever Labour at all.

I said nothing about the NHS in that post. Ahh yes, we've been told that the last 10 years aren't enough to judge the tories on, but stuff from 15 years ago on the labour side is damning. Even you must realise that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Oh we've been rock bottom and we got out of it by working hard,no one is saying the poor shouldn't get help ,of course they should,but many people are not poor they are just lazy.

The people who are lazy and scrounge from the government are in the minority, yet people use them as an excuse to demonise everyone that needs help, it’s appalling

No one is using them but people always seem to want blame someone else for their problems when SOMETIMES it is solely down to them .

You mean like the bankers who caused the crisis.
And yet we bailed them out and paid for it with austerity.
The rich ****ed up, the poor paid. Tory justice.

where are you getting this brand new information from?

Tbf the Tories have had 9 years, I think that people have a right at this point to complain about their mistreatment of a lot of people in this country.

So you think people should struggle to live because they made a mistake in their lifestyle choices? What happened to try and give people a second chance?

Also I love how people seem to think that it's so easy to just get a job.:joker:

If you voted Tory, you oppose the NHS, you oppose public services and you oppose helping the vulnerable. You can lie and say otherwise but your actions speak louder than words.

Tories have been cutting funding for the NHS and public services since they took power in 2010 so by voting for them, you've okayed such measures. A Tory voter that claims to care about the NHS or public services is a liar.

It’s not always that simple. Yes for some people it can be, they can experience an episode of poverty episodically and have ways and means of getting their way out. Unfortunately for many they are born in a cycle of poverty, look it up, it’s not fiction it’s fact.

Privileged ignorance. A lot of people who claim that finding work is easy haven't done it in today's climates or has relied on pre-formed professional relationships or bonds to find something. People who act like finding a job is easy would likely live long term on the benefits they like to demonise others for being on if they had to start over fresh and find a job in today's market.

They just don't live in the real world when it comes to the job market.

This.

...we were a society who looked out for and helped those who had less and who struggled more...we admired the strength of their characters through their struggles and we understood...’there but for the grace of God, go I..’...?...now, those people appear to be looked down on/thought lesser than because ‘they’re not trying hard enough’ or whatever...?...some people try so hard and feel so worthless and so despaired that they end their lives...and still the judgement and dehumanising continues...are these the great British values of today that are being fought so hard to preserve...


...it’s very, very sad...how insular and self serving our society has become ..:sad:..

Bollox and you know it .


Boris is gonna revive the NHS and the other services and the best part of all that will be seeing thousands of labour doubters squirming ..

Edit

I’ve just seen Richard Burgon being interviewed by Sophie Ridge on Sky News .. well she couldn’t interview him as appears to be a robot ( with some serious glitches ) .

What a complete idiot ..

Boris must be praying this chump is the next Labour leader




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Yes that must be it, they've spent years running it down to revive it.. :/

Well you are right but they weren't lead by Boris,at least give him a chance, if he's crap he can be kicked out,no one knows what sort of PM he will be now,his hands were kind of tied before over Brexit, lets just see what happens.

...Boris is a man who even in his campaign to be leader... couldn’t look at or comment on the image of a child laying on a hospital floor...what was more sickening..the child’s image or the lack of concern shown by ‘our leader’ for a child with suspected pneumonia and his ‘waiting time’ in hospital...people have every reason to be concerned, to be devastated and deflated and that should be respected...many people have ‘waited to see what happens’ in their poverty under a Conservative government in this country...they’ve waited and they’ve waited and they’ve waited...and they have every right to have no faith in someone who has so far, given us nothing but words and slogans...when presented with a sick child, an opportunity for action...even a ‘media opportunity’...he turned his face away...

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like what Boris said, more unity pls


FINALLY the thing they realize what you need to get brexit done, which is getting unity in britain

Do you really think they are been cutting it for **** and giggles?

Labour bankrupt the country, we had a deficit to repay, now with the good work of the Tories the country is in a much better position and Boris has promised to spend more on the NHS.

Give him time.

i think it is a tiny percentage of people across the political spectrum that oppose the NHS, that is just an incorrect statement. There are differing views on how it should be managed which is no great surprise given it's enormous size, but that in no way suggests people oppose it.

The tories have exploded the debt and deficit. Labour had to take the hit because of the financial crisis. Tories cut services purely because of ideological reasons. You really have no idea how much worse the financial situation is after a decade of tory rule? That would be cute if it didn't perfectly sum up the electorate.

Of course they're not doing it for ****s and giggles, they're doing it so they can sell it of piece by piece to their rich buddies and America.

Stop blaming Labour for ****, they've not been in power for nearly a decade. I swear come 2025 people will still be blaming Labour.

people had the right to vote for another party at FOUR elections and each time they rejected labour. I think its best to put it that way so that it puts it in the correct perspective. Labour have been rejected. They need to shake it up if they want to ever be elected again. Moaning from the sidelines doesn't achieve anything.

It never takes very long for the losers in any kind of vote to start making up reason why they're still right, even after a crushing defeat. British people kicked out Corbyn and his friends, they made it crystal clear that his kind of politics was not wanted.

Apparently if you voted Conservative, you voted to end the NHS.

If you voted Labour, you're an anti-Semite. Isn't that as fair as the line above?

Just because someone won an election it doesnt make them correct

Yes in 2025 the blair years will still be seen as the most appalling times, and we will still be suffering for those year i am sure

Exactly... he will want to be regarded as a success not a failure.


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The Blair Years ..


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#getbrexitdone

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well it seems that most of england and wales think that the tories have done a great job and have backed them to the hilt for another 5 years

I think they were all scared of what Corbyn brought to the table .. towns that had voted Labour for the last 83 years going all out to vote for Boris .

Nuff said .


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Absolutely.

Boris said he’d invest in the NHS before the election and he was even more determined to drastically improve things AFTER the win .... he could have simply kept quiet !!

Boris has only been in charge a few weeks - it’s not his fault what’s happened in the past .. especially given the number of hospital cases has seemingly trebled over recent years ... classic demand outweighing supply .


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