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Tom4784 06-02-2020 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10772768)
Tell that to the girl that slept with Jagger when she was 15

I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to say here and whether you oppose what I'm saying or not.

bots 06-02-2020 08:52 PM

one of the biggest issues with people in positions of power like he was, behaving as he did, leaves him open to blackmail and coercion. He would have known this, yet still did it. He had to go

user104658 06-02-2020 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10772950)
I would think that he’s been messaging more than just that one lad.....there’s bound to be more comes out about him.

I think you're probably right there, seems unlikely he was only messaging one person.

Beso 06-02-2020 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10773082)
one of the biggest issues with people in positions of power like he was, behaving as he did, leaves him open to blackmail and coercion. He would have known this, yet still did it. He had to go

Only place he has to go is down the stairs in a court room..keep Alex company hopefully.

GoldHeart 07-02-2020 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10773014)
I'm struggling to understand what you're trying to say here and whether you oppose what I'm saying or not.

:facepalm: obviously it's wrong that's the point I'm making. But sometimes these teenagers willingly put themselves in this position, whether it's naivety or trying to act like they're grown up who knows.

The SNP guy was stupid especially in his position of job & why was he talking to a 16 year old in the first place online?? when he has a teenage son, it's weird. But the 16 year old was responding back to him . When I was 16 I doubt I would of replied to a guy who's obviously much older !! .

GoldHeart 07-02-2020 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10772879)
What do you mean it would have to be someone in the snp?

And what are the all sorts the tories are doing...That's a very lazy post you just made, it makes it look like you had a direct agenda to just spinning into the tories..Im sure that's not the case though...lazy as it was.

Are you going to accuse someone else of spinning a direct agenda when they said if it was Trump he would of gotten away with it .

I truly believe if this story was about Trump he'd be let off the hook :bored: .

It's a crucial time for the SNP & Sturgent, and they're now going to be tainted by this grooming scandal .

What's wrong with me calling out the Tories?? They're far from perfect and have racism in their party , yet only Labour was being scapegoated.

Maybe it's others with the agenda aka the media etc and the powerful ones in charge who like to cover the ass of Trump & the Tories :whistle: .

Oliver_W 08-02-2020 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10773314)
:facepalm: obviously it's wrong that's the point I'm making. But sometimes these teenagers willingly put themselves in this position, whether it's naivety or trying to act like they're grown up who knows.

The SNP guy was stupid especially in his position of job & why was he talking to a 16 year old in the first place online?? when he has a teenage son, it's weird. But the 16 year old was responding back to him . When I was 16 I doubt I would of replied to a guy who's obviously much older !! .

The situations aren't really comparable, there's a difference between a groupie seeking to meet a rock star for sex, and someone just happening to have an instagram. Jagger had no way of knowing her age, while the SNP guy knew the kid was 16.

GoldHeart 08-02-2020 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10774412)
The situations aren't really comparable, there's a difference between a groupie seeking to meet a rock star for sex, and someone just happening to have an instagram. Jagger had no way of knowing her age, while the SNP guy knew the kid was 16.

He's also been texting a 25 year old .

16 may seem creepy but it's the age of consent but it seems more creepy as his own son is a teenager, I think 16 is still a kid and still young , but you get 16 year olds sleeping with adults in their 30's & 40's .


And yet the 15 year old groupie was underage , and some people think it's Jagger's fault.

Oliver_W 08-02-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10774420)
He's also been texting a 25 year old .

16 may seem creepy but it's the age of consent but it seems more creepy as his own son is a teenager, I think 16 is still a kid and still young , but you get 16 year olds sleeping with adults in their 30's & 40's .

I really think the age of consent should be raised to 18. I wouldn't even mind if the equalising of the AoC was reverted, and only gays had to be 18 again. I wooonder whhhhhy Peter Tatchell (who goes into schools and says that love has no age) was so keen on getting the gay AoC lowered :think:

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And yet the 15 year old groupie was underage , and some people think it's Jagger's fault.
It was her fault for seeking him out, her parents' fault for not parenting, and Jagger's fault for not asking to see ID.

GoldHeart 08-02-2020 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10774539)
I really think the age of consent should be raised to 18. I wouldn't even mind if the equalising of the AoC was reverted, and only gays had to be 18 again. I wooonder whhhhhy Peter Tatchell (who goes into schools and says that love has no age) was so keen on getting the gay AoC lowered :think:


It was her fault for seeking him out, her parents' fault for not parenting, and Jagger's fault for not asking to see ID.

Well good luck on the age of consent being raised ! , For a long time the age of consent has been 16 and I can't see it budging . I've always found it too young aswell.

This is why people get annoyed as you can have sex at 16 , join the army and get married with parents permission yet you can't drink or vote . Seems like contradiction :facepalm: .

I saw a documentary about a girl marrying a man she knew when she was 11 and when she was 16 she married him and he was allegedly pushing 40 yet looked much older .

Oliver_W 08-02-2020 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10774788)
This is why people get annoyed as you can have sex at 16 , join the army and get married with parents permission yet you can't drink or vote . Seems like contradiction :facepalm: .

Eh, you can't take part in active combat until 18, and you have to be in full time education until you're 18 too, so the only way I see it as a contradiction is the AoC being too low.

Like, obviously if two teenagers are in a relationship and both want to, stuff is gonna happen regardless of the letter of the law, but it should be higher to give them legal protection from predators.

GoldHeart 08-02-2020 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10774821)
Eh, you can't take part in active combat until 18, and you have to be in full time education until you're 18 too, so the only way I see it as a contradiction is the AoC being too low.

Like, obviously if two teenagers are in a relationship and both want to, stuff is gonna happen regardless of the letter of the law, but it should be higher to give them legal protection from predators.

I meant the army territorials , you could join at 16 unless they've now changed that ? . And with parent consent you can get married at 16 .


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