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Cherie 30-04-2020 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834091)
Tbf I dont think many dead beat dads are held in high regard

I don’t think there is any evidence to say he doesn’t support his kids :shrug:

But people will defend the right of men to have umpteen kids and then move on without a second thought

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 30-04-2020 09:44 PM

Influenza B

hijaxers 30-04-2020 10:35 PM

Freddie

bots 01-05-2020 09:58 AM

Donald, to honour his good mate across the pond

Niamh. 01-05-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834093)
I don’t think there is any evidence to say he doesn’t support his kids :shrug:



But people will defend the right of men to have umpteen kids and then move on without a second thought

I never said there was evidence of anything, that's not what I was responding to, I don't know anything about his other kids, didn't even know he had any until a few weeks ago when someone mentioned it here. I was responding to you suggesting that he had multiple kids that he doesn't pay for.

Do you mean people defend celebrities who abandon their kids? Like who?

Cherie 01-05-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834189)
I never said there was evidence of anything, that's not what I was responding to, I don't know anything about his other kids, didn't even know he had any until a few weeks ago when someone mentioned it here. I was responding to you suggesting that he had multiple kids that he doesn't pay for.

Do you mean people defend celebrities who abandon their kids? Like who?

I have never suggested he has multiple kids he doesn't pay for quite the opposite...


and I am not talking about celebs I am talking about the multiple 'normal' men who father kids here there and everywhere but take no responsibility and walk away leaving the woman holding multiple babies she can't afford without state help, I don't see anyone pulling them about their lifestyle or asking how many kids they have, that would be their human right is how it would be judged.

Kizzy 01-05-2020 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834019)
And he had an affair with her while married to his first wife, he is a serial philanderer, I doubt Carrie will be last..

Perfect! Phil it is then.

Niamh. 01-05-2020 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834196)
I have never suggested he has multiple kids he doesn't pay for quite the opposite...


and I am not talking about celebs I am talking about the multiple 'normal' men who father kids here there and everywhere but take no responsibility and walk away leaving the woman holding multiple babies she can't afford without state help, I don't see anyone pulling them about their lifestyle or asking how many kids they have, that would be their human right is how it would be judged.

I thought that's what you were saying when you were asking if we could use that logic to all men who have umpteen kids and don't support them :laugh:

In regards to your second point, who defends assholes who abandon their kids and leave the mother to pick up the slack? Literally never heard anyone defend these people let alone say it's their human right

Kazanne 01-05-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834196)
I have never suggested he has multiple kids he doesn't pay for quite the opposite...


and I am not talking about celebs I am talking about the multiple 'normal' men who father kids here there and everywhere but take no responsibility and walk away leaving the woman holding multiple babies she can't afford without state help, I don't see anyone pulling them about their lifestyle or asking how many kids they have, that would be their human right is how it would be judged.

Spot on Cherie bon bon :wavey: no one knows about his private life ,or the circumstances of and why he got with Carrie,just tabloid feeding fodder again,,the thread was about the name of his baby, but as usual the same childish answers.I am sure this little one will be well looked after, and as you say all those errant fathers who never bother with their kids are ok.:shrug::wavey:

Kizzy 01-05-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834196)
I have never suggested he has multiple kids he doesn't pay for quite the opposite...


and I am not talking about celebs I am talking about the multiple 'normal' men who father kids here there and everywhere but take no responsibility and walk away leaving the woman holding multiple babies she can't afford without state help, I don't see anyone pulling them about their lifestyle or asking how many kids they have, that would be their human right is how it would be judged.

To be fair he's not normal, he doesn't have the traditional reasons for family breakdown to fall back on, poverty, poor education, unemployment, addiction, poor parenting. They usually accompany that happening.

I'm not saying for a second it should be excused in the GP, just that there are those external factors to consider. Especially if your ex has cancer! I didn't know that until yesterday, and he's our PM! In the party of ' family values'? ... pffft!

It's no better that you leave a trail of broken hearts and children just because you have money.

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10834210)
Spot on Cherie bon bon :wavey: no one knows about his private life ,or the circumstances of and why he got with Carrie,just tabloid feeding fodder again,,the thread was about the name of his baby, but as usual the same childish answers.I am sure this little one will be well looked after, and as you say all those errant fathers who never bother with their kids are ok.:shrug::wavey:

It's a bold move to defend someone who cheated on his cancer stricken wife, to make digs at me for mentioning it.

Kazanne 01-05-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10834213)
It's a bold move to defend someone who cheated on his cancer stricken wife, to make digs at me for mentioning it.

I wasn't having a dig at you Slim , but we all have a past we don't know the circumstances of whether or why that happened and to be frank I don't really think its anyones business ,same as people wanting to know how may kids he has, what has that to do with us ? I feel the same about anyone, we all can change and we all have a past. As long as he does his job properly why does it matter to people? IF its true ,he has that to live with ,not us.

caprimint 01-05-2020 11:59 AM

Why... in the hell are people speculating about Boris' private life of which they have no clue about in a children's names thread? :facepalm: Seems like the men are as obsessed with him as all the women are.

It REEKS of jealousy in here! /Wes

Livia 01-05-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10834216)
I wasn't having a dig at you Slim , but we all have a past we don't know the circumstances of whether or why that happened and to be frank I don't really think its anyones business ,same as people wanting to know how may kids he has, what has that to do with us ? I feel the same about anyone, we all can change and we all have a past. As long as he does his job properly why does it matter to people? IF its true ,he has that to live with ,not us.

No one knows the intricacies of his love life, not even Jesus.

How many marriages end in divorce in the UK? Plenty.... I mean, Jeremy Corbyn has been married three times, he got his first divorce in 1979... same year as he had an affair with Diane Abbott. Why has this not been mentioned before? Because no one cares.

Cherie 01-05-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10834211)
To be fair he's not normal, he doesn't have the traditional reasons for family breakdown to fall back on, poverty, poor education, unemployment, addiction, poor parenting. They usually accompany that happening.

I'm not saying for a second it should be excused in the GP, just that there are those external factors to consider. Especially if your ex has cancer! I didn't know that until yesterday, and he's our PM! In the party of ' family values'? ... pffft!

It's no better that you leave a trail of broken hearts and children just because you have money.

She was diagnosed after they separated, are you suggesting people return to their exes if they have a medical issue



Marina Wheeler, the estranged wife of Prime Minister Boris Johnson, has revealed how she was diagnosed with cervical cancer three months ago.

The 54-year-old has thanked her children and sister for their 'wonderful' support as she battled cervical cancer diagnosis.

At the time of her diagnoses, Boris was fighting to become the prime minister while living with 31-year-old girlfriend Carrie Symonds.

Niamh. 01-05-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10834217)
Why... in the hell are people speculating about Boris' private life of which they have no clue about in a children's names thread? :facepalm: Seems like the men are as obsessed with him as all the women are.

It REEKS of jealousy in here! /Wes

Such a weird rationale, jealous of Boris bloody Johnson? Surely if people wanted to be dying of envy about someone they'd set the bar a little bit higher? Brad Pitt maybe, I don't know

Kizzy 01-05-2020 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10834220)
No one knows the intricacies of his love life, not even Jesus.

How many marriages end in divorce in the UK? Plenty.... I mean, Jeremy Corbyn has been married three times, he got his first divorce in 1979... same year as he had an affair with Diane Abbott. Why has this not been mentioned before? Because no one cares.

Who said they did or wanted to. Why are you attempting to politicise the issue, you hate that remember? :/

Yes getting divorced before you start another relationship is beneficial.

Kazanne 01-05-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10834220)
No one knows the intricacies of his love life, not even Jesus.

How many marriages end in divorce in the UK? Plenty.... I mean, Jeremy Corbyn has been married three times, he got his first divorce in 1979... same year as he had an affair with Diane Abbott. Why has this not been mentioned before? Because no one cares.

Its just an excuse to have a pop Livia, so many experts have suddenly come to light,lol, why should England tremble ? and to be honest I think Ide keep quiet about an affair with Diane Abbot :hehe::wavey:

Kazanne 01-05-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834224)
Such a weird rationale, jealous of Boris bloody Johnson? Surely if people wanted to be dying of envy about someone they'd set the bar a little bit higher? Brad Pitt maybe, I don't know

Didn't Brad Pitt cheat on Aniston :shrug: I don't think she means people are jealous of his looks just maybe his popularity off here.

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10834220)
No one knows the intricacies of his love life, not even Jesus.

How many marriages end in divorce in the UK? Plenty.... I mean, Jeremy Corbyn has been married three times, he got his first divorce in 1979... same year as he had an affair with Diane Abbott. Why has this not been mentioned before? Because no one cares.

Yeah, what was really missing from the Corbyn era was scrutiny of his life, his marriages, his children, and even his wife. Dianne Abbott and Corbyn were even discussed on here, possibly brought up by you, but my memory is not clear.

Niamh. 01-05-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10834229)
Didn't Brad Pitt cheat on Aniston :shrug: I don't think she means people are jealous of his looks just maybe his popularity off here.

Yes he did, the cheating arsehole :oh: Oh Chris hemsworth then :flutter:

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10834225)
Who said they did or wanted to. Why are you attempting to politicise the issue, you hate that remember? :/

Yes getting divorced before you start another relationship is beneficial.

Especially if your current wife has cancer. Y'know, just maybe she has enough to be dealing with. I do like the solidarity of women sticking together though. It warms the cockles, so to speak.

Kazanne 01-05-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834233)
Yes he did, the cheating arsehole :oh: Oh Chris hemsworth then :flutter:

:joker::joker:

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834233)
Yes he did, the cheating arsehole :oh: Oh Chris hemsworth then :flutter:

Could have used Simon Baker here Niamh. Missed an opportunity for Patrick propaganda!

Kazanne 01-05-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10834234)
Especially if your current wife has cancer. Y'know, just maybe she has enough to be dealing with. I do like the solidarity of women sticking together though. It warms the cockles, so to speak.

How do you know ? IF that's true , how do you know it's not what she wanted ? we don't know the ins and outs, you are just summising.

Niamh. 01-05-2020 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10834237)
Could have used Simon Baker here Niamh. Missed an opportunity for Patrick propaganda!

:laugh: He's been off my telly for too long now :nono:

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10834238)
How do you know ? IF that's true , how do you know it's not what she wanted ? we don't know the ins and outs, you are just summising.

How do I know that his wife wouldn't want him having an affair behind her back as she deals with cancer?

I'm just trying to clarify that's what you're asking.

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834242)
:laugh: He's been off my telly for too long now :nono:

Good riddance :hmph:

caprimint 01-05-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10834224)
Such a weird rationale, jealous of Boris bloody Johnson? Surely if people wanted to be dying of envy about someone they'd set the bar a little bit higher? Brad Pitt maybe, I don't know

Some people are jealous of intelligence and success, not good looks

Jack_ 01-05-2020 12:42 PM

Imagine if a man living on a council estate - who’d fathered several illegitimate children, had an affair while his wife was receiving cancer treatment, and got a woman 23 years his junior pregnant - was plastered on the front page of the Daily Mail.

People on here and at large would be frothing at the mouth :rolleyes:

I don’t wish him or his family any ill will, but fawning over this like it’s some wonderful, spirit-lifting story is vacuous beyond belief.

Strictly Jake 01-05-2020 12:45 PM

Edward

Kizzy 01-05-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10834223)
She was diagnosed after they separated, are you suggesting people return to their exes if they have a medical issue



Marina Wheeler, the estranged wife of Prime Minister Boris Johnson, has revealed how she was diagnosed with cervical cancer three months ago.

The 54-year-old has thanked her children and sister for their 'wonderful' support as she battled cervical cancer diagnosis.

At the time of her diagnoses, Boris was fighting to become the prime minister while living with 31-year-old girlfriend Carrie Symonds.

Not return no, however having to go through the stress of your husband conducting a very public affair while you are battling cancer, campaigning to be PM with a mistress on his arm? Hmm

Niamh. 01-05-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10834250)
Some people are jealous of intelligence and success, not good looks

I have no doubt he is intelligent but it's not how he comes across, his "schtick" seems to be bumbling idiot so again I could think of better people to envy if jealousy is an actual reason people would dislike him.

Niamh. 01-05-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10834253)
Imagine if a man living on a council estate - who’d fathered several illegitimate children, had an affair while his wife was receiving cancer treatment, and got a woman 23 years his junior pregnant - was plastered on the front page of the Daily Mail.

People on here and at large would be frothing at the mouth
:rolleyes:

I don’t wish him or his family any ill will, but fawning over this like it’s some wonderful, spirit-lifting story is vacuous beyond belief.

Yeah, this is what I was confused by, it was implied that the kind of guy you're talking about here would be made out to be some sort of hero or something when that's so far from the case

The Slim Reaper 01-05-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10834253)
Imagine if a man living on a council estate - who’d fathered several illegitimate children, had an affair while his wife was receiving cancer treatment, and got a woman 23 years his junior pregnant - was plastered on the front page of the Daily Mail.

People on here and at large would be frothing at the mouth :rolleyes:

I don’t wish him or his family any ill will, but fawning over this like it’s some wonderful, spirit-lifting story is vacuous beyond belief.

As Arista would say, bang on right.

Imagine the same posters in this thread discussing a traveller family in the same way.

You're just jealous because you don't have a horse and cart...

Liam- 01-05-2020 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10834253)
Imagine if a man living on a council estate - who’d fathered several illegitimate children, had an affair while his wife was receiving cancer treatment, and got a woman 23 years his junior pregnant - was plastered on the front page of the Daily Mail.

People on here and at large would be frothing at the mouth :rolleyes:

I don’t wish him or his family any ill will, but fawning over this like it’s some wonderful, spirit-lifting story is vacuous beyond belief.

Imagine if Theresa May had her 6th(?) child by a third man while being PM, she’d be called all sorts, I mean, Ulrika ‘4x4’ Jonsson was given hell for having children by different fathers, yet people are holding Boris to a completely different standard, if anything reeks it’s the privilege of the elite men to do whatever they want and be above criticism, it’s sickening

Kizzy 01-05-2020 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10834250)
Some people are jealous of intelligence and success, not good looks

Some just want everyone held to the same standard, his attitude, comments and behaviour are despicable imo.

Kizzy 01-05-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10834253)
Imagine if a man living on a council estate - who’d fathered several illegitimate children, had an affair while his wife was receiving cancer treatment, and got a woman 23 years his junior pregnant - was plastered on the front page of the Daily Mail.

People on here and at large would be frothing at the mouth :rolleyes:

I don’t wish him or his family any ill will, but fawning over this like it’s some wonderful, spirit-lifting story is vacuous beyond belief.

Great point, and it seems the only defining issue between Joe public and boris is money... if you are not reliant on the state you can seemingly do all that and it's fine, if it's not money what is it? The way the media had spun it?
Imagine if the media had treated boris like anyone else, and not airbrushed his wife out and romanticised the affair, would he have made PM?

Crimson Dynamo 01-05-2020 01:03 PM

Boris is very popular with the GBP I had heard nothing but praise for him this week and people are so leased for his fiance and the new baby. It's been a great story in these uncertain times. Stanley will be so proud.

Kizzy 01-05-2020 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10834275)
Boris is very popular with the GBP I had heard nothing but praise for him this week and people are so leased for his fiance and the new baby. It's been a great story in these uncertain times. Stanley will be so proud.

A great story... jackanory had great stories remember that?


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