You're entitled to believe that LGBT people aren't discriminated against in small towns but it's simply not the truth for most LGBT people. Just because you don't see something happening doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Is it fair to say you are more likely to get punched in the face in london for being gay than some random small town...

I think it is.



So to get back to yet more violence against the LGBTQ communities.

Can we start addressing the issues in African ran Africa again and our, as a nation, lack of action.

If anything, small towns are more likely to be homophobic than big cities. you're more likely to find hubs of LGBT communities in cities than in small towns, you're less likely to be isolated but I suppose it also makes it easier to target the people in these communities but then they'll more likely have protections and safety than an individual in a small town would be if they are targeted.

Homophobia exists everywhere but you'd probably be less likely to be harmed for being gay in London then you would be in a small community.

Everyone then? :hee:

Lucky that the colonisers moved on and the colonised still suffer the consequences? Lucky?

Damn those African colonisers :fist:

Yes..that's fine...we all should be condemning it..so far I'm not seeing much to be fair.

Erm... I think you have this backwards. In this analogy, the third world countries are the victims.

No the gay people are who are being victimised.

It's a bit infantilising to act like those nations are incapable of sorting themselves out because they were once colonies :shrug:

I disagree because being homosexual in a small town sort of only gives you straight mates to go with with up town because as you say they dont have the social hubs that big cities can afford its large LGBTQ communities.

So in the small town environment because you are with a group of pals and everyone knows everyone in a small town and the fact that crime is low in small towns, the chances of a random smack in the face for being gay is much much smaller than that of London.

You've never seen condemnation brought on Africa and a lot of the Eastern world?

Come on now, you're old young enough to have seen that loads.

Nobody said they're incapable of anything. Do you watch the news? Did you study history?

It's kind of like asking why certain parts of Africa have no running water and are starving to death. It's ignorant.

Marsh..you ain't making sense again mate.

So they are capable of change despite having been colonies, but choose not to?

Sorry... ahem....

yOU'VE nEVER sEEN tHE eASTERN wORLD cONDEMNED iN yOUR vERY lONG lIFE???

https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Mocking-Spongebob.jpg

Not only choose not to..but making it priority is sickening.

So you haven't studied history. Explains a lot.

But you aren't guaranteed any of that in small towns and homophobia is more than just violence. You can isolate and harm someone without violence and small towns tend to have more closed minded attitudes because of a lack of exposure to the gay scene which is more common in cities.

You can think that discrimination doesn't exist in small towns but the reality is different.

The trolling is actually laughable for two guys who claim racism doesn't exist anymore.

But it's still going on..and getting worse.

You are still wanting me to think about the past...what about now, what about those young men sitting in jail right now battered and bruised.:shrug:

Fair enough, but this thread is about violence towards homosexuals by 34 out of 54 African ran nations.
.which is why I used punch in the face as my judgement.


We are all aware of the way people think in private.

Hi oliver...do you think racism doesn't exist?

I've never said it doesn't exist :shrug:

Me either..


That's that sorted then.

Erm, no. I'm telling you to look to the past when you're chatting sh*t about why the countries are the way they are.

But racism and homophobia isn't a problem anymore so, really, they're all doing great.

Again with the sensationalistic word of the day....racism...



Hellooooo...this is LGBTQ issues.

Aww, colonialism too much for you when discussing issues relating to the former British Empire? Maybe choose a different subject?

I did when I made the op:shrug:

Are people under the impression that African countries that belonged to the British Empire were just left to languish? Do people know how much money we send to Africa every year, and for how many years? It's not an empire now, it's a Commonwealth. And Africa gets the largest share of the aid we send. Corrupt governments who starve their own people should be ousted by the UN... an organisation who sits powerlessly while people die of hunger at the hands of a despot.

No one can change the wrongs that were done before any of us were born, but you can accept that governments across the world have been pouring cash into Africa for years, decades... and they're still murdering children because they think they're witches. They're still having sex with virgins because they think it can cure AIDS. I would argue that despite the huge setback of empire, we're forgetting the amount of damage that has been done since.

But none of that is their fault, remember, they have no agency of their own :rolleyes:

They have the Anglican church.. isn't that enough?

On foreign aid...

'Since 1970, the UN has set a target for donor countries to contribute 0.7% of their GDP on foreign aid.

The UK government has been signed up to the target since 1974, but it only reached it for the first time in 2013.

In 2015, the necessity to hit 0.7% of GDP was enshrined in UK law. While the obligation can’t be enforced through the courts, the international development secretary has to explain themselves to Parliament if the UK doesn’t meet the target.,

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...et-spent%3famp

South Africa, Nigeria are among those African countries who have improved in a lot of things over the years



basically the countries who are probably the worst of the continent are Chad, Sudan, Somalia, in terms of conflicts, corruption, poverty

but yeah 34 out of 54 who don't allow same-sex relationships is still a lot of countries, but you can also say 20 countries do allow same-sex relationships, a more positive look on things, as for the remaining 34 who knows maybe they'll change over the years

And yet our contribution of development aid to the world is the second highest in the world after the USA. Shame on the other countries.... Shame....

That's not true

'The only donors more generous than Britain by proportion of their economies are Sweden (1.01%), Luxembourg (1%), Norway (0.99%) and Denmark (0.72%),”*The Times*reported in 2018. The non-Western countries that exceeded the UN target were the United Arab Emirates and Turkey, it adds'

Of course, some of the aid might be reparation?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-33618621

i thought this was a question taken from family fortunes for a moment

If it was up there, I'd have given you the money meself.

If the british empire endorsed its values upon the African nations they colonised all those years ago, and those African nations are not able to change once they are governing themselves and making their own laws!

That also means that britain and its population cant change either, so that would make everyone homophobic racists!


But we have changed ad a nation for the better.....



So my question is...why do people think Africans are unable to change for the better like britain has once it gave up its colonies back to their original and rightfull owners?

Because all I'm seeing is the lgbtq community afraid to go in as hard on these African nations as they do on
random tibb members on here fgs..

Can anyone tell me why? Cause I dont understand or get it at all!

My question is... why you think posturing progressiveness to other nations means our nation is any better? Quiet racism and homophobia is more insidious.

It may he more insidious but atm in africa, it would hopefully make it a little less sore for the 34 nations lgbtq communities if a muscle or 2 was flexed..but you keep on twisting it back yeah to ignore your inner feelings.

My inner feelings on what? :joker:

Am I to blame for Africa's stance on same sex relationships now? Oh dear.

My point was pointing at other places for their barbaric treatment of minorities whilst simultaneously ignoring our own is... interesting at best.