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Ammi 30-09-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10924543)
I really don't believe in any of this stuff but I did go to a psychic years ago and one thing she said to me was so specific, down to actual names, I still can't figure it out. She got a lot wrong as well but this one thing she got right was really bizarre and pretty creepy tbh

...this is what I mean...it was so creepy that I never went to one again but I’m always interested in the experiences of others because I can’t be sceptical either...(...not of all, anyway...)...mine didn’t get anything wrong because she didn’t give anything general, everything was specific and everything either was or became correct and as she said...and she asked me nothing at all...all she asked me was to shuffle some cards...just playing cards, not Tarot...

Ammi 30-09-2020 10:22 AM

...open mind, really...enough to make me never want to see a clairvoyant again...

joeysteele 30-09-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10924538)
My sister went to one recently and she was given a recording of it and honestly, the things the woman came out with, you wouldn’t be able to just pull from thin air, all she had was her first name and it was amazing, every now and then you get one that just blows you away and yes, it’s not exactly life changing, but at least it’s extremely comforting

I've never been to a psychic or clarvoyant. Liam.

Your accounts are really fascinating.
As I said my mind was opened to things in my late teens.
I wouldn't choose to even as I entered my teens mock others experiences.

Sometimes I think those who dismiss it and all others experiences, possibly have a fear of it actually being real.

Anyone having experiences of what even science and scientists cannot explain.

Chemicals in the brain as someone's dying, well not all have that happen anyway
Then in comes to the madness element of schizophrenia or other mental disorders being cited as reasoning by sceptics.

With not a hint of any mental imbalance whatsoever of those who have had experiences.

I think this a fascinating subject.
Even moreso since I opened up my own mind more and listened to others.
After the odd and unexplained things I've come across personally.

Thank you for sharing your feelings and touching on your experiences.
Full respect to you from myself.

Zizu 30-09-2020 10:28 AM

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Josy 30-09-2020 03:59 PM

I believe in residual energies

Marsh. 30-09-2020 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10924499)
Na ... there is absolutely not one thread of evidence supporting the theory that ghosts / UFOs/ aliens / telekinesis/ levitation etc etc exists ..


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Well I suppose it depends on your definition of "alien" but "no evidence"?

Zizu 30-09-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10924898)
Well I suppose it depends on your definition of "alien" but "no evidence"?



Oh come on there hasn’t been one even half decent photo or video of a ghost or UFO or whatever ... even though just about every human walking the planet now have a quality camera on their person .

There’s a fund of ONE MILLION DOLLARS available in the USA ( it’s been on offer for 25 years ) .. for anyone who can prove - in scientific conditions - the existence of anything paranormal, ghostly , UFOs , levitation, mind reading , telekinesis etc

It’s never had to pay out a single penny / cent .

Google James Randi




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Marsh. 30-09-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10924911)
Oh come on there hasn’t been one even half decent photo or video of a ghost or UFO or whatever ... even though just about every human walking the planet now have a quality camera on their person .

There’s a fund of ONE MILLION DOLLARS available in the USA ( it’s been on offer for 25 years ) .. for anyone who can prove - in scientific conditions - the existence of anything paranormal, ghostly , UFOs , levitation, mind reading , telekinesis etc

It’s never had to pay out a single penny / cent .

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I said "alien" as in life on other planets.

Not really in the same realm as telekinesis and ghosts.

LaLaLand 30-09-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10924879)
I believe in residual energies

This really.

I’ve had a couple of “spooky experiences” (one more comforting than spooky actually, made me cry) But I wouldn’t say I believe in “ghosts” exactly, just that energy can sort of stay around a place.

I once had an EXTREMELY accurate and spooky reading from a medium once though. Was scary - names, descriptions, jobs, family nicknames that nobody else would know etc.

Zizu 30-09-2020 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10924936)
This really.



I’ve had a couple of “spooky experiences” (one more comforting than spooky actually, made me cry) But I wouldn’t say I believe in “ghosts” exactly, just that energy can sort of stay around a place.



I once had an EXTREMELY accurate and spooky reading from a medium once though. Was scary - names, descriptions, jobs, family nicknames that nobody else would know etc.



Google ‘ cold reading’


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Ninastar 30-09-2020 07:39 PM

I do, but only certain things. Had stuff happen to me. Not fun and I think I’m a little scarred from it honestly. Can’t watch anything paranormal/ghost related

LaLaLand 30-09-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10924959)
Google ‘ cold reading’


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None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around. :skull:

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.

Zizu 30-09-2020 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10925011)
None of that could have been obtained from me on the day. I didn’t give anything away, didn’t speak/nod/smile anything.

As soon as I sat down he blurted out my family nickname (that nobody else knows, it’s pretty niche) and said my Gran [name here] had said it as I sat down.

He knew dates, causes of deaths, really unique events that had happened AND commented on things that had been discussed just days before regarding my family (plans).

He even commented on the fact that my house had a murder happen in it years ago that I didn’t know about until I asked around. :skull:

Insane. I left the room and just bawled it was crazy.



Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??


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rusticgal 30-09-2020 08:36 PM

Yes I do. A few unusual things have happened since my mum passed away. My brother also experienced paranormal things in an old house he bought many years ago...and he was a massive disbeliever. My friend also experienced such things in her old house.

Zizu 01-10-2020 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10925021)
Yes I do. A few unusual things have happened since my mum passed away. My brother also experienced paranormal things in an old house he bought many years ago...and he was a massive disbeliever. My friend also experienced such things in her old house.



Old buildings are always ‘noisy’ though , for a number of reasons .


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LaLaLand 01-10-2020 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10925016)
Did you just walk in off the street or did you book an appointment in advance ??


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Walk-in, completely out of the blue. He didn't know me or anything about me.

LaLaLand 01-10-2020 12:23 AM

A really comforting "experience" I had I remember so vividly was when I was about 12 years old.

I was lying on the sofa one night watching wrestling on Sky and my lovely dog that I'd had my whole life and grew up with had passed away a few days before at the grand old age of 14. My sister was upstairs in her room and my parents were out somewhere, think at a relatives, so there was only me downstairs at home.

Anyway, my dog used to sleep in front of the back door in the kitchen on his bed and when he was dreaming and did that galloping thing dogs do his claws would bang and scratch on the metal bin in the kitchen next to him, and made a really loud, distinct sound.

Anyway, I was lying there and "the noise" happened...

Didn't scare me at all it was comforting in a way if anything to hear it, was as if he was just popping in to say he's alright or something, like a nice "goodbye". Remember giggling after it happened. Bless him. :love:

Zizu 01-10-2020 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10925053)
Walk-in, completely out of the blue. He didn't know me or anything about me.



Mmmm. Has to be ‘old school’ cold reading techniques then as they wouldn’t have been able to check on you online (Facebook , Instagram , Twitter etc )

If these con artists could speak with the dead and predict the future - they’d all be billionaires so I don’t really think they’d be working in shoddy little rooms charging some poor sod £25 for a reading ..


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rusticgal 01-10-2020 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10925052)
Old buildings are always ‘noisy’ though , for a number of reasons .


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No my brother actually saw a figure in the room of the old lady who lived and died there.

user104658 01-10-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10925261)
If these con artists could speak with the dead and predict the future - they’d all be billionaires so I don’t really think they’d be working in shoddy little rooms charging some poor sod £25 for a reading ..

Well that's the thing isn't it Zizu... if it was real these people with this "rare gift" would be worth millions and would be working on the payroll of governments and large companies... none of them are... they're in carnival tents and - if they're especially good at it - maybe booking out lecture halls etc... the only sensible conclusion is that it isn't real.

There's also the spanner-in-the-works of there being several high-profile people who are very skilled at it - more skilled than your average Mystic Meg in a hut outside Tesco - who do these reading techniques on people and amaze them whilst freely admitting that it is NOT in any way supernatural.

Niamh. 01-10-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10925279)
Well that's the thing isn't it Zizu... if it was real these people with this "rare gift" would be worth millions and would be working on the payroll of governments and large companies... none of them are... they're in carnival tents and - if they're especially good at it - maybe booking out lecture halls etc... the only sensible conclusion is that it isn't real.

There's also the spanner-in-the-works of there being several high-profile people who are very skilled at it - more skilled than your average Mystic Meg in a hut outside Tesco - who do these reading techniques on people and amaze them whilst freely admitting that it is NOT in any way supernatural.

maybe they are and we just don't know :hee:

user104658 01-10-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10925280)
maybe they are and we just don't know :hee:

I mean if there are psychics in the government they're not doing a very good job :joker:

bots 01-10-2020 12:20 PM

your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.

joeysteele 01-10-2020 12:23 PM

Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.

rusticgal 01-10-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10925294)
your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.


My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....:smug:

bots 01-10-2020 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10925347)
My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....:smug:

and he could hear the wind blowing and an old door creaking in the background :laugh:

i'm pretty open minded on it all actually, it would be really good fun if it were true, I like the idea of haunting some poor beggar in 300 years time

Zizu 01-10-2020 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10925294)
your mind can play some very realistic tricks on you to the point you do believe 100% that you have seen or heard something.



Exactly


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Zizu 01-10-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10925295)
Psychics, clairvoyants etc; are aside though from the actual personal experiences people have had or felt.

There's a fair few personal instances, included in this thread which asked do you believe in ghosts ghost experiences/ spooky stories etc:

A fortune teller, clairvoyant,spiritualist, that's trying to seek out a possible evidence of something.

The personal, spiritual, supernatural and unexplained in other ways experiences are from individuals with connections to none such as psychics.

Just endlessly dismissing something that someone rational and not seeking anything from others like psychics.
Is sad.

Dismissing the experiences of others, of which some have been shared on this thread.
That may be easy to do.
It doesn't alter the fact those experiences have happened and been witnessed by the person/s who have experienced them.

Just because nothing has happened to others, doesn't mean it hasn't happened to others too.
Hence the accounts on here.

It's why I opened my mind to this issue.
It's why I'm glad I did too.
I actually thank those who have shared their stories and accounts of things that they know have happened in their presence.



You make some fair points ...

Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention


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user104658 01-10-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10925380)
Apologies if I’ve offended anyone .. certainly not my intention

For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

joeysteele 01-10-2020 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10925391)
For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.

Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

Zizu 01-10-2020 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10925391)
For my part, I'd like to say that I also have no intention of offending anyone. But also that I don't really care either, psychics/mediums are still at best entertainers and at worst con artists, and that ghosts are not real and anyone who thinks they've had an experience with one is wrong. Unexplainable experiences? Sure, but that just means you don't know what the solution is, it doesn't mean spooks.



Totally agree ..


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Crimson Dynamo 01-10-2020 03:04 PM

It boils down to

do you think you are right and the entire laws of science as we know them are wrong?

or perhaps you may have been mistaken?

joeysteele 01-10-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10925347)
My brother didnt even know this woman...but it freaked him out so much his wife contacted the womans son who sold the house to them and she fitted the description right down to what she was wearing....:smug:


That's an incredible account.
I'd like to see science, explain that.

A house your Brother had never lived in.
Didn't know the lady.
Could describe her perfectly.

Only confirmed by a relative.
No wonder he was freaked out when it occurred.

Zizu 02-10-2020 07:15 PM

Relax ... they’re clouds..

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Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10926667)
Relax ... they’re clouds..

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:laugh2:

user104658 02-10-2020 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10925414)
Those who claim to have come across ghosts, spirits whatever anyone wants to call them.

Are wrong to you maybe, however it doesn't make THEM wrong just because of that.

To you an unexplained experience doesn't mean a spirit or other supernatural being.
I think those who have said they HAVE however, have another meaning to what they themselves have witnessed.

If ghosts aren't real, they aren't real... they're not real for some people and not for others; that's just called imagination.

Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 08:17 PM

I'm amazed with phones we have no video evidence

Oh wait

I'm not

joeysteele 02-10-2020 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10926723)
If ghosts aren't real, they aren't real... they're not real for some people and not for others; that's just called imagination.

I disagree.
I don't think it's just as black and white as that.

I don't and wouldn't discount the rational accounts of others as simply to just easily to put down as imagination.
No way would I.

rusticgal 02-10-2020 10:50 PM

Most of the time things happen that are a great comfort to people that have lost someone dear. I lost my mum in February and a couple of weeks after her funeral I went to bed thinking of her...I wished for her to give me a sign that she was with me. I waited and then eventually closed my eyes then heard the light go on in our ensuite bathroom. It's a sensor light...maybe something triggered it like a moth etc but in the 6 years we have had it it had never happened before Coincidence?...probably...but it was kind of reassuring and comforting. Two weeks later I woke up to find an extremely heavy mirror in my bedroom had been lifted off its mount and was resting against the wall propped up on the linen basket below....it spooked us all out completely. How do you explain that if both my sons and husband swore they had not touched it??

Ammi 03-10-2020 06:19 AM

...as you say, Rusti...the sensor light..?..could have been something of the coincidence of you having been observant to the ‘sign’...so, like the sensor light your attachment/association etc also being triggered by something of the unfamiliar...?..we encounter the unfamiliar as a very frequent thing in our lives, I feel...but that unfamiliar often and mostly goes unnoticed because we have no personal attachments of thought to it...?... we were not looking and thinking of ‘signs’ so the less familiar or unfamiliar just slips on by us.../...is what I feel anyway...but as I say, we attach our own meanings and that’s how it should be because where do personal ‘life meanings’ ever have a place if that wasn’t how it was and it was all done and dusted and placed in a box...

...the mirror, though...?...if there was no sign of the mount having been broken or bent or anything and everything was in place as always with the mount And it had held for a very long time../...then yeah, a bit spooky... maybe one of those very small earthquake/freak of nature, type things...that didn’t blow your house down but was enough to blow the mirror down with everything else staying in place etc...?...mirror, mirror on the wall...who is the freakiest of them all...well mirror in my bedroom, you are.../freaky mirror...


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