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Colin
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Very powerful and really sad. |
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I'm not saying it's not a hell of a lot better in the UK than in many other countries, the vast majority of places you would ever actually WANT to go are safe, but it's certainly not 100% "fine to be gay in the UK" quite yet. Also you said "the West" not just the UK and there are huge parts of the US that are still heavily blinkered hardcore Christian and being openly gay would not be the most comfortable life. |
The whole thing was pretty grim, well made though.
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Yeah her son had just died but she didn’t even really know him (not that she was to blame for that though) Jill was his proper family and his maw had prevented them from being together when he passed away which was done out of nowt but spite so yeah so totally did deserve it I’d have thrown in a slap for good measure meself |
So powerful, one of the best dramas I’ve ever seen. Episode 3 and 5 are unbelievably sad, I could not stop crying :sad:
Keeley Hawes was sensational in the final episode, I LOATHED Ritchie’s mum but she played her unbelievably. |
...Richie’s mum...
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I haven’t stopped thinking about this since I finished it. Just haunting from start to finish :sad:
The poor gays of the 1980s :sad: it just makes me feel so lucky to be born in a different time, but so angry too at the hardships they had to face. The scary thing it is it was only relatively recent too :( |
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That aside... as she walks away the mum is all of a sudden apologetic and saying "I'm sorry... I didn't know..." which is so far from the realms of realism for how ANYONE would be reacting in that situation that it jumps the shark completely. Let alone a character who has been portrayed as being blinkered and bigoted up until this point... was Jill's speech so poignant that it would somehow reach a freshly-grieving mother and change her entire worldview? No... it's not realistic human psychology... she would be angry, broken and incredulous and tell Jill to go **** herself. Would that be fair or reasonable? No. SHOULD she be sorry for her attitudes and what they have lead to? Absolutely. But realistically, would she be, right there and then having only just heard it? Nope... no chance. Again to be realistic, she would have completely rejected the idea that it was her fault in that moment, and if you want a scene of her having absorbed it and accepted blame, it would come months later after sitting with it and hours of introspection. Even having her angry as Jill walked off, and then one little extra scene of Jill receiving an "I'm sorry, you were right" letter a while later, would have improved the writing there. I know it's supposed to be a powerful scene but in terms of characterisation, it's not well written, which is a shame because the rest of the writing is brilliant. |
I can’t bring myself to watch this, too many painful memories.
But I am so pleased this series has been aired. |
Episode 3 just completly broke me.
This needs to be up for every single award in the 2022 season. If it doesn't win a BAFTA or Emmy I will be furious. |
Episode 3 broke me. Genuinely the most upsetting piece of television I’ve watched in a long time.
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I'd already watched this in full a couple of weeks ago but I know Episode 3 aired tonight and it's the hardest out of them all. Completely unexpected as well, which made it worse.
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Really heavy going tonight.
Excellently acted out however. Very strong series. |
Honestly can’t get over that episode :(
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La! :love:
I want that to become a thing in my life |
This was great but (understandably) miserable
Pissing in Thatcher’s tea was quality content though <3 |
It dont even have a decent soundtrack.
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ok if that's all you're taking from the show that's thought provoking, captivating, heart warming and heart breaking all at the same time x
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No provocation from me, I'm still watching it atm even though there are no songs from the 80s interludes.
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Just binged the first three episodes and... well... I've been needing a good cry all week so that was a hell of a smack of catharsis.
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....Jill’s mum was such a wonderful lady as well...she was played by the ‘real life’ Jill as well, which is pretty lovely...:lovedup:.. ...yeah, you would have needed that cry..:hug:..I often find that I’m drawn to sad things when I’m feeling low because they do give release as well... |
I always did wonder what happened to years and years
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This was really a powerful and heartbreaking series.
Superbly acted. One of the best things on TV for ages. Just so sad. |
Oh also why is Ritchie Tozer like the perfect gay :flutter:
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Well I’ve just done all 5 episodes the last couple of days. It broke me tbh
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I binged the whole lot in a night when it dropped on All 4 which probably wasn't the wisest move psychologically, but my God, what a series. Broke me. Amazing. Russel T Davies is a genius.
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Finished the other two episodes
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she was fantastic in Finding Alice as the grieving widow In Honour playing the real life Sergeant who brought the family to justice The Home Secretary in the Bodyguard Line of Duty I could go on, so no violence for a wonderful actress :nono: unlike Jimmy Nesbitt who seems to play the same character in everything he is in |
Yeah she looks great in that upcoming film about Roald Dahl with whatshisname from Downton Abbey, too. Plus there was Ashes to Ashes, of course.
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...that you want to smack Keeley in the face, Shaun...shows what a terrific actress she is and how excellently she portrayed Richie’s mum...it really is an award winning performance...:lovedup:...Keeley is such the lady of the moment in terms of the roles she’s getting and how in demand she is...she’s always been a favourite for me...so it’s lovely to see her get the recognition she deserves...:love:...
...I started to read up on Jill Nalder while I was watching it also...and yeah, what an amazing and inspirational lady and at a time when so many needed that caring and support in the LGBT community...:love:... |
I was planning to watch this but I got the last episode spoiled on Goggle Box
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