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rusticgal 15-01-2021 11:47 PM
Without a doubt....

Ramsay 16-01-2021 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985662)
Probably not. Unless I'm pinned down and forced it or if I really need to take it for some emergency.

I can survive without travelling to other countries, I've survived for 43 years so far on that front. A few more won't make a difference.
What's your reason for not taking it when available?

Alf 16-01-2021 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985673)
What's your reason for not taking it when available?
I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.

GoldHeart 16-01-2021 12:32 AM
Well until i hear evidence and proof that it has terrible effects , i'm going to trust it .

Ramsay 16-01-2021 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985675)
I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.
Why don't you trust it? Were you vaccinated for other things?

Alf 16-01-2021 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985684)
Why don't you trust it? Were you vaccinated for other things?
I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Just be thankful for volunteers like me, letting you go first.

Ramsay 16-01-2021 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985688)
I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I don't yet, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Be thankful for volunteers like me letting you go first.
That's fair, watch how everyone else is! But you have a much higher percentage of dying from covid than getting side effects from the vaccine.

Novo 16-01-2021 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985675)
I couldn't really give you a good reason, maybe lack of my trust, or maybe it could be paranoia? All I know is, I don't fancy sticking things into me without my full commitment to it. I got nothing against anybody who has it, I'm just not that bothered and that's about it. Who knows, maybe next week I'll think differently.
Djokovic has been the most complete athlete on the planet for over a decade and he swears against having things put into his body, got to go with stance haven't you Alf? we will get a bunker somewhere like 10 cloverfield lane and come out when the lethal side effects have finished the UK off

Ammi 16-01-2021 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10985604)
Vaccines tend to not have any long term effects past a few weeks anyway especially mRNA vaccines which once exposed have a really short half life. They don't stay in your body for long at all.
If you're getting the pfizer or mordena vaccine it's the mRNA vaccine you're not getting injected with the bad part of the virus like before to have your body develop immunity. Here's a couple links bleow that goes through how mRNA vaccines work.
This is an absolute revelation in the vaccine world and I can't wait to see what can come from this. I hate to bring up real life experience into it because anyone can lie on the internet but trust me I'm in my final year of Chemical and Pharmaceutical Science we have studied vaccines in detail. People here have me on FB so they can go look at my page if it needs confirmation :laugh:
It's completely understable to be wary because it may seem rushed also incase you are but really regular vaccines take so much longer to develop as a cost effective measure. It's cheaper to spread out the trials over 10 or so years. Covid tho is such a widespread problem that they're happy to throw the cash at it while having simultaneous trials going on plus most of the work was already done from SARS back in the early 2000s they just had to pick up from that. 60k+ or so people have taken it for the trials plus the millions that have already taken it in the general public, you are probably a normal healthy regular member of the population so you can sit back and see the effects of the rest of the population before it's your turn if you choose to take it.
When side effects of these vaccines which may come up which may be bad because no matter what you'll come across people who take a bad reaction to a foreign substance going into your body, it will be such a small case, a way small percentage than the number than actually die from covid.
No one wants to mess this up and be known as the company that ****ed up so they're all really careful with it. Sorry for the essay haha Im not a fully fledged doctor or scientist but Any more questions let me know if you want on here or PM, same goes for anyone here :)

https://www.cas.org/blog/covid-mrna-vaccine
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconv...rs-safe-150249

...Karl...:love:...wonderful/reassuring post...I know someone who is a vaccinologist and who has worked on the Oxford vaccine and he’s always pretty much said the same as you...in that the vaccines go have gone through so many tests and would not be given unless completely safe, but obviously there will never be ‘100%’ in anything, there would always be a small percentage whose body’s reacted...anyway, yeah I’ll for sure have it because for me, the restricted connections atm are largely what form the meaning of life...

...anyways, good luck with your future, it’s a hugely interesting thing you’ve chosen...:love:..

Kizzy 16-01-2021 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10985566)
When you think of the stuff we put in our bodies via alcohol and junk food, will take my chances with this
Ive had this with so many people, recently.
I say, have you ever had a mystery meat kebab? Dropped an E? Vaped/ smoked?

There's not one person who hasn't at some point put a substance in their body that they weren't sure how they would react to.
None of those who have said they would refuse were the 'my body is a temple' types either, far far from it

caprimint 16-01-2021 06:13 AM
No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health conditions.

Kizzy 16-01-2021 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10985736)
No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health problems.
But you can catch it and pass it to the immunosuppressed that can't have the vaccine.

And there is nothing to say that a healthy person can't be seriously affected by this albeit rare, or end up with 'long covid' that affects all age groups.

caprimint 16-01-2021 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10985739)
But you can catch it and pass it to the immunosuppressed that can't have the vaccine.

And there is nothing to say that a healthy person can't be seriously affected by this albeit rare, or end up with 'long covid' that affects all age groups.
Well the virus itself will begin to fade out eventually anyway when the majority of people have been vaccinated and others are not affected by it, so that's probably a minor/non-issue.

Of course it can happen but I'm not personally bothered or worried about it.

Kizzy 16-01-2021 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10985741)
Well the virus itself will begin to fade out eventually anyway when the majority of people have been vaccinated and others are not affected by it, so that's probably a minor/non-issue.

Of course it can happen but I'm not personally bothered or worried about it.
Sounds a tad blasé. ..but it's honest

Nicky91 16-01-2021 07:13 AM
not sure yet (but i still have the time, since i am probably among last to be vaccinated anyway)

hijaxers 16-01-2021 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10985741)
Well the virus itself will begin to fade out eventually anyway when the majority of people have been vaccinated and others are not affected by it, so that's probably a minor/non-issue.

Of course it can happen but I'm not personally bothered or worried about it.
I hope you plan on holidaying in UK because i think you'll have difficulty overseas with no reason for not being vaccinated.

I can't wait to get mine asap please.

Cherie 16-01-2021 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10985753)
I hope you plan on holidaying in UK because i think you'll have difficulty overseas with no reason for not being vaccinated.

I can't wait to get mine asap please.
Yes good point, even if you don’t think you will suffer with the virus or pass it on, if you plan to travel that will entail covid testing 72 hours before you go and return for some time into the future

caprimint 16-01-2021 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10985753)
I hope you plan on holidaying in UK because i think you'll have difficulty overseas with no reason for not being vaccinated.

I can't wait to get mine asap please.
I won't be going abroad for some years+ so yeah I'm not bothered at all.

Cherie 16-01-2021 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985688)
I'm just happy to volunteer to go to the back of the queue. And when it comes to my turn, maybe I'll take it, I'll deal with that issue when it comes to it. Just be thankful for volunteers like me, letting you go first.
I am thankful to the true volunteers who put themselves forward for trials :tongue:

Novo 16-01-2021 08:00 AM
you are a brave and Honorable man Alf and i'll clap for you and rattle the pans and pots on Thursday Evening, keep up the efforts

Vicky. 16-01-2021 12:52 PM
I would get the oxford one. The pfizer one..seems pointless as it appears to not even stop infection/spreading?

I also figure natural immunity will sort me til I am offered, if I ever get offered, given I had it already (and it WAS luckily just like flu, for 2 day then fine, though have 'long covid' apparently as still coughing sometimes..most of the house tested positive and showed not even a cough, thats not me saying covid IS flu though)

Am likely last on the list for the vaccine anyway, I figure they will decide soon it will only be the vulnerable who get it, like the flu one. Also I think it might turn into an annual thing, that just goes along with the flu vaccine. Assuming covid acts like other coronaviruses, which theres not much reason to believe it won't..

GoldHeart 16-01-2021 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10985736)
No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health conditions.
:facepalm: That's what we thought at the beginning , but you can still easily pass it on.

And fit healthy people have still been really poorly with Covid .

Daniel. 16-01-2021 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10985736)
No because... there's no point. Majority of people that covid affects are either old, obese or those with underlying health conditions.
You can still get severe effects any age.

Alf 16-01-2021 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10985735)
Ive had this with so many people, recently.
I say, have you ever had a mystery meat kebab? Dropped an E? Vaped/ smoked?

There's not one person who hasn't at some point put a substance in their body that they weren't sure how they would react to.
None of those who have said they would refuse were the 'my body is a temple' types either, far far from it
You're right. All of Harold Shipman's victims trusted a doctor to inject things into their body.

Alf 16-01-2021 04:36 PM
Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?

Smithy 16-01-2021 04:40 PM
I’m due to have it soon, not sure on the date yet though

Liam- 16-01-2021 04:41 PM
Of course

Jessica. 16-01-2021 10:40 PM
Without a shadow of a doubt.

Lee. 17-01-2021 12:21 AM
Yes, I’ll definitely have it when offered.

Lee. 17-01-2021 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985977)
Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?
Yes, my cousin has had it, and one of my best pals.

caprimint 17-01-2021 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel. (Post 10985913)
You can still get severe effects any age.
Why you not sure about having it then? :think:

Kizzy 17-01-2021 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985940)
You're right. All of Harold Shipman's victims trusted a doctor to inject things into their body.
It wasn't the substance that killed them...it was the psychopath injecting them.

How you have linked a vaccine to a mass murderer I don't know. Unless you're saying don't trust doctors because one killed some people once?

Kizzy 17-01-2021 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985977)
Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?
A colleague of mine had it with mild symptoms but his mum caught it and was on a ventilator. A neighbour had it and he was fine but his daughter was very poorly.

Cherie 17-01-2021 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985977)
Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?
Vaccine or covid?

4 people with the vaccine 3 over 80s and one support staff in a special school

Covid, no one in the first wave, loads of people this time round

Niamh. 17-01-2021 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10985977)
Has anyone on TiBB had it yet? Or have a close family member who has had it?
Not the vaccine but my brother, his wife and their 3 kids have had Covid

AnnieK 17-01-2021 09:13 AM
I know a couple of people who have had the vaccine.

Like Cherie, I didn't know anyone who had it in the first wave last year but lots who have had it this time. Mainly fairly mild but one if the Dads at my sons school (39 and no underlying conditions) ended up in intensive care and they gave him a 30% chance of survival. He did beat it but has been left with long covid. I also know of a couple of deaths of friends of friends.

MTVN 17-01-2021 09:27 AM
My Gran had her first jab a couple of weeks ago and my Auntie had hers yesterday because she's a care worker

Good to see a lot of the initial sceptism has faded away a bit and the uptake seems very good now

Daniel. 04-02-2021 08:30 PM
I have mine booked next week, ****ting it

hijaxers 04-02-2021 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel. (Post 10995050)
I have mine booked next week, ****ting it

Why ??

user104658 04-02-2021 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 10995051)
Why ??
5G innit


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