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DouglasS 14-05-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046185)
I never said I had a problem with the content of the documentary...
IMO they would have had more of an impact on these issues had they raised them 2/3 years ago at the height of their fame......but the money they were making was obviously more important than their mental health at the time.
I hate racism and I hate bullying and I empathise with what they had to endure..both her and Jesy but why wait until now to bring it to light. People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world but don’t have the platform they do and don’t have their wealth as some sort of comfort...because it is a comfort.

Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales

Mitchell 14-05-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046192)
Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales

Jesy’s documentary was in 2019 (after Leigh-Anne did a major interview about the racism she has faced in the music industry), before Covid, and Little Mix have literally had a number one album and single in the last year, they’re just as big now as they have ever been, maybe she actually wants to speak out on an issue that needs to be spoken about?

And if this thread tells me anything, it’s the trolling documentary done by Jesy and the racism one done by Leigh-Anne are very much still needed.

rusticgal 14-05-2021 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046192)
Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales


Yup...I get it.

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046192)
Because their albums are not selling as much rusti is the answer. They’re not earning as much cash, before documentaries were of no interest because they were making much more money through tours and album sales, now it’s dried up with covid and lack of sales

Oh really ? is that why they won best British Group at the BRIT AWARDS ,i think they're doing just fine. And this is an important topic to be addressed when it comes to mistreatment and racism.

Marsh. 15-05-2021 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046185)
I never said I had a problem with the content of the documentary...
IMO they would have had more of an impact on these issues had they raised them 2/3 years ago at the height of their fame......but the money they were making was obviously more important than their mental health at the time.
I hate racism and I hate bullying and I empathise with what they had to endure..both her and Jesy but why wait until now to bring it to light. People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world but don’t have the platform they do and don’t have their wealth as some sort of comfort...because it is a comfort.

The old "why now?" bullsh*t when commenting on something you haven't even watched and so are embarrassing yourself coming out with comments that have no relation to it.
"People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world" so Leigh-Anne is being criticised for trying to do her bit by making changes in the industry she can actually make a difference in, the record label she can have influence in, why exactly?

Don't bother doing anything guys, unless you can change the whole world yourself, overnight, don't bother.

As for 3 years ago being the "height of their fame", I'm not sure what measuring stick you're using but they made history at the Brits less than a week ago.

Ammi 15-05-2021 06:26 AM

…I haven’t watched all of this yet but I started to watch it last night and I thought Leigh-Anne conveyed her experiences so well…

…’One thinks shes the victim of the group because she’s too black…’….that comment really doesn’t apply at all and to watch the documentary would contradict that completely…I mean, I just don’t understand how that could ever be concluded from anyone in watching…

….Leigh-Anne was very open in that she felt almost apologetic about her own experiences in comparison to some and what their life experiences have been…and that’s something that’s often noticeable as well in society…’I’m against racism but I only recognise racism if it’s the more extreme actions/words, then I’m appalled’’ etc is something that is seen a lot, I feel…

…anyways, the only time that she stated that she’d experienced the more extreme words levelled against her was a Primary School experience when she said that she’d had a description from someone of ‘coming straight from the jungle’…I’ve personally known words such as and similar to that laid at children and the impact on them that’s carried ….Leigh-Anne stated that she herself felt that her experiences were just minuscule compared to others and as I say, her whole vibe was more apologetic to those who experience horrendous prejudice…but she also stated that she undoubtedly did feel that there were ‘differences’ with things toward her and other black girls in the industry ….I recall having many conversations with CeeCee/IthinkIloveyoutoo, the member….she often spoke about skin colour in particular with females because of her own experiences ….and she also said so, so many of those same things that were being said by those ladies in the documentary…that there is a ‘conditioning’ of ‘black isn’t beautiful’ and those are the experiences it seems that many have and that were being explained …I’ll finish watching it later as it’s a really worthwhile watch….

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 09:35 AM

Confetti was the 29th best selling album in the UK and was released in November so only had 2 months of sales and their tour had sold out most venues before being cancelled due to covid, people saying they aren't earning are morons. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

rusticgal 15-05-2021 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046275)
Confetti was the 29th best selling album in the UK and was released in November so only had 2 months of sales and their tour had sold out most venues before being cancelled due to covid, people saying they aren't earning are morons. Stop embarrassing yourselves.


They are on their way out....they have peaked and are on the slippery slope. It happens to all bands and you are a moron if you cant see it.

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046300)
They are on their way out....they have peaked and are on the slippery slope. It happens to all bands and you are a moron if you cant see it.

They've literally just won Best British Group at The Brits and made history in being the only girl group to do so. Even if they did decide to call it a day for some reason what a legacy.

Oh but some bloke off a big brother forum says they are past their best so it must be true. :laugh2:

Marsh. 15-05-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046304)
They've literally just won Best British Group at The Brits and made history in being the only girl group to do so. Even if they did decide to call it a day for some reason what a legacy.

Oh but some bloke off a big brother forum says they are past their best so it must be true. :laugh2:

:joker:

rusticgal 15-05-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046304)
They've literally just won Best British Group at The Brits and made history in being the only girl group to do so. Even if they did decide to call it a day for some reason what a legacy.

Oh but some bloke off a big brother forum says they are past their best so it must be true. :laugh2:


Well...lets just wait and see shall we :laugh:

Tom4784 15-05-2021 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046185)
I never said I had a problem with the content of the documentary...
IMO they would have had more of an impact on these issues had they raised them 2/3 years ago at the height of their fame......but the money they were making was obviously more important than their mental health at the time.
I hate racism and I hate bullying and I empathise with what they had to endure..both her and Jesy but why wait until now to bring it to light. People are having to endure bullying and racism all over the world but don’t have the platform they do and don’t have their wealth as some sort of comfort...because it is a comfort.

The same thing would have been said then, 'Oh why didn't they say it sooner, I'm gonna make ignorant remarks about their mental health and their state of mind when I don't know their story or their struggles.'

If someone has suffered from abuse, it is down to them how they share their story, abuse doesn't have a time limit, you don't have to stay silent or speak about it at a specific time.

At the end of the day, a black woman has spoken about her experiences of racism, and white people are trying to dictate how and when she should have spoken about it and are making out that what she is saying is invalid because she's successful or has money. It's all just deeply ignorant.

You say one thing to look good, but your intent says another. 'She said have spoken about this when I dictate she should have (which would have been never), and she has no reason to complain because she has money and success and that makes racial abuse okay! There's also plenty of other people suffering so she should just put up and shut up because that's obviously the smart approach to mental health and getting people to discuss hard topics!'

DouglasS 15-05-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046300)
They are on their way out....they have peaked and are on the slippery slope. It happens to all bands and you are a moron if you cant see it.

Very true, if you compare their sales, interest to 4-5 years ago they’ve plummeted. You only have to compare album sales it about 3x down.... Brit award or not less people listen and buy their music...

They definitely peaked years ago, don’t know why people are trying to argue against it as if sales/music interest hasn’t declined when it has :laugh:

rusticgal 15-05-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046371)
Very true, if you compare their sales, interest to 4-5 years ago they’ve plummeted. You only have to compare album sales it about 3x down.... Brit award or not less people listen and buy their music...

They definitely peaked years ago, don’t know why people are trying to argue against it as if sales/music interest hasn’t declined when it has :laugh:



....and in most cases when one leaves its never quite the same. The Spice Girls dwindled when Geri left...Take That when Robbie left... Also they are young women now...one has a baby on the way...they know its the end. People are in denial :laugh:

rusticgal 15-05-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11046354)
The same thing would have been said then, 'Oh why didn't they say it sooner, I'm gonna make ignorant remarks about their mental health and their state of mind when I don't know their story or their struggles.'

If someone has suffered from abuse, it is down to them how they share their story, abuse doesn't have a time limit, you don't have to stay silent or speak about it at a specific time.

At the end of the day, a black woman has spoken about her experiences of racism, and white people are trying to dictate how and when she should have spoken about it and are making out that what she is saying is invalid because she's successful or has money. It's all just deeply ignorant.

You say one thing to look good, but your intent says another. 'She said have spoken about this when I dictate she should have (which would have been never), and she has no reason to complain because she has money and success and that makes racial abuse okay! There's also plenty of other people suffering so she should just put up and shut up because that's obviously the smart approach to mental health and getting people to discuss hard topics!'


Its my opinion...get over it.

Nicky91 15-05-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11046371)
Very true, if you compare their sales, interest to 4-5 years ago they’ve plummeted. You only have to compare album sales it about 3x down.... Brit award or not less people listen and buy their music...

They definitely peaked years ago, don’t know why people are trying to argue against it as if sales/music interest hasn’t declined when it has :laugh:

where are your sales, where is your music


oh wait :joker::joker::joker::joker:

Liam- 15-05-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046396)
Its my opinion...get over it.

Right, but according to the actual physical, recorded facts, you’re very wrong, get over it

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 03:35 PM

All sales are down because of streaming but some don't deal in facts.

Liam- 15-05-2021 03:42 PM

The lengths people go to demean people for speaking up about things that affect them personally is hilarious, a black woman speaks out about her experiences and set out to try and make a difference and white people make it their mission to mock her career and her talents because of it, it’s disgusting, but not at all surprising for this place

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2021 03:47 PM

Isnt she mixed-race and not black

Did i not see her mum is white?

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046405)
Isnt she mixed-race and not black

Did i not see her mum is white?

Watch the documentary and she discusses her heritage.

But what difference does that actually make if her mum was white?

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046405)
Isnt she mixed-race and not black

Did i not see her mum is white?

Ignorance much, yes she's mixed race . And she has still experienced racism as she is not white.

Even Jade felt she had to hide her heritage , she's also mixed race .she happens to be Arabic.

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046406)
Watch the documentary and she discusses her heritage.

But what difference does that actually make if her mum was white?

well people in this thread keep calling her black and she isnt black she is mixed race

at least stick to the facts :shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11046409)
Ignorance much, yes she's mixed race . And she has still experienced racism as she is not white.

Even Jade felt she had to hide her heritage , she's also mixed race .she happens to be Arabic.

I think arabic is classed as white - it is in the USA

Tom4784 15-05-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046396)
Its my opinion...get over it.

Do I really need to inform you how opinions work again? You can have an opinion, and everyone else can have their views on what you are saying. 'It's my opinion' is not a shield, especially when it comes to ignorance.

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046300)
They are on their way out....they have peaked and are on the slippery slope. It happens to all bands and you are a moron if you cant see it.

Did you watch THE BRIT AWARDS , even after Jesy leaving they still WON best British group.

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11046416)
Did you watch THE BRIT AWARDS .

Not many did

Viewing figures for the Brit Awards have plunged for the fourth year in a row

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046414)
I think arabic is classed as white - it is in the USA

She is Egyptian & Yemeni

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046413)
well people in this thread keep calling her black and she isnt black she is mixed race

at least stick to the facts :shrug:

Both her parents are in fact black, her mum is Jamaican and her dad is from Barbados. You're clueless and just trying to hush a black woman calling out blatantly racism.

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046424)
Both her parents are in fact black, her mum is Jamaican and her dad is from Barbados. You're clueless and just trying to hush a black woman calling out blatantly racism.

I was told " Arabic is white " when I tried to explained Jade's background :facepalm:

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046417)
Not many did

Viewing figures for the Brit Awards have plunged for the fourth year in a row

Well little mix are doing well for themselves, especially after that achievement in history.

Crimson Dynamo 15-05-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11046424)
Both her parents are in fact black, her mum is Jamaican and her dad is from Barbados. You're clueless and just trying to hush a black woman calling out blatantly racism.

no i just googled her mum, after seeing her on that clip, and she looked white and it said she was from HIgh Wycombe

its really not that deep

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11046437)
no i just googled her mum and she looked white and it said she was from HIgh Wycombe

its really not that deep

Even if she was white what actual difference does that make at all?

https://img.wattpad.com/898892c70915...it&w=720&h=720

Amy Jade 15-05-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11046434)
I was told " Arabic is white " when I tried to explained Jade's background :facepalm:

The racists on here hate to see a poc doing well basically. Let's call a spade a spade.

GoldHeart 15-05-2021 04:31 PM

At the end of the day unless you're in Leigh-Ann's or Jade's shoes , nobody will ever understand what they've had to go through.

Some people are so ignorant in life , in the past when I use to hear people say "coloured" , I use to think what a daft description they're not a piece of crayon. And I use to hate hearing "half cast" and I had to correct people.

So today there's no excuse really to still be this uneducated. It's ashame it's still there though.

rusticgal 15-05-2021 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11046399)
Right, but according to the actual physical, recorded facts, you’re very wrong, get over it



Like I said...just watch this space. :laugh:

rusticgal 15-05-2021 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11046402)
The lengths people go to demean people for speaking up about things that affect them personally is hilarious, a black woman speaks out about her experiences and set out to try and make a difference and white people make it their mission to mock her career and her talents because of it, it’s disgusting, but not at all surprising for this place


Where has anyone mocked her talent and career?...

Jordan. 15-05-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11046460)
Where has anyone mocked her talent and career?...

You alone have spent the last day trying to tell us her career is over all because she dared to make a documentary about racism :crazy:

Swan 15-05-2021 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11046467)
You alone have spent the last day trying to tell us her career is over all because she dared to make a documentary about racism :crazy:

She did not say that!

Jordan. 15-05-2021 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11046469)
She did not say that!

She has done it on this very page, get out of her sphincter dear.


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