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Cherie 10-06-2021 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11056846)
makes you wonder what else NHS staff are robbing?

taking the jelly desserts from the geriatric ward :worry:

AnnieK 10-06-2021 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11056842)
well said

I'm glad you feel that way Nicky.

The woman who died will not feel aggrieved but her family will. They may not even have been informed before this woman stole from her. Its a massive abuse of trust

Cal. 10-06-2021 04:54 PM

If a NHS worker wants to treat herself to dinner on my card after I’ve died I’m fine with that tbf

Nicky91 10-06-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11056866)
I'm glad you feel that way Nicky.

The woman who died will not feel aggrieved but her family will. They may not even have been informed before this woman stole from her. Its a massive abuse of trust

of course i know this, it also happens in my nation yes, i see on our crimewatch over here way too many times, also to still living elderly, whom get robbed by young girls usually, whom seem harmless at first but distract the older lady/man long enough to go through his/her wallet, also sometimes before this following their intended victim in the supermarket to look at pin number first


i am most definitely not ageist, and i myself would never ever do something like this

AnnieK 10-06-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 11056882)
If a NHS worker wants to treat herself to dinner on my card after I’ve died I’m fine with that tbf

You might be,but you think your family would be happy that someone who was meant to be looking after you had stolen from you before you were cold?

I would have been livid if an NHS worker had stolen from my mum....she wouldn't have cared but its just the abuse of trust, not the money that would have pissed me off. I would have let her use my mums card had she asked but to gave taken it without asking is grim.

If it was me lying there dead I'd feel like you, but that's not the point....people are bound to be pissed off. If a nurse nicked your wallet while you were visiting someone would you just let that go? This is no different:shrug:

Nicky91 10-06-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11056892)
You might be,but you think your family would be happy that someone who was meant to be looking after you had stolen from you before you were cold?

I would have been livid if an NHS worker had stolen from my mum....she wouldn't have cared but its just the abuse of trust, not the money that would have pissed me off. I would have let her use my mums card had she asked but to gave taken it without asking is grim.

If it was me lying there dead I'd feel like you, but that's not the point....people are bound to be pissed off. If a nurse nicked your wallet while you were visiting someone would you just let that go? This is no different:shrug:

everyone has their own views about this i think

but i now get it myself why some think of this as a crime

Cherie 10-06-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 11056882)
If a NHS worker wants to treat herself to dinner on my card after I’ve died I’m fine with that tbf

why not treat them why you are alive, why wait until you are dead, hand over your card details, I am sure TS's wife would love a treat

bots 10-06-2021 05:04 PM

whose to say they werent doing exactly the same with all the patients in critical care. If someone is caught having done this, its very unlikely it was the first time

Cherie 10-06-2021 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11056892)
You might be,but you think your family would be happy that someone who was meant to be looking after you had stolen from you before you were cold?

I would have been livid if an NHS worker had stolen from my mum....she wouldn't have cared but its just the abuse of trust, not the money that would have pissed me off. I would have let her use my mums card had she asked but to gave taken it without asking is grim.

If it was me lying there dead I'd feel like you, but that's not the point....people are bound to be pissed off. If a nurse nicked your wallet while you were visiting someone would you just let that go? This is no different:shrug:

for all anyone knows it could have been a joint account with her husband/partner, its no better than grave robbing

Samm 10-06-2021 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11056791)
In my scenario they are dead and you are picking their pockets ...

Exactly your own scenario that you’ve created :flower:

Cherie 10-06-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11056894)
everyone has their own views about this i think

but i now get it myself why some think of this as a crime

nah some views are manufactured bait lbr

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 05:12 PM

This is really sad

Marsh. 10-06-2021 05:19 PM

The fact she bought such childish/trivial things with it is :umm2:

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 05:20 PM

I'd like to know more before wading in. I wouldn't do what the worker did, especially after the lady had passed.

However, the lady could have given permission and the worker made an error or even done it not knowing she had passed.

I've been in situations where patients have tried to give me things and even money that I've had to refuse and I know one lady who works with me occasionally in duo calls and she takes patients cards to tap pay for food for them, I don't do it because I know we aren't meant to but the woman has been with the company for about 20 years so she can't be stealing or it'd been noticed imo

Cherie 10-06-2021 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056913)
I'd like to know more before wading in. I wouldn't do what the worker did, especially after the lady had passed.

However, the lady could have given permission and the worker made an error or even done it not knowing she had passed.

I've been in situations where patients have tried to give me things and even money that I've had to refuse and I know one lady who works with me occasionally in duo calls and she takes patients cards to tap pay for food for them, I don't do it because I know we aren't meant to but the woman has been with the company for about 20 years so she can't be stealing or it'd been noticed imo

If you read the report she said she found it on the floor and confused it with her own card...she never mentioned consent by the patient

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 05:44 PM

then maybe she did find it and mistake it for hers?

Swan 10-06-2021 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11056925)
If you read the report she said she found it on the floor and confused it with her own card...she never mentioned consent by the patient

Ironically, if she'd have been 'clever' she could have used that as an excuse - "oh the patient said i could use it". No real way of disproving that. Some criminals are pretty smart, this one on the other hand....

Beso 10-06-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056913)
I'd like to know more before wading in. I wouldn't do what the worker did, especially after the lady had passed.

However, the lady could have given permission and the worker made an error or even done it not knowing she had passed.

I've been in situations where patients have tried to give me things and even money that I've had to refuse and I know one lady who works with me occasionally in duo calls and she takes patients cards to tap pay for food for them, I don't do it because I know we aren't meant to but the woman has been with the company for about 20 years so she can't be stealing or it'd been noticed imo



Your first paragraph....why on earth you feel the need to justify that you wouldnt do what she did is beyond me:shrug:

Beso 10-06-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056927)
then maybe she did find it and mistake it for hers?

She didnt, the court proved that.

Tom4784 10-06-2021 05:51 PM

It's grim and audacious but if it was me, I wouldn't particularly care for such a small amount. If the nurse had made off with the person's life savings, that would be different, but £6? I can forgive that if it was me or a relative. I'd say it speaks to the state of the NHS if a nurse has to steal to pay £6 worth of food.

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11056766)
Get her ugly mug on the internet and shame the heartless woman

Why are you more bothered about £6 than the tories siphoning millions of taxpayer pounds to their backers and friends? You should ask yourself why you think theft on a grand scale is okay, but you're up in arms about £6. In fact, I ask that of all tory supporters, sort out your priorities.

Crimson Dynamo 10-06-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11056936)
snip. I'd say it speaks to the state of the NHS if a nurse has to steal to pay £6 worth of food.



Nurses get on average 34K a year to pretend she was poor and had to steal a dead persons money to buy crisps, sweets and fizzy pop (because when you are starving that is what you deffo would buy) is frankly ridiculous

Cherie 10-06-2021 06:02 PM

Food...:facepalm:

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11056934)
Your first paragraph....why on earth you feel the need to justify that you wouldnt do what she did is beyond me:shrug:

Because our jobs are similar, as we are both caring for others.

I even went more indepth and explained. Patients try and give me items often and I've been asked several times to go to the shop and had to refuse as we aren't to touch their cards.

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11056942)
Nurses get on average 34K a year to pretend she was poor and had to steal a dead persons money to buy crisps, sweets and fizzy pop (because when you are starving that is what you deffo would buy) is frankly ridiculous

They only have pop, crisps and sweets in vending machines don't they?

So even if she was starving she wasn't going to get a Sunday roast out of them is she.

Cherie 10-06-2021 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056947)
They only have pop, crisps and sweets in vending machines don't they?

So even if she was starving she wasn't going to get a Sunday roast out of them is she.

Hospital restaurant....coffee shop in the lobby....if she needed food she could have gone to one of those

Crimson Dynamo 10-06-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056947)
They only have pop, crisps and sweets in vending machines don't they?

So even if she was starving she wasn't going to get a Sunday roast out of them is she.

to suggest a nurse is starving and has to steal dead peoples bank cards to eat jink food is just preposterous

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11056949)
Hospital restaurant....coffee shop in the lobby....if she needed food she could have gone to one of those

I highly doubt any of those were open in January, lockdown and all.

Oliver_W 10-06-2021 06:15 PM

That's why you shouldn't have contactless - if you die, who knows what lunch someone might buy...

AnnieK 10-06-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056927)
then maybe she did find it and mistake it for hers?

The cards were different colours....she made 6 transactions, one later that night and then tried to use it again 4 days later......she surely would have realised days later that she had picked the wrong card up by mistake?

AnnieK 10-06-2021 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11056942)
Nurses get on average 34K a year to pretend she was poor and had to steal a dead persons money to buy crisps, sweets and fizzy pop (because when you are starving that is what you deffo would buy) is frankly ridiculous

She was a HCA, not a nurse and so probably on minimum wage of just over, not £34k

Cherie 10-06-2021 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11056957)
I highly doubt any of those were open in January, lockdown and all.

Yes they were for takeaway...the staff have to eat

Amy Jade 10-06-2021 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11056959)
That's why you shouldn't have contactless - if you die, who knows what lunch someone might buy...

I mean really you should be able to trust those who's job it is to care for you but I get your point

Beso 10-06-2021 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11056936)
It's grim and audacious but if it was me, I wouldn't particularly care for such a small amount. If the nurse had made off with the person's life savings, that would be different, but £6? I can forgive that if it was me or a relative. I'd say it speaks to the state of the NHS if a nurse has to steal to pay £6 worth of food.



Why are you more bothered about £6 than the tories siphoning millions of taxpayer pounds to their backers and friends? You should ask yourself why you think theft on a grand scale is okay, but you're up in arms about £6. In fact, I ask that of all tory supporters, sort out your priorities.



If it was you, you would have bought shoes as well.

Marsh. 10-06-2021 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11056942)
Nurses get on average 34K a year

Can always rely on you pulling that 34k figure out where it doesn't apply.

Swan 10-06-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11056961)
The cards were different colours....she made 6 transactions, one later that night and then tried to use it again 4 days later......she surely would have realised days later that she had picked the wrong card up by mistake?

Yep. There are no excuses. The callousness of the nurse is easily apparent here.

Beso 10-06-2021 07:36 PM

Ex nurse.

AnnieK 10-06-2021 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11057000)
Ex nurse.

She was never a nurse

Tom4784 10-06-2021 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11056942)
Nurses get on average 34K a year to pretend she was poor and had to steal a dead persons money to buy crisps, sweets and fizzy pop (because when you are starving that is what you deffo would buy) is frankly ridiculous

Just a reminder that you're more angry about £6 then millions of taxpayers' money being given away to Tory donors.

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11056945)
Food...:facepalm:

Ah, I forgot, crisps and sweets aren't food... Thank you, for reminding us of that.

Livia 11-06-2021 09:43 AM

I'm surprised some people are dismissing this so lightly. I think it'd be different if it was a relative of theirs that had just died and then been robbed by someone who was trusted to care for them. The amount doesn't matter.

user104658 11-06-2021 10:03 AM

To be honest I don't really buy the excuse that she thought it was hers... I think she just thought no one would ever notice. However it is feasible that she found the card and didn't know who it belonged to (let alone that they had just died). Still not OK obviously... there's a reputational issue here. It would actually be more clear cut if she WAS a nurse as it would be an NMC/Registration issue and there would definitely be an investigation at that level... with her being staff without a formal registration it's more just down to the employer, and I guess the police, although I doubt the police are massively interested over £6.


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