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Oliver_W 05-06-2022 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11173782)

You say gender identity is a social construct, that is so behind the times.

Which scientists agree with this?

Gender identity is literally a belief, there's nothing there.

user104658 05-06-2022 11:59 AM

“Identity” is a social construct full stop, so there’s no question of gender identity not being a social construct.

It’s an entirely benign statement to say so, but for some reason it’s taken as offensive. Social construct doesn’t mean “not real”.

ThomasC 05-06-2022 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11173835)
Which scientists agree with this?

Gender identity is literally a belief, there's nothing there.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/b...ly-constructed

A well known source again it is behind the times to view it as just a social construct, it's a lot more than that.

You're making yourself look silly now. Behave :nono:


Again

ThomasC 05-06-2022 12:38 PM

Stopping digging yourself into a hole. I've blown you out the water twice nice. Nice to see you didn't come back with the transgender article

Also love how you just quoted that part.

Here's some more links if you like;

https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-re...ial-construct/

https://www.heritage.org/gender/comm...e-the-big-ones

https://erlc.com/resource-library/ar...ruct-position/

Would you like anymore or are you giving up with making yourself look like a baffoon?

Beso 05-06-2022 03:25 PM

Does the biological side of things cover the ages you are attracted to people sexually?

Oliver_W 05-06-2022 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11173849)
Would you like anymore or are you giving up with making yourself look like a baffoon?

:joker:
All you did was post a few links to some blogs, probably the first ones you found on Google, without having read them. If you had read them, you might have noticed nuggets like It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female , which is obviously bonkers.

ThomasC 05-06-2022 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11173892)
:joker:
All you did was post a few links to some blogs, probably the first ones you found on Google, without having read them. If you had read them, you might have noticed nuggets like It is counter to medical science to use chromosomes, hormones, internal reproductive organs, external genitalia, or secondary sex characteristics to override gender identity for purposes of classifying someone as male or female , which is obviously bonkers.

You asked which scientists agreed with it. I found you several links. Where else would I find this information from other than Google? I didn't need to read the whole article of every link to prove my point.

Still waiting to know how it impacts your life how someone else lives theirs?

Oliver_W 05-06-2022 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11173901)

Still waiting to know how it impacts your life how someone else lives theirs?

I never said I had a personal problem with people acting like something they're not. I dislike the negative effects that come from transwomen in women's spaces and sports, but I bear them no personal ill-will.

user104658 05-06-2022 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11173848)
https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/b...ly-constructed



A well known source again it is behind the times to view it as just a social construct, it's a lot more than that.



You're making yourself look silly now. Behave :nono:





Again



Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11173849)
Stopping digging yourself into a hole. I've blown you out the water twice nice. Nice to see you didn't come back with the transgender article

Also love how you just quoted that part.

Here's some more links if you like;

https://qz.com/1190996/scientific-re...ial-construct/

https://www.heritage.org/gender/comm...e-the-big-ones

https://erlc.com/resource-library/ar...ruct-position/

Would you like anymore or are you giving up with making yourself look like a baffoon?



None of these are research papers? These are articles and opinion pieces, not scientific studies or research.

ThomasC 05-06-2022 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11173953)
None of these are research papers? These are articles and opinion pieces, not scientific studies or research.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar...3DbgkxbkozzIcJ

We conclude by considering the possibilities for the clinical encounter to subvert dominant gender ideology by authorizing more fluid gender identities and sexed bodies.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar...3DscqGpS27A4kJ

This article describes the emergence of transgender theory from feminist and queer theories that used social constructivist approaches to challenge essentialist ideas that maintained the oppression of certain gender and sexual identities.

https://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar...3DlyXI3QgQcKcJ

The discussion advances a critical analysis of the dominant gender paradigm using two alternative theoretical perspectives on gender—queer theory and social constructionism.



So I will go back to original comment where I basically say that social construct is behind the times in matters relating to transgender. There's a lot more to it.

The problem is social constructionism or how people think, the problem is not with transgender people, but instead others ignorant views.

I didn't once say social constructs don't exist, but what I am saying is that they can be behind the times......you have to read between the lines.


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