He is my local MP and he is ****e

He was well aware Starmer would have no choice but to sack him so it was a deliberate cynical ploy imo

No
he was standing with workers
ready to die on his word,
which he did,
Sacked from the Front bench.

yeah right power mad more like

Labour is verging on a total split

it's amusing really. Labour are just as split as the tories on the way forward, but instead of keeping their mouths shut and capitalising on the tory mess, they have hit the headlines with their own mess. Any hope that Starmer would win the next election becomes less likely each day. Given that Angela is in a relationship with Tarry, its inevitable that there is going to be a big split now between the leader and deputy

Starmer wants to stop that,
he needs to give a Live interview.

The Press could ask him
why he has changed his mind
on not taking over, the railways now.

This isn't true, bots.

Within 2000 votes of forming a government in 17, and the recently released Forde report (at starmers instruction) explains that the labour right were actively holding money away from close races to keep their own party out of government, and his policies are still overwhelmingly popular, but the right wing media smears and brexit killed him in 19.

We have a group of people known as "the greatest generation" in this country, and when they came back from the horrors of WWII, they chose a Corbyn type party, which resulted in the NHS, a welfare state, access to education for working class people, and wages that could support families.

The problem in this country is the media relationship with the tory party, and the lengths they're willing to go to protect it.

Mick Schooling Starmer

I could just about be led to believe that no matter the public presentation they desperately want to, that possibly really neither of the 2 main Parties actually DO want to win the next election.

Starmer is intelligent enough to know, this was only likely to portray Labour in a negative.
Yet didn't seem to consider that.

What's he going to do if alien like Truss does bring in legislation against Unions and rights as present to strike .
He'll have to oppose it but in what relevant and convincing way.

I wasn't born in 1979, however all my studies brought me to think Thatcher was right in her industrial relations reforns and curbing the power of the Unions at that time.

However by the end I would conclude myself she'd gone a bit too far.

Subsequent years after her with the rising inequalities there are now.
I think too much has been taken from the Unions now.

If Truss takes the UK down a route to please the rabid right wing media, I can see much greater chaos looming from that extreme policy.

However where will it leave Starmer?
Because action and much more passion will be needed to fight that.
Not just cleverly worded, near non confrontational or vaguely detailed scripting.

Starmer has spoken
Clip just on SkyNewsHD
He stands by his actions

[Workers should be offered pay rises in line
with inflation - however Labour's position
is that pay negotiations are for unions and ministers.
Speaking for the first time since he
was sacked, Sir Keir explained: "Sam Tarry was sacked
because he booked himself onto media programmes
without permission and then made up policy on the hoof.

"That can't be tolerated in any organisation because
we have got collective responsibility,
so that was relatively straightforward."]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-le...-line-12660613

[QUOTE=arista;11195060][Workers should be offered pay rises in line
with inflation - however Labour's position
is that pay negotiations are for unions and ministers.
Speaking for the first time since he
was sacked, Sir Keir explained: "Sam Tarry was sacked
because he booked himself onto media programmes
without permission and then made up policy on the hoof.

"That can't be tolerated in any organisation because
we have got collective responsibility,
so that was relatively straightforward."]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cp...i070929139.jpg

Well he wasn't MAKING policy on the hoof.
He was stating his view that rises should be bigger.

Starmer never answers what he even thinks rises could or should be.
So how was this against and contradicting policy.
Since Starmer hasn't a POLICY or even a view it seems.

I am wondering why Keir Starmer isn't the third candidate in the Tory leadership run.:hehe:

:joker:

Sam was just live again on SkyNewsHD

At a communication union Strike.
Central London BT Tower

That doesn't make any sense Starmer when at present there's no solid policy directive on the strikes or the size of any increases of pay.

Saying it's for the companies and unions to work out but adding the government SHOULD be involved.
Is NOT a policy.

It's not even basic common sense.

It's wrong that a Labour leader would order any of his MPs to not be seen on a picket line of a justified dispute.

Sam Tarry stated they should get rises in line with inflation.
So if he was wrong to say that as HIS PERSONAL view.
Presumably Starmer then doesn't believe the workers do.
Explain that one Starmer and good luck trying to, because he will risk alienating hoards of working people on that one.
AGAIN.

Starmer "booked himself onto media programmes
without permission and then made up policy on the hoof."

SkyNewsHD
pointed out Sam did say New Policy
for when Labour take power.

it's not believable that he was sacked for going on TV. MP's make off the cuff statements on air all the time . If thats the case, does that mean that when Angela called all tories scum, it was an authorised labour position? I don't think so :laugh:

She got away with that.


Sam Spoke on long interviews
TV news and Live Radio.

[Labour MP Sam Tarry has demanded further
details about a vote which led to him being
deselected as a candidate by his local members,
calling it a "manufactured political circus".

The former shadow transport minister
faced the ballot in his Ilford South constituency
on Monday night after local branches voted
in favour of the reselection process.

Mr Tarry lost by 499 votes to 361,
meaning he will not be able to fight for the seat
as the Labour candidate at the next general election,
with local members choosing the leader
of Redbridge Council, Jas Athwal, to replace him.

It is the first time one of the party's MPs has been
ousted this way in more than 10 years.]

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-mp...party-12717694

Bye Sam

Starmer does not want you.

Joey - have you watched the labour files documentary?

back stabbing in politics who knew

it's all dodgy af going back to the fact the winner was deselected at the last election as i said in the starmers labour thread :laugh:

Yes a bit Nasty.


Starmer not willing to forgive his error
of speaking of a Policy on the Strike Picket line.

Also, just stated on Times Radio Live
Sam was the manager of Jeremy Corbyn.

Which tells is more of the reason.