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Nicky91 01-08-2022 01:28 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

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is an English adjective meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" that originated in African-American Vernacular English (AAVE). Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism, and has also been used as shorthand for American Left ideas involving identity politics and social justice, such as the notion of white privilege and slavery reparations for African Americans.

The phrase stay woke had emerged in AAVE by the 1930s, in some contexts referring to an awareness of the social and political issues affecting African Americans. The phrase was uttered in a recording by Lead Belly and later by Erykah Badu. Following the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri in 2014, the phrase was popularised by Black Lives Matter (BLM) activists seeking to raise awareness about police shootings of African Americans. After seeing use on Black Twitter, the term woke became an Internet meme and was increasingly used by white people, often to signal their support for BLM, which some commentators have criticised as cultural appropriation. Mainly associated with the millennial generation, the term spread internationally and was added to the Oxford English Dictionary in 2017.

The terms woke capitalism and woke-washing were coined to describe companies who signal support for progressive causes as a substitute for genuine reform. By 2020, parts of the political center and right wing in several Western countries were using the term woke, often in an ironic way, as an insult for various progressive or leftist movements and ideologies perceived as overzealous, performative, or insincere. In turn, some commentators came to consider it an offensive term with negative associations to those who promote political ideas involving identity and race. By 2021, woke had become used almost exclusively as a pejorative, with most prominent usages of the word taking place in a disparaging context

Among American conservatives, woke has come to be used primarily as an insult.[1][4][46] In this pejorative sense, woke means "following an intolerant and moralising ideology".[19] British journalist Steven Poole comments that the term is used to mock "overrighteous liberalism".[47] Romano says that on the American right, "'woke' – like its cousin 'canceled' – bespeaks 'political correctness' gone awry".[4]

Opponents of progressive social movements often use the term mockingly or sarcastically,[4][48] implying that "wokeness" is an insincere form of performative activism.[46][4] Such critics often believe that movements such as Black Lives Matter exaggerate the extent of social problems.[48] Linguist and social critic John McWhorter argues that the history of woke is similar to that of politically correct, another term once used self-descriptively by the left which was appropriated by the right as an insult, in a process similar to the euphemism treadmill.[2]

Members of the Republican Party in the U.S. have been increasingly using the term to criticize members of the Democratic Party, while more centrist Democrats use it against more left-leaning members of their own party; such critics accuse those on their left of using cancel culture to damage the employment prospects of those who are not considered sufficiently "woke".[1]

FiveThirtyEight writer Perry Bacon Jr. suggests that this "anti-woke posture" is connected to a long-standing promotion of backlash politics by the Republican Party, wherein it promotes white and conservative fear in response to activism by African Americans as well as changing cultural norms.[49][1]

By 2021, woke had become used almost exclusively as a pejorative,[better source needed] with most prominent usages of the word taking place in a disparaging context.[1] The term woke, along with other terms such as cancel culture and critical race theory,[50] became a large part of Republican Party electoral strategy. Former President Donald Trump stated in 2021 that the Biden administration is "destroying" the country "with woke", and Republican Missouri senator Josh Hawley used the term to promote his upcoming book by saying the "woke mob" was trying to suppress it

Scholars Michael B. McCormack and Althea Legal-Miller argue that the phrase stay woke echoes Martin Luther King, Jr.'s exhortation "to stay awake, to adjust to new ideas, to remain vigilant and to face the challenge of change"
meaning of the word ''Woke'' on wikipedia




consider myself woke then, and i am not ashamed of that at all, why should i, when its not a bad thing

Crimson Dynamo 01-08-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11196723)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke



meaning of the word ''Woke'' on wikipedia




consider myself woke then, and i am not ashamed of that at all, why should i, when its not a bad thing

"a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism"

Jordan. 01-08-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11196704)
Apparently GTA is being called "woke" because they removed some trans NPCs after people chimped out.


https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...1&d=1659358795

Was it the same people that let their kids play the game but take issue with drag queens reading books to them?

Oliver_W 01-08-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11196716)
Isn't removing trans NPC's the opposite of woke?

I think the issue was the transwomen were accurately mockingly portrayed, instead of looking like women.

Crimson Dynamo 01-08-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11196729)
Was it the same people that let their kids play the game but take issue with drag queens reading books to them?

Were you not one of the many saying video games dont have any effect on kids regarding violence etc

lol

(real life isnt a kids game)

Mystic Mock 01-08-2022 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 11196685)
i dont really hear people use this phrasing anymore

Oh people still use the word.

In my Internet circles it's just as commonly used as racist is.

Oliver_W 01-08-2022 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11196729)
Was it the same people that let their kids play the game but take issue with drag queens reading books to them?

Nah it was people that some might call "woke" who were complaining because it's not a flattering portrayal?

Swan 01-08-2022 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11196769)
Oh people still use the word.

In my Internet circles it's just as commonly used as racist is.

Yeah "racist" is as common as "woke" nowadays. Here's a good example of "racist" being over used or just plain incorrect - This guy i sometimes watch on twitch kept hitting lampposts/light poles when playing GTA, he said "i hate poles". Of course, almost immediately in chat were like "why do you hate poles, could be seen as racist you know". I can't remember the exact wording, but it was along those lines. I mean can a white British person be racist towards a Polish person? What even is the white to black ratio in Poles, like 1 in a Million. I dunno, he didn't even mean Polish people, but again it's people nowadays on their high horse ever ready to point the finger and brand!

Mystic Mock 01-08-2022 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11196804)
Yeah "racist" is as common as "woke" nowadays. Here's a good example of "racist" being over used or just plain incorrect - This guy i sometimes watch on twitch kept hitting lampposts/light poles when playing GTA, he said "i hate poles". Of course, almost immediately in chat were like "why do you hate poles, could be seen as racist you know". I can't remember the exact wording, but it was along those lines. I mean can a white British person be racist towards a Polish person? What even is the white to black ratio in Poles, like 1 in a Million. I dunno, he didn't even mean Polish people, but again it's people nowadays on their high horse ever ready to point the finger and brand!

That's an example of the guy's audience not following the context of what he was saying imo.

That ironically does happen a lot in false racism claims.

Jordan. 01-08-2022 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11196765)
Were you not one of the many saying video games dont have any effect on kids regarding violence etc

lol

(real life isnt a kids game)

No? I find it concerning you think it's an appropriate game for children.

Crimson Dynamo 01-08-2022 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 11196812)
No? I find it concerning you think it's an appropriate game for children.

I very much doubt you do

Crimson Dynamo 22-08-2022 03:04 PM

Laurence Fox blasts "evil woke culture"
 

Mystic Mock 22-08-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11203775)

People like him are a problem in a different way, and if anything he encourages the far left to stay far left with his views.

bots 22-08-2022 04:24 PM

CNN is basically being dismantled because of it's woke views, so no, it's not overused

Nicky91 21-10-2022 09:02 AM

woke people i find to be quite hypocrite, because being anti russia, anti iran, anti qatar

you are still what wokeness is actually against, against xenophobia, racism



no offense of course, but this is what kinda bothers me the most about woke culture


examples i take from current russia-ukraine crisis where it is the PC thing to be pro-ukraine but anti russia, and regarding the chaos around the world cup, people who are against qatar and now iran


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