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Crimson Dynamo 02-04-2023 07:06 PM

I do not agree with mobs like this who think they are so right other people and their opinions do not count so they can do things like stop traffic etc

louts

jet 02-04-2023 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11278068)
Whatever the outcome of people building things for us, people will die on those building sites. Let's ban building things and ban building sites and construction work? It's cruel to humans.

Whatever the outcome of people using transport to get to a destination, people will be killed. Let's ban transport, it's cruel to humans.

Whatever the outcome of people eating food. People will die. Let's ban food, it's cruel to humans.

Ridiculous comparisons Alf.
Let’s have a little flutter and watch on TV a programme where actual human beings may die on building sites and in transport accidents and choking to death on their food.
For enjoyment, you know? :rolleyes:

jet 02-04-2023 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11278074)
I do not agree with mobs like this who think they are so right other people and their opinions do not count so they can do things like stop traffic etc

louts

They won't be stopping traffic, they will be blocking the race course.
I hope they succeed.

joeysteele 02-04-2023 07:34 PM

I'm sure security now, even greater police presence, no matter the cost will be heavily strengthened after this advance notice of disruption.

The Horses cannot speak for themselves Human beings can speak for them.
It may very well be extreme action but as the detailed post from jet shows.
The changes to this race and course, (I won't call them improvements), have been token gestures more than likely only.

I too however, hope the protesters can succeed, because it's warranted and they deserve to succeed in my view.

Crimson Dynamo 02-04-2023 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11278076)
They won't be stopping traffic, they will be blocking the race course.
I hope they succeed.

i hope they are arrested and jailed for their arrogance

Crimson Dynamo 02-04-2023 07:43 PM

Unrepentant eco-fanatics double down on plot to sabotage the Grand National:
XR offshoot vow to cause 'summer of animal rising' including breaking into
farms, disrupting diners, blocking supermarket aisles and stopping traffic on
roads

They also pledged to stop traffic across Britain, the same tactic used by Just
Stop Oil to cause chaos on crucial highways and motorways last year.


This conversation is vital if we are to tackle the root causes of our climate and
ecological crises.’

(zealots and hard left nut-jobs)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-National.html

Alf 02-04-2023 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11278075)
Ridiculous comparisons Alf.
Let’s have a little flutter and watch on TV a programme where actual human beings may die on building sites and in transport accidents and choking to death on their food.
For enjoyment, you know? :rolleyes:

Well you have to call them ridiculous for you to win the argument, I didn't think you were going to agree with them. The thing is, I agree that they're ridiculous, but they're the same arguments you're making. I'm pointing out how your arguments are ridiculous too. Your argument is basically, there's risks.

Alf 02-04-2023 07:52 PM

You've made your arguments for years and years. The horse racing authorities have even done everything to alter things to make things safer, they've listened to you and made compromises. But the fact is, this a democracy and the nation wants the Grand National. Move on, you're boring.

user104658 02-04-2023 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11277808)
No
it is tradition
Even you, Jet,
must understand that.


To many betting companies
could go under

Bookies don't make money off the national unless a random outsider wins. Other than using it as an advertising opportunity to bring in new customers.

And it was getting less and less turnover year on year every year I worked for a bookmaker.

user104658 02-04-2023 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11278083)
But the fact is, this a democracy and the nation wants the Grand National. Move on, you're boring.

Nah. The GN and horseracing in general is swiftly going out of fashion. It's already an older gent's betting sport of choice and in a few decades that'll taper off too. Younger folks like their slots machines and their football. American sports are on the rise, too. Racing is on the way out.

jet 02-04-2023 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11278082)
Well you have to call them ridiculous for you to win the argument, I didn't think you were going to agree with them. The thing is, I agree that they're ridiculous, but they're the same arguments you're making. I'm pointing out how your arguments are ridiculous too. Your argument is basically, there's risks.

Risks that lead to death, injuries (horses may need to be put down AFTER the race too) the drugging and whipping of dumb animals with no choice aren't an essential part of life. Why would anyone not mind horses suffering for their own entertainment? It's barbaric!

Kazanne 03-04-2023 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 11278142)
Risks that lead to death, injuries (horses may need to be put down AFTER the race too) the drugging and whipping of dumb animals with no choice aren't an essential part of life. Why would anyone not mind horses suffering for their own entertainment? It's barbaric!

100% Jet,why should animals suffer for human entertainment,such as dog racing,bull fighting,etc,its all cruel and wrong,just because those innocents cannot speak,if humans were dying from it there would be an outcry.

arista 15-04-2023 05:38 AM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...fb557df6d6.png

arista 15-04-2023 04:02 PM

Some Punks
are now trying to stop the Race
By trying to get on the Grass.

Possible Delay.

arista 15-04-2023 04:04 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04...1563301310.jpg

Thats it lads
Drag her out.

arista 15-04-2023 04:05 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04...1549906397.jpg

Even Armed Police
are there

arista 15-04-2023 04:06 PM

Official Delay
now

arista 15-04-2023 04:09 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04...1555872501.jpg

arista 15-04-2023 04:11 PM

The Horses are getting hot in this heat
this is bad news.

They have to go back to the Padock area
to stop getting hot

Kazanne 15-04-2023 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11281105)
The Horses are getting hot in this heat
this is bad news.

They have to go back to the Padock area
to stop getting hot

As if they really care about the horses,the loss of money will be on their minds.

MTVN 15-04-2023 04:14 PM

The presenting team on ITV doing a good job of highlighting how stupid the protesters are

arista 15-04-2023 04:15 PM

ITV1HD
just showed loads in Pink
trying to get on the grass

arista 15-04-2023 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11281110)
The presenting team on ITV doing a good job of highlighting how stupid the protesters are



Yes showing the nice trainers
who are polite.

arista 15-04-2023 04:16 PM

The Race was meant to start now

MTVN 15-04-2023 04:16 PM

'What would happen if you gave one of these people a thoroughbred'

'More horses suffer accidents in a field than a racing'

'These are the best looked after horses in the world'

:clap2:

joeysteele 15-04-2023 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11281109)
As if they really care about the horses,the loss of money will be on their minds.

Exactly and what heat???

It's not like it's 2O°+ there..

It is only money, I wonder what the Police really think on days like this.
The police have seen horses had to be killed from being in this trauma course

Alf 15-04-2023 04:17 PM

Mick Fitzgerald mentioning that horses are their families lives. It's a 24 hour job of looking after horses and it's done out of love. These protesters spend zero hours looking after horses.

arista 15-04-2023 04:18 PM


MTVN 15-04-2023 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11281117)
Mick Fitzgerald mentioning that horses are their families lives. It's a 24 hour job of looking after horses and it's done out of love. These protesters spend zero hours looking after horses.

They'd have no idea, horses would lead miserable lives in the control of this lot. Would no doubt be straggly, unwell and uncared for

arista 15-04-2023 04:20 PM


Alf 15-04-2023 04:21 PM

They're actually a danger to these horses now. That's how much they care.

Horse racing is on most days of the year, why choose today? Because it's about their attention seeking and nothing else. That's how much they care for the horses.

arista 15-04-2023 04:22 PM

The Bell has Gone

Race getting ready.

arista 15-04-2023 04:23 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04...1575299500.jpg

arista 15-04-2023 04:25 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04...1575159812.jpg

Kazanne 15-04-2023 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11281115)
'What would happen if you gave one of these people a thoroughbred'

'More horses suffer accidents in a field than a racing'

'These are the best looked after horses in the world'

:clap2:

Sorry but thats not true in some cases.

arista 15-04-2023 04:29 PM

Race about to start

arista 15-04-2023 04:30 PM

The Race is on.

Kazanne 15-04-2023 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11281122)
They're actually a danger to these horses now. That's how much they care.

Horse racing is on most days of the year, why choose today? Because it's about their attention seeking and nothing else. That's how much they care for the horses.

The horses are not in danger while they are not being raced Alf, thats an excuse for the owners to pretend they care, of course they will pick this race as it is the main one,they are making a point, they are hurting no one just the money makers, racing s cruel and this one more than any.

Kazanne 15-04-2023 04:33 PM

Just caught a bit of it its actually disgusting ,loose horse ploughed into etc,enjoy the cruelty

joeysteele 15-04-2023 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11281130)
The horses are not in danger while they are not being raced Alf, thats an excuse for the owners to pretend they care, of course they will pick this race as it is the main one,they are making a point, they are hurting no one just the money makers, racing s cruel and this one more than any.

I agree with every word you say there.


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