This is the closest description to how I view Noky. Her person or personality aren't really my thing, but I admire how she hasn't "picked a side". I find the divided house story line to be quite boring. The fact she is being ostracized for not drawing a line is her one endearing quality for me.
Conversely, Trish slapping down Jenkins attempt at an olive branch shows a significant flaw in her character. It continued the cycle of divide. If her answer was different, these housemates would have had a chance at reconciliation and she might not have been nominated this week.

that's very true on Trish. She is as responsible as anyone for there being a divide, but the audience seem to like her for that

I blame the edit to some degree. Someone who tries to control their composure so much is probably hard to distill down to compelling content. The small talk mostly won't air which is probably where most of her thoughts are. For BB, character development is what happens when people come together or clash in a big way. She doesn't trust anyone and thus generally runs from confrontation to her own detriment because that is how the public will get to know her. I am beginning to think she shouldn't have been cast.

See you say this but posters do seem to be able to identify lots of different aspects of Noky's personality. Even people who aren't that keen on her generally agree she's very gracious, intelligent and well spoken. To that I'd add that she's very empathetic, self-aware, trusting, good humoured and energetic. We've seen evidence of all of those traits in the house. And if you wanted to talk about possible bad points she no doubt has those too as the criticisms of her make out. They normally highlight that she can come across as a people pleaser, a bit detached, averse to confrontation and can be emotional.

So imo she's revealed a huge amount of her personality for someone that is only 'surface level'. I think that she's shown a lot of depth and the fact that she's been discussed and analysed so much in the last couple of weeks shows what a great housemate she is

…I’m just thinking, in terms of a group dynamic situation…is part of why she wouldn’t seem to have ‘a fit’…also because maybe groups are drawn to what someone would bring to a group…as in for the garden group, Noky doesn’t really have a place in and with the meanness they’ve displayed…like Chanelle for instance…she’s not only now displaying that she’s a willing part of negativity but possibly ‘a leader’…so she’s been a natural ‘recruit’…in the other group, she’s been close to Trish as an individual but that’s the thing with that group…there is individual closeness and friendships etc…but they’re not a group in the same way as the garden ones…so she couldn’t find a fit anyway in something that hasn’t really formed in the same way…?…I don’t know, I’m just musing…

Yinrun highlighted why she doesn't fit yesterday. First she nominated her, and then when it was announced that she was up for eviction, Yinrun held Noky's hand and comforted her.

What in any of that makes sense?

..because in having to choose someone to nominate and having reasons for that, wouldn’t and doesn’t mean that there isn’t a feeling a comfort also…it isn’t an all or nothing thing…things don’t always fit exactly into making complete sense in the artificial world of a BB dynamics…i mean, if Noky hasn’t fitted and reasons are being pondered etc…Yinrun’s comfort doesn’t have any baring, surely…interesting as well, as I’ve just thought about it this moment…it’s always been a bit confusing to me why Jordan has consistently nominated Noky when there isn’t any obvious reason to and also he/they’ve been quite friendly also …I don’t know if he’s comforted Noky but he’s nominated her most times, hasn’t he…?..or a lot of times…it’s a layered/complicated world, in the BB house…

…is this the first time that Yinrun has nominated Noky…?…I would assume that she nominated from the heart but that doesn’t mean it could be an action from the heart also to comfort someone if that’s what’s being felt….

She comes across as a bit boring on the live feed

The truth is, if a housemate gets along well with everyone, as the numbers decrease they would have to nominate someone they liked. Consequently, she has chosen the person she least relates to. But that doesn’t mean she doesn’t like or care for Noky, or that she is unable to feel empathy for her.

there are too many left for that to happen yet.

I think it was a tactical vote, which is fine, but it should be seen for what it is. She heard Noky getting huge cheers, so she thought, lets get rid of her before the final

Its funny because Matty can flit between the groups with ease and gets no flak for it

Noky is meant to stick like glue to Trish because she stood up for her, yet Chanelle is demonised for sticking with her friends, what is Noky meant to to I wonder

…if it was a tactical vote from Yinrun…then she would have to have anticipated and calculated as it were…that for one, Noky would have to receive enough multiple votes to be up …and also that she would be unpopular enough with the public to be voted out…and Noky had huge crowd cheers less than a week ago…so that would all be some kind of crazy tactics…anyway, I do personally believe that Yinrun finds it difficult to vote and has been consistent with that…so whether it’s easier or harder to understand a nomination, I do believe it’s from her own heart and thoughts….

The truth is housemates are nominating the person they least like, rather than a person they dislike. Jordan has explained previously that he doesn’t feel he is seeing the real Noky beneath the surface, and that he doesn’t fully trust her.

We all perceive people differently, and I think that, as observers, viewers like to see housemates in a very one-dimensional and cartoon-like way, and can, therefore, become very polarised in their views.

A lot of viewers can, or will, therefore, interpret every action of a housemate they like positively, while judging every action of those they dislike negatively. We see this all the time in the comments.

It all becomes a bit extreme, and sometimes we can forget that every housemate in there has layers - they all have good qualities and some less appealing qualities, but that’s the nature of humankind. They are much more complex than the one-dimensional caricatures that are painted of them,

It's so hypocritical of Jordan when even his voice is fake :laugh:

…yeah, one of the most common reasons given was…the housemates that I most want to spend my last week with etc…the ones that I connect with most…BB life has much more layers to the housemates than we might see and discuss etc…

Not that bad.


She has Experienced, a better crew

I think the difference between Matty and Noky, is that he has been very open and true to his real character and values. He seems able to make connections with people from all walks of life, and has shown kindness and support to housemates on both sides throughout. He hasn’t wavered from that, and seems real.

Noky, on the other hand, seems much more distant and aloof. She doesn’t seem connected to anyone on a deeper level. And in contrast to Matty, she seemed to align herself to the garden group much more before the falling out with Paul, at which point she flipped to the other group,

We all have different values and morals, and I think both Jordan and Yinrun have justifiable views of Noky. It’s not a case of them necessarily disliking her, or expecting her to ‘stick like glue to Trish’ , but more a case of them recognising elements of Noky’s character that go against their core values.

In some ways it is much better and much more honest to vote according to your own views, values and feelings, rather than going with a group dynamic. It shows they are assessing each housemate as individuals, rather than on a group identity.

Noky and Jordan actually seem quite friendly now that he's spent time with her and given her a chance which he didn't do in the first couple of weeks. I mentioned yesterday that him and Henry were quite cliquey at the start and Henry confirmed that for me with his nomination for Noky last night for daring to join 'their village'

Matty chats with all of that group though Noki talks to Jordan Trish and seems to exclude Henry and Yinrun

But the truth is, MTVN, that you can be friendly with others - particularly when having to share a house with them for 6 weeks - without trusting them fully or liking every aspect of their character.
And Henry didn’t vote Noky for ‘daring to join their village’ - that’s far too simplistic- his vote was about the reasons behind her choice to do so, and for what that suggested about her.

But if he had a shred of awareness he'd appreciate that she mainly did so because she'd been subject to harassment from Paul and felt completely isolated, his comments suggest he was totally unempathetic to that fact.

I quite like Henry but I do think he's shown himself to be lacking in awareness for anyone but himself. The amount of times he's used Trish as an outlet for all his problems but has never showed her any support

He hasn't nominated Noki.

…I think also, we see things from perspectives of different and varied associations of housemates…will we judge them more harshly or will we try to understand actions more etc…?…it’ll be the same for the housemates, which is why it’s not easy to relate one specific thing to another or one housemate’s actions with another…

I really don’t see her that way, and thought her reasons were justifiable, particularly as she is so close and loyal to Trish. And I don’t see Yinrun as some evil little schemer and, surely if she was, she would realise that the cheers suggest Noky wouldn’t be evicted, so it would be a wasted vote.

I can agree that Jordan can lack some empathy for others, but to his credit, he has said he’s seen a different side to Noky since she has spent more time with the group.

Henry, I just don’t perceive in the same way as you. From my perception, he has shown a lot of kindness, friendship and support to other housemates, and he seems to get along well with the majority.

…that’s really why I can’t get the tactic thing at all or any forethought into it…surely Noky more at the height of her popularity and the most ‘pointless’ housemate to vote for in any tactical way…so far as the housemate must feel, I mean…because she’s stayed over what they felt were such potential winners../Paul and Dylan…so it wouldn’t only be pointless, it would feel almost self harming also…it would surely for me be no question of being a heart vote and consistent with Yinrun’s nominations in general through her time…

Noky isn't going anywhere I think she will make the final so her fence sitting and not picking a side will have worked.

Fair enough, I'd like to see more from Henry especially given how important Trish has been to him in there but it will be interesting how the next few highlights pan out

Henry needs a secret mission.

What I've learned from this- do not be a floater for a long period of time. Upon meeting people pick a side and pick a side quickly and stick with them. Also do not have neutral opinions and sit on the fence have a strong opinion and be prepared to back it up at all times


Well dang can people have peace while still trying to figure things out and still be liked and loved or nah ?

That’d be interesting, but he seems to be gaining immensely in popularity even without that.

True he doesn't need it but would be good to see him given one. King Henry for the win!

Matty has done more or less the same as Noky and he doesn't get any back lash in the house. If Zak had stayed in the house things would have been very different for Noky I think, he was her person in there

Matty for me has his own voice and that whats sets them aside, Noky just sets Trish free.

Henry never said that...his reason was very valid. Noky suddenly started spending all her time with the upstairs group to get away from Paul and then as soon as he left she went back to the garden group....

I think you can be a permanent floater as long as you are open, honest, true to yourself and stand by your principles, and as long as you don’t speak behind people’s backs or express conflicting views depending on who you are talking to. You need to show you can be trusted, and not playing one group off against another.

Matty has shown you can be a floater, getting along with people on both sides by being just like this. Despite being close to her, he was open and honest with Trish in telling her that he did not share her view of Dylan when she initially expressed negative views about him. In being honest and upfront, he shows he’s trustworthy.

Which made him feel they were being used.

I think she was more with one group (Olivia/Tom) and neglected her relationships with the other group (Jordan and yinran), then she mistakenly nominated Olivia pissing the one group off and because she failed to make connections she kinda lost support from both groups

She still spends more time with the upstairs lot it seems to me but the groups have become more fluid now that Paul's gone. Henry spoke about their group as if it was a closed shop