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Zizu 12-11-2023 10:52 AM

The HYPERBOLE OF HATE for Trish is hilarious
 
Maybe everyone should just calm down and wait .. She will have to either have to explain the reason they are there or make a an embarrassing, grovelling apology .


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thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383689)
Maybe everyone should just calm down and wait .. She will have to either have to explain the reason they are there or make a an embarrassing, grovelling apology .


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I’m personally very calm. I don’t want to wait though. I will discuss it because it’s an interesting subject and that’s why we’re here - to talk about Big Brother.

Zizu 12-11-2023 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by thom_bombadil (Post 11383691)
I’m personally very calm. I don’t want to wait though. I will discuss it because it’s an interesting subject and that’s why we’re here - to discuss Big Brother.


Discussion is always good .. when we know the facts ..

If they can hack into NASA and the Whitehouse I’m sure getting into someone’s Twitter account is fairly easy


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GlitterUK 12-11-2023 10:59 AM

Deleting the account was the most suspect thing. An apology right away would have been the best route. If it wasn't Trish that done it we would have seen something on her instagram by now surely denying things?

thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383694)
Discussion is always good .. when we know the facts ..

If they can hack into NASA and the Whitehouse I’m sure getting into someone’s Twitter account is fairly easy


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Ok, and if that turns out to be the case, then we can all go from there. However, based on what’s been discovered, I don’t think anyone should be trying to explain away Trish’s wrongdoing.

I think she’s clearly changed her views since she posted the tweets, but she still did it (as far as we know).

MTVN 12-11-2023 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChalkOutlineMan (Post 11383671)
I thought the hyperbole of love for Trish was ridiculous. I think the revulsion many are now feeling for Trish is a cross-pollination of sorts between the dislike her detractors had for her self-righteousness during her time in the house, and also now her former fans' dislike for her evident hypocrisy.

Yeah agree and a lot of it is genuine disappointment which people are entitled to feel

If it had just been a couple of tweets from a decade ago that's one thing, but numerous tweets over several years targeting various different groups is pretty difficult to justify. She was older than Tom is now when she posted every one of them

thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ChalkOutlineMan (Post 11383671)
I thought the hyperbole of love for Trish was ridiculous. I think the revulsion many are now feeling for Trish is a cross-pollination of sorts between the dislike her detractors had for her self-righteousness during her time in the house, and also now her former fans' dislike for her evident hypocrisy.

I agree for the most part. I love your display picture btw. “Oooh, where’s my autograph book?!”

thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11383702)
Yeah agree and a lot of it is genuine disappointment which people are entitled to feel

If it had just been a couple of tweets from a decade ago that's one thing, but numerous tweets over several years targeting various different groups is pretty difficult to justify. She was older than Tom is now when she posted every one of them

… but “she was 22”, so apparently it’s ok.

Yeah, some fans will feel duped.

Swan 12-11-2023 11:08 AM

Well she was 29 when she posted -

"is there a word like coon for the LGBT Community"

But yeah, carrying on using she was young argument.

Zizu 12-11-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by thom_bombadil (Post 11383700)
Ok, and if that turns out to be the case, then we can all go from there. However, based on what’s been discovered, I don’t think anyone should be trying to explain away Trish’s wrongdoing.

I think she’s clearly changed her views since she posted the tweets, but she still did it (as far as we know).


You don’t think it’s right for anyone to try and explain her wrong doing ?

We don’t know for sure if they were her
Tweets .. Twitter accounts get hacked all the time


It’s just so odd that as soon as she made the account public after leaving the house- then suddenly all these disgraceful tweets surfaced - then she made the account PRIVATE again but didn’t delete or edit the offensive Tweets and now it’s public again .


Seems convenient that the tweets surfacing are aimed at Chinese ( Yinrun) and Asian ( Farida) and the disabled ( Kerry and Dylan)


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Hacking a Twitter account ??

“It is incredibly easy to do, it takes zero technical skill and it has a high success rate,” said Ryan Purita, forensic examiner and security specialist with Vancouver’s Sherlock Forensics.

“ For the average Joe, it might be impossible to do, but for the average 14-year-old who lives on the Internet, it’s easy.”


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thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11383706)
Well she was 29 when she posted -

"is there a word like coon for the LGBT Community"

But yeah, carrying on using she was young argument.

Jesus. I’m trying to maintain respect for those with differing views on this subject, but…

thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383709)
You don’t think it’s right for anyone to try and explain her wrong doing ?

We don’t know for sure if they were her
Tweets .. Twitter accounts get hacked all the time


It’s just so odd that as soon as she made the account public after leaving the house- then suddenly all these disgraceful tweets surfaced - then she made the account PRIVATE again but didn’t delete or edit the offensive Tweets and now it’s public again .


Seems convenient that the tweets surfacing are aimed at Chinese ( Yinrun) and Asian ( Farida) and the disabled ( Kerry and Dylan)


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Hacking a Twitter account ??

“It is incredibly easy to do, it takes zero technical skill and it has a high success rate,” said Ryan Purita, forensic examiner and security specialist with Vancouver’s Sherlock Forensics.

“ For the average Joe, it might be impossible to do, but for the average 14-year-old who lives on the Internet, it’s easy.”


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So… you’re saying someone went back in time, hacked into the account and posted tweets in 2012?

Zizu 12-11-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by thom_bombadil (Post 11383712)
So… you’re saying someone went back in time, hacked into the account and posted tweets in 2012?


I have no idea what a hacker is capable of .

Do you ?


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Jessica. 12-11-2023 11:19 AM

The antisemetic tweets are from only six months ago.

GlitterUK 12-11-2023 11:22 AM

I think if they were current tweets or tweets whilst she was in the house then yes someone else could have had access but as they date from 2012 if someone else wrote them and she disagreed surely she would delete them?

Have ITV made an official statement yet?

Swan 12-11-2023 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 11383670)
No it isn't. The brain is adolescent until 25, that's a fact, wether you like it or not

I just wanna point out, maybe not you, but others, certainly on here, were saying "yeah well it's legal" (technically they're right) when Phil Scoff shagged that 16 year old boy. However, when it suits them, it's "yeah well Trish was young, she was in her 20's, she was still a kid"

Literally, not just one or two tweets from her, but consistent tweets over the years, she goes after -

"coons"
Asians (all Asians, not limited geographically)
Jews
Disabled
LGBT
A couple of token tweets aimed towards whites (but no one will care about that, it's en vogue, hey there's a member on here openly racist towards the whities, all good)

Some are as recent as last year too.

She was my favourite, now i just see her as scum.

thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383713)
I have no idea what a hacker is capable of .

Do you ?


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You can only edit tweets within one hour of posting and they have a time / edit stamp on them. Hacking into an account is totally different than hacking the Twitter mainframe and tampering with coding…

Anyway, back to the topic. So far, all we know is that Trish is supposed to have posted inappropriate tweets. If it turns out it wasn’t her, then fair enough. However, this discussion is not about that, and no one should be justifying it. So yeah, I stand by what I said.

thom_bombadil 12-11-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11383717)
I just wanna point out, maybe not you, but others, certainly on here, were saying "yeah well it's legal" (technically they're right) when Phil Scoff shagged that 16 year old boy. However, when it suits them, it's "yeah well Trish was young, she was in her 20's, she was still a kid"

Literally, not just one or two tweets from her, but consistent tweets over the years, she goes after -

"coons"
Asians (all Asians, not limited geographically)
Jews
Disabled
LGBT
A couple of token tweets aimed towards whites (but no one will care about that, it's en vogue, hey there's a member on here openly racist towards the whities, all good)

Some are as recent as last year too.

She was my favourite, now i just see her as scum.

Yes, if it was her then she should apologise. I agree that racism towards white people should also be taken seriously. We’re not going to move forward effectively as a society if we play down bigotry of any kind.

Zizu 12-11-2023 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11383716)
I think if they were current tweets or tweets whilst she was in the house then yes someone else could have had access but as they date from 2012 if someone else wrote them and she disagreed surely she would delete them?

Have ITV made an official statement yet?


Maybe the account was hacked and the offending tweets were added / inserted randomly …

I have no idea what hackers are capable of but if they can hack into an account it can’t be that more more difficult to put a load of offensive tweets in at whatever date they choose ?


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Cherie 12-11-2023 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383723)
Maybe the account was hacked and the offending tweets were added / inserted randomly …

I have no idea what hackers are capable of but if they can hack into an account it can’t be that more more difficult to put a load of offensive tweets in at whatever date they choose ?


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If you only deal in facts Zizu I have seen some comments from you calling Olivia a slapper, where are the facts on that?

rusticgal 12-11-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11383625)
You would think before hand BB check social medias accounts, then again I guess it is more publicity when things like this are found.
Has she apologised?


You would have thought checks would have been done...didnt someone get kicked out of the BB house because of Social Media comments that emerged during their time in there??.

Dogeatdog 12-11-2023 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 11383669)
Nah sorry, somebody in their 20s doesn't get the "they were too young to know better" excuse

Now she could address this and apologize but so far she's not said a word so nobody owes her grace or forgiveness that she's not even seeking

This for me 100%

GlitterUK 12-11-2023 11:42 AM

ITV need to find whoever found them and hire them for the job of checking the next contestants.
ITV may have told her to say nothing to have her apologise on the show for viewing figures.

Ammi 12-11-2023 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11383739)
ITV need to find whoever found them and hire them for the job of checking the next contestants.
ITV may have told her to say nothing to have her apologise on the show for viewing figures.

…yeah, I felt this too…that Trish might be ‘under advisement’ from BB not to make any type of statement of addressing anything because she may be getting a platform on the Late show for that…but tbh, I personally don’t think it would be just for ‘viewing figures’ …I think that ‘damage limitation’ would factor in as well in terms of the social media checks that can’t have been done very throughly but we’re pledged …and also in preservation of the future of BB in their care….not a good look for them either….

Zizu 12-11-2023 11:55 AM

The HYPERBOLE OF HATE for Trish is hilarious
 
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11383728)
If you only deal in facts Zizu I have seen some comments from you calling Olivia a slapper, where are the facts on that?


I explained that a while back

I’d seen that nickname banded about this very forum and just ran with it ..given she was being obnoxious at the time and

I wasn’t feeling particularly charitable towards her

That said , I’d hardly describe her as demure

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Zizu 12-11-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11383728)
If you only deal in facts Zizu I have seen some comments from you calling Olivia a slapper, where are the facts on that?


We may have different definitions of Slapper


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Kazanne 12-11-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 11383669)
Nah sorry, somebody in their 20s doesn't get the "they were too young to know better" excuse

Now she could address this and apologize but so far she's not said a word so nobody owes her grace or forgiveness that she's not even seeking

I agree. IF this had been someone people didnt like they would be on it like flies round shite and there would be no excuses , nor should there be.

Zizu 12-11-2023 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11383752)
I agree. IF this had been someone people didnt like they would be on it like flies round shite and there would be no excuses , nor should there be.


It works both ways .. loads of negative posts in this thread come from Trish haters who are questionable themselves but simply jumped on the bandwagon


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GoldHeart 12-11-2023 12:09 PM

Yet Katie Hopkins spouts whatever she wants and still has support.

Beso 12-11-2023 12:10 PM

Its fantastic, I was all sombre remembering our fallen, but Trish and her supporters just keep on giving.

The real Facebook moms have been revealed.

GoldHeart 12-11-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383767)
It works both ways .. loads of negative posts in this thread come from Trish haters who are questionable themselves but simply jumped on the bandwagon


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Remember Jim Davidson, Katie Hopkins who were both favourites and both got to the final and the other actually won BB.

Saskia BB6 was openly racist in her VT , even Ziggy got a warning in BB8 for using the N word.

Kazanne 12-11-2023 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383767)
It works both ways .. loads of negative posts in this thread come from Trish haters who are questionable themselves but simply jumped on the bandwagon


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I like her always have done, just saying sometimes there are double standards with housemates.

Cherie 12-11-2023 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11383748)
We may have different definitions of Slapper


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Thanks for the explanation, yes I do :laugh:

OnTheRight 12-11-2023 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elliebrew (Post 11383617)
Our brains don't stop developing until were 25 years old. The prefrontal cortex performs reasoning, planning, judgment, and impulse control, necessities for being an adult. Without the fully development prefrontal cortex, a person might make poor decisions and lack the inability to discern whether a situation is safe. Younger adults tend to experiment with risky behavior and don’t fully recognize the consequences of their choices.

Adolescent brains are vastly different to fully grown and developed ones. The rational part of a teen's brain isn't fully developed and behaviors experienced in late adolescence and early adulthood do not inform the way we will always think

Im certain she regrets things she's said. Like we all have. It was ill informed and stupid and immature. Get some perspective, the hyperbole of hate is ridiculous

Imagine hating a racist.

GlitterUK 12-11-2023 01:06 PM

Guess we shall find out on tonight's show what the truth is.

I imagine ITV and Trish's agent are working overtime right now.

Beso 12-11-2023 01:45 PM

Nothing wrong with slappers .

ebandit 12-11-2023 02:14 PM

bless trish fans......................but still doing mental gymnastics excusing the actions of trish.............

Mark L

caprimint 12-11-2023 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11383783)
I like her always have done, just saying sometimes there are double standards with housemates.

Always, these same people can't wait to jump on one dodgy 10 year old tweet by a housemate they don't like, but can make excuses for about 30 disgusting ones including some just from the past few years

Just imagine if this was Paul right now...

GoldHeart 12-11-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 11384011)
Always, these same people can't wait to jump on one dodgy 10 year old tweet by a housemate they don't like, but can make excuses for about 30 disgusting ones including some just from the past few years

Just imagine if this was Paul right now...

They'd still be excuses made for Paul and you know it , I can see it now " aww he didn't mean it " or " he's a bit of a d1ck but he made a mistake"

:idc:

caprimint 12-11-2023 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11384026)
They'd still be excuses made for Paul and you know it , I can see it now " aww he didn't mean it " or " he's a bit of a d1ck but he made a mistake"

:idc:

Absolutely not :joker: Not by those very same people who are forgiving of Trish at least

I'd like to think that we don't judge people on their 10 year old tweets no matter how old somebody is (unfortunately people do though, especially towards those they already dislike) but it is kind of difficult seeing that her tweets from this year include that sort of stuff too


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